Is Kobe a top 15 all-time player?

[One_and_Done]

He's easily top ten TBH.

Top 15 peak OAT/best player in the world st his best.

Insane longevity.

Best postseason/player on the best postseason team of all-time/clear 1a/1b on a top five team in history.

Far and away the best player on a top ten all-time team (09 Lakers)

GOAT level offensive impact at his offensive peak

Legit All-Defensive level guard for a fair amount of seasons and one of the best perimeter defenders in the league at his defensive peak (01)

The most clutch player of the 2000's or at least in the argument

Elite impact

Far and away the best player on teams that made three straight Finals appearances won back-to-back titles

Five titles and seven Finals appearances while playing better playoff comp than any player in modern history

More All-NBA selections than all but one player in history

More All-NBA 1st team selections than all but player one player in history

Top ten offensive player OAT by peak and career

Etc, etc

Insane player.

Some of these metrics are poor measures of impact imo, and/or dubious. The 2009 Lakers certainly weren't an all-time team for eg. I can't see any case for top 10. I'm not even sure he's the 10th best player since he was drafted.

[SpreeS]

Kobe/West/Oscar/Curry would be crazy debate for me.

[MyUniBroDavis]

How are there 90 votes when there are like 25 users on this forum

[One_and_Done]

I used the magic word

[Salieri]

How are there 90 votes when there are like 25 users on this forum

Some of us lurk and read, but very rarely post.

[MyUniBroDavis]

How are there 90 votes when there are like 25 users on this forum

Some of us lurk and read, but very rarely post.

The PC board has really become a comedy with some of the takes nowadays rip

[One_and_Done]

How are there 90 votes when there are like 25 users on this forum

Some of us lurk and read, but very rarely post.

The PC board has really become a comedy with some of the takes nowadays rip

I think it's a fair take tbh.

[ardee]

There are posters in here, who frankly, shouldn't be allowed to post in threads about Kobe, just like trolls in the LeBron thread were told to lay off. It's the real lack of decency for me.

[The Explorer]

Not only is he top 15 but he's in the top 7 for me.

[EmpireFalls]

Yes and he’s borderline top 10.

[Joao Saraiva]

Still top 10 for me.

And no, KD is not even close. Kobe proved to be one of the best players in the NBA for long enough. He worked as a 2nd option, and as a 1a and 1b option. He worked as the leader to win b2b championships.

He was very consistent, he didn't drop production often in the playoffs.

[Jaivl]

Is Bird?

[Fundamentals21]

He's top 10ish for me as well.... a consistent, successful career that became tough to question.

[tsherkin]

Somewhere in that 12-15 range seems pretty appropriate to me.