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microfib4thewin wrote:Kobe is already showing decline in his jumping ability. We've already seen first hand what it could mean in the OKC series.
NYK 455 wrote:People are seriously putting Kobe in front of Duncan, Shaq, and now Bird. Wow. Dude has only one ring as a first option and people are saying this? Incredible. I guess Pippen>Kobe.
Dez Bryant wrote:NYK 455 wrote:People are seriously putting Kobe in front of Duncan, Shaq, and now Bird. Wow. Dude has only one ring as a first option and people are saying this? Incredible. I guess Pippen>Kobe.
u sound like a dude that didn't watch the lakers.
KOBE was the first option, especially in the 4th quarter because shaq couldn't be trusted at the line.
KOBE never showed up out of shape, nor did he decide to take 6 weeks off like Shaq and his fat toe did.
Kobe has as many rings as Duncan, Larry Bird is insanely overrated. His lack of dedication is why his career suddenly hit the crapper, because all Larry did was get drunk every night and eat junk food. if he was as dedicated as Kobe Bird may be top 5. Plus Magic beat the c's without Kareem, thus Magic top 5 and Bird and KAJ below him
Dez Bryant wrote:u sound like a dude that didn't watch the lakers.
KOBE was the first option, especially in the 4th quarter because shaq couldn't be trusted at the line.
KOBE never showed up out of shape, nor did he decide to take 6 weeks off like Shaq and his fat toe did.
Kobe has as many rings as Duncan, Larry Bird is insanely overrated. His lack of dedication is why his career suddenly hit the crapper, because all Larry did was get drunk every night and eat junk food. if he was as dedicated as Kobe Bird may be top 5. Plus Magic beat the c's without Kareem, thus Magic top 5 and Bird and KAJ below him
richboy wrote:
I could never say that about KG. Even though he is a great player. In some way even in his prime he is Joakim Noah with a jump shot and a little better post game. Outside of that they have the exact same skill set.
NYK 455 wrote:Dez Bryant wrote:NYK 455 wrote:People are seriously putting Kobe in front of Duncan, Shaq, and now Bird. Wow. Dude has only one ring as a first option and people are saying this? Incredible. I guess Pippen>Kobe.
u sound like a dude that didn't watch the lakers.
KOBE was the first option, especially in the 4th quarter because shaq couldn't be trusted at the line.
KOBE never showed up out of shape, nor did he decide to take 6 weeks off like Shaq and his fat toe did.
Kobe has as many rings as Duncan, Larry Bird is insanely overrated. His lack of dedication is why his career suddenly hit the crapper, because all Larry did was get drunk every night and eat junk food. if he was as dedicated as Kobe Bird may be top 5. Plus Magic beat the c's without Kareem, thus Magic top 5 and Bird and KAJ below him
lmao at the whole damn post. Wow. Kobe has many rings as Duncan, that's true. But Pippen has more than Kobe, so I guess Pippen>Kobe and Duncan.
NYK 455 wrote:The criteria keeps changing, just to keep Kobe on top. lol. The reason most rank Kobe over Pippen is the same reason why most rank Shaq and Duncan higher than Kobe. They were better and meant more to their team. Kobe wasn't equal to Shaq, people need to stop that nonsense.
NYK 455 wrote:The criteria keeps changing, just to keep Kobe on top. lol. The reason most rank Kobe over Pippen is the same reason why most rank Shaq and Duncan higher than Kobe. They were better and meant more to their team. Kobe wasn't equal to Shaq, people need to stop that nonsense.
SDChargers#1 wrote:NYK 455 wrote:The criteria keeps changing, just to keep Kobe on top. lol. The reason most rank Kobe over Pippen is the same reason why most rank Shaq and Duncan higher than Kobe. They were better and meant more to their team. Kobe wasn't equal to Shaq, people need to stop that nonsense.
The criteria hasn't changed at all. The difference is that Kobe has continued to add to his legacy over the past 3 seasons (and more to come) while Shaq hasn't added anything. So Kobe is getting closer and closer. I personally feel a championship this is what puts Kobe ahead.
lakErfrOmManiLa wrote:If Kobe wins another one then:
1. Jordan
2. Wilt
3. Kareem
4. Russel
5. Magic
6. Bird/Kobe
7.Duncan/Shaq
8. Hakeem
If Kobe wins 2 more then:
1.Jordan
2. Wilt/Kareem/Russel
3. Kobe
4. Magic
5. Bird
6. Duncan/Shaq
7. Hakeem
If Kobe wins 3 more then:
1. Jordan
2. Kobe
3. Wilt
4. Kareem
5. Russel
6. Magic
7. Bird
8. Duncan
9. Shaq
10. Hakeem
kobethegoat wrote:lakErfrOmManiLa wrote:If Kobe wins another one then:
1. Jordan
2. Wilt
3. Kareem
4. Russel
5. Magic
6. Bird/Kobe
7.Duncan/Shaq
8. Hakeem
If Kobe wins 2 more then:
1.Jordan
2. Wilt/Kareem/Russel
3. Kobe
4. Magic
5. Bird
6. Duncan/Shaq
7. Hakeem
If Kobe wins 3 more then:
1. Jordan
2. Kobe
3. Wilt
4. Kareem
5. Russel
6. Magic
7. Bird
8. Duncan
9. Shaq
10. Hakeem
Good summary but Id say
Win this year = Top 5 all time
2 more titles = Only behind Jordan
3 more titles = GOAT
4 or more = eternal GOAT
Asianiac_24 wrote:For Kobe to have a case for the GOAT, he has to win about 8 rings total with at least 4 Finals MVPs. Even then I'm not so sure I'd have Kobe over MJ, simply due to MJ being the much better player than Kobe.