Moving forward, best pg in the East?
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Lowry was pretty clearly better than the others last year, Wall being second. I think the gap between them narrows, nothing else.
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Leaving rondo, deron and rose out since it remains to be seen (obviously moreso for rose) what they'll be like next season. Probably between wall and lowry, although i'm really intrigued by what kyrie's capable of playing with lebron.
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TheKingOfVa360 wrote:John Wall then Lowry then Rose, Rondo and Irving
Rose, Rondo, and Irving are better than Lowry. A contract year doesn't change that.
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DK-All Day wrote:TheKingOfVa360 wrote:John Wall then Lowry then Rose, Rondo and Irving
Rose, Rondo, and Irving are better than Lowry. A contract year doesn't change that.
I agree that a healthy Rose and Rondo are better but who knows what version will show up? Irving isn't better because he's a horrible defender and doesn't win.
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DK-All Day wrote:TheKingOfVa360 wrote:John Wall then Lowry then Rose, Rondo and Irving
Rose, Rondo, and Irving are better than Lowry. A contract year doesn't change that.
You speak as if Lowry has been a scrub his whole career.
Hes averaged about 14ppg/4rpg/6apg/1.5 spg for the past 4 seasons on about 38%+ from 3.
His PER has been on the rise for the past 4 seasons (exception when he was splitting PG duties with Calderon)
He is good for 55ts% which is in the same ball park as Irving and better than anything Rose or Rondo ever posted.
He is the best defender out of Rose Rondo Irving (dont see Rondo returning to pre injury defensive prowess)
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Before last year thought Wall was grossly over-rated like Irving but he showed he was a big time PG with his play last year.
Basically ties Wall/Lowry with maybe a miniscule edge to Lowry better defense.
Jeff Teague 3rd totally under-rated playing for Atlanta has great skills
Irving by default he is a one dimensional scorer
Rondo because his game was never built on speed and is still the best passer in the game but his defense will suffer.
Rose sorry even if healthy will never be the same and in Thibs. no holds barred system will have a injury again
Basically ties Wall/Lowry with maybe a miniscule edge to Lowry better defense.
Jeff Teague 3rd totally under-rated playing for Atlanta has great skills
Irving by default he is a one dimensional scorer
Rondo because his game was never built on speed and is still the best passer in the game but his defense will suffer.
Rose sorry even if healthy will never be the same and in Thibs. no holds barred system will have a injury again
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Curry just had a season with similar numbers. Wall could do it if he learns to be more consistent. But truth be told, I think Rose might retain his title as best PG in the East by the end of the season
Unless Wall gets a more consistent jumper, 25 PPG is absolutely out of question for him. But he'll probably be the best PG of the East for the near future.
I don't think Rose will ever become the player he once was.
Rondo is an outsider at this point.
Kyrie has a long ways to go.
Lowry doesn't have much room for improvement IMO. Stat-wise, at least.
MCW will be good, but I don't think he has star potential.
Others like Kemba, Teague, Jennings or Knight are not in Wall's league (though I like the first two).
Who knows how Payton will end up.
D-Will is on the downside of his career, and has lost a step.
Not sure if I'm missing someone.
Wall's mid range shot is pretty consistent. The only problem he has right now is that takes to many jumpers rather than driving. Part of that is coaching, but he needs to drive more. I think he could peak at 25 ppg
Wall's mid range is exceptionally consistent. Consistently poor that is.
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Dont sleep on jeff Teague. He had 10 double digit assist games in 29 games with horford last year. He only had 3 for the rest of the season after horford went down. The pick and roll/pop tandem of teague/horford is deadly and teague will be in the conversation if he can finally become consistent this season.
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