Is There a Single Bulls Fan on Here Who Says D.Will > Rose?

[Tubal]

It depends on where you place your value. Rose could probably beat Deron in a 1 on 1 game, but Deron could probably beat Rose in a 5 on 5 game.

Doubtful, since Rose smothered Deron head to head both times last year. The first time resulting in a huge locker blow up vs his coach, after which Sloan quit, and Deron was subsequently traded.

Uhm... an ECF bulls team smothered a 39-43 Jazz team and a 24-58 Nets team. Really? Shocking. I'm sure it was 100% because of Rose and Deron.

Give Deron and Rose the same 4 guys, put them head to head, I bet Deron's team wins more often than not.

I'm still shocked you're a mod.

[Rerisen]

Uhm... an ECF bulls team smothered a 39-43 Jazz team and a 24-58 Nets team. Really? Shocking. I'm sure it was 100% because of Rose and Deron.

I didn't say anything about which team won. The Bulls won the games because they were a better team.

But Deron struggled individually because Rose shut him down head to head. He looked lost and like he wanted to quit. Rose did the same thing to Paul, he gets up for big matchups.

There was some talk Deron was playing hurt at the end of the year, so maybe there is some hope for his 1-12 performance there, we'll see how it goes next year.

BTW, the Jazz were 31-23 when the Bulls played them, hardly a bad team.

Think your 'same 4 players assessment' is wrong too, obivously. It took Rose scoring 27.5 to get by the Pacers, and averaging 30 PPG to get by the Hawks, as Boozer was playing hurt and very ineffective. The Bulls effectively had no 2nd option. Deron doesn't have that kind of takeover scoring ability, especially with a whole defense geared at him.

If a team already has a Durant, Kobe, LeBron, then yeah, I'd take Deron then. But most teams aren't gifted with two legitimate franchise players, give me Rose if the choice is going to be your best player.

[bullsnewdynasty]

Bulls fans have been calling for something like this for about a year, since Gordon left. The team needs someone who can handle the ball a little and hit an open jumper to play next to Rose. A lot of us feel strongly that a guard that complements Rose (even if he isn't a superstar) would really help the offense overall and help Rose personally.

You're essentially describing Kirk Hinrich, who was a bad fit next to Rose. What Rose actually needs is a reliable 3 point threat and a guy that can create his own shot, not just a guy that can dribble.

[ChiCitySPORTS#1]

Bulls fans have been calling for something like this for about a year, since Gordon left. The team needs someone who can handle the ball a little and hit an open jumper to play next to Rose. A lot of us feel strongly that a guard that complements Rose (even if he isn't a superstar) would really help the offense overall and help Rose personally.

You're essentially describing Kirk Hinrich, who was a bad fit next to Rose. What Rose actually needs is a reliable 3 point threat and a guy that can create his own shot, not just a guy that can dribble.

He wasnt a bad fit, he just wasnt really good that season. His shooting was pretty bad. If Kirk could get his 3-ball back he'd seriously be perfect.

[Jvaughn]

Bulls fans have been calling for something like this for about a year, since Gordon left. The team needs someone who can handle the ball a little and hit an open jumper to play next to Rose. A lot of us feel strongly that a guard that complements Rose (even if he isn't a superstar) would really help the offense overall and help Rose personally.

You're essentially describing Kirk Hinrich, who was a bad fit next to Rose. What Rose actually needs is a reliable 3 point threat and a guy that can create his own shot, not just a guy that can dribble.

He wasnt a bad fit, he just wasnt really good that season. His shooting was pretty bad. If Kirk could get his 3-ball back he'd seriously be perfect.

Except for the fact that he deterred from the offense every time he touched the ball (resetting) and that his defense is not ideal for a starting SG. He's not that good of a defender anymore, and he gets to skate by on reputation. I wouldn't want Kirk on the team in any capacity outside of backup PG and spot minute SG.

[bullsnewdynasty]

He wasnt a bad fit, he just wasnt really good that season. His shooting was pretty bad.

You could say this for essentially any season since his contract year.

If Kirk could get his 3-ball back he'd seriously be perfect.

He still can't create his own shot and doesn't show up in the 4th quarter, so no, he wouldn't. Unless you're talking about him as a backup.