Is Steph Curry a top-5 player right now?

Quake Griffin · Post #41 » by **Quake Griffin** » Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:35 pm

he's in a dead heat for fifth with Russell and maybe Cousins.

LBJ
KD
AD
CP3

are all better.

cpower · Post #42 » by **cpower** » Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:05 pm

Quake Griffin wrote:he's in a dead heat for fifth with Russell and maybe Cousins.

LBJ
KD
AD
CP3

are all better.

from all the players you listed, only Bill Russell is clearly better.

Onus · Post #43 » by **Onus** » Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:16 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
Onus wrote:27/8/6/2.5stl per 36 this year with a 63%TS that's prime Lebron type numbers

His team is tied for 3rd best record in the NBA. I'd say he has a good chance at MVP this year.

I really hate when people do this. Just use their stats, don't post their per 36.

Also, Russ was the consensus better player during the offseason, when he comes back, we will see how this stands up.

I added his real numbers 25/8/6/2 stl in 33 minutes to the OP to placate you.

GSP · Post #44 » by **GSP** » Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:18 pm

Laimbeer wrote:Do we count Durant while he's out? I'd put him, LeBron, Davis and Howard over him. Then you have to consider what Cousins is doing and the fact you would have a few guys with claim as the best point. So it's doubtful for me.

What makes Dwight better than Marc or Cousins?

Quake Griffin · Post #45 » by **Quake Griffin** » Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:29 pm

cpower wrote:
Quake Griffin wrote:he's in a dead heat for fifth with Russell and maybe Cousins.

LBJ
KD
AD
CP3

are all better.

from all the players you listed, only Bill Russell is clearly better.

clearly?

rule of real gm...if you like a cat, say that the other player who you think is better is not "clearly" better or "arguably" better.

who cares about clearly or arguably.
make a choice.

Biddy77 · Post #46 » by **Biddy77** » Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:45 pm

bruh wrote:The Warriors fans here have done a good job convincing people he's not bad on defense

He's not bad... Anymore. When he came into the league, he got worked over badly. Drtg was 111 as a rookie (as was Westbrook's), 112 as a soph. It has been going down steadily since then, and he's actually got a 2.1 DBPM, 96 (!!!) Drtg, and respectable opponent PER this year (production per 48 against him is 18.2).

This season is a very small sample size, but the trend over his career is very positive. He has improved every season, and is defending very well to start this year.

E-Balla · Post #47 » by **E-Balla** » Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:24 pm

cpower wrote:
Quake Griffin wrote:he's in a dead heat for fifth with Russell and maybe Cousins.

LBJ
KD
AD
CP3

are all better.

from all the players you listed, only Bill Russell is clearly better.

I laughed.

E-Balla · Post #48 » by **E-Balla** » Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:26 pm

Biddy77 wrote:
bruh wrote:The Warriors fans here have done a good job convincing people he's not bad on defense

He's not bad... Anymore. When he came into the league, he got worked over badly. Drtg was 111 as a rookie (as was Westbrook's), 112 as a soph. It has been going down steadily since then, and he's actually got a 2.1 DBPM, 96 (!!!) Drtg, and respectable opponent PER this year (production per 48 against him is 18.2).

This season is a very small sample size, but the trend over his career is very positive. He has improved every season, and is defending very well to start this year.

DRTG is a team stat and the average PER is a 15 so a 18.2 isn't respectable. Small sample size tho.

JimmyTD3 · Post #49 » by **JimmyTD3** » Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:56 pm

Yes he is

DontH8TheBrody · Post #50 » by **DontH8TheBrody** » Wed Nov 19, 2014 7:12 pm

All I am saying is, put stats aside. I am taking Westbrook everytime over Curry if I am trying to win a championship. Let's see Curry try and guard Westbrook in the playoffs this year.

Onus · Post #51 » by **Onus** » Wed Nov 19, 2014 7:22 pm

DontH8TheBrody wrote:All I am saying is, put stats aside. I am taking Westbrook everytime over Curry if I am trying to win a championship. Let's see Curry try and guard Westbrook in the playoffs this year.

Have you taken a look at the h2h matchups?

Sebastian · Post #52 » by **Sebastian** » Wed Nov 19, 2014 7:27 pm

He's not in the first tier (LBJ/Durant/AD) but he's probably at the top of the second tier, ahead of guys like Dwight, Harden, CP3, DMC, healthy Russ (maybe), healthy Rose (maybe), Dirk (maybe), and Lillard (maybe).

So top 5 sounds right.

Colbinii · Post #53 » by **Colbinii** » Wed Nov 19, 2014 7:32 pm

He is definitely top 5.

Witzig-Okashi · Post #54 » by **Witzig-Okashi** » Wed Nov 19, 2014 7:36 pm

Some folks are overrating Westbrook's defense. He may be a more "intense" defender, but he gambles for steals a lot, and he's not always successful. Curry does it, too, just not to the extent the Westbrook does, IMO...

If Westbrook has an edge on the defensive end, it isn't by much at all....

Mourning_Would · Post #55 » by **Mourning_Would** » Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:18 pm

This Klay is better than Steph narrative needs to die. Curry scores more, more consistently and more efficiently, while being the better passer, all while drawing more attention than anybody in the league offensively when he's off the ball, and is constantly trapped when he has it. Not to mention handles, floaters, shot creating etc...

Klay has improved, and his defense is pretty good, but Curry's defense is at least average, and he has the IQ and quick hands to get a lot of steals.

JimmyTD3 · Post #56 » by **JimmyTD3** » Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:22 pm

Mourning_Would wrote:This Klay is better than Steph narrative needs to die.

Dont think its a narrative aside from one or two knuckleheads.

Its clear as day that Steph is a better player than Klay

Mourning_Would · Post #57 » by **Mourning_Would** » Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:54 pm

Stringcheese wrote:
Mourning_Would wrote:This Klay is better than Steph narrative needs to die.

Dont think its a narrative aside from one or two knuckleheads.

Its clear as day that Steph is a better player than Klay

Wouldn't be so sure. Pretty sure I saw Ric Puker claiming this, and he's paid to watch the Warriors! :crazy:

Greatness · Post #58 » by **Greatness** » Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:16 pm

Mourning_Would wrote:
Stringcheese wrote:
Mourning_Would wrote:This Klay is better than Steph narrative needs to die.

Dont think its a narrative aside from one or two knuckleheads.

Its clear as day that Steph is a better player than Klay

Wouldn't be so sure. Pretty sure I saw Ric Puker claiming this, and he's paid to watch the Warriors!

He also would take Rose over LeBron to start a franchise, so he clearly is an idiot.

Greatness · Post #59 » by **Greatness** » Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:17 pm

To answer the question, I think he's 4th behind LeBron, Durant, and CP3. Yes I don't have Davis up there yet but he's quickly climbing the ladder.

Dubeta · Post #60 » by **Dubeta** » Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:28 pm

its very close.
Melo
Lebron
Westbrook
davis
Durant.

cp3
Curry
harden
ibaka
griffin

These are the tiers i have for them.