All-Time Fantasy Draft With FGA Limit - Meta Thread

[Dr Spaceman]

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[wojoaderge]

If you could only have one prime time defender in your starting frontcourt, would you have him be a F or C?

[wojoaderge]

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Sorry, got my late 70's Cavs guards mixed up

[eminence]

If you could only have one prime time defender in your starting frontcourt, would you have him be a F or C?

Only one? Probably at center.

[Quotatious]

If you could only have one prime time defender in your starting frontcourt, would you have him be a F or C?

Only one? Probably at center.

I would say it depends whether that guy is more of a SF/PF (like Rodman) or PF/C (like Duncan). As a rule, I would always take a tweener big over tweener forward, if we are talking about defense, though (assuming they are comparable in terms of ability). So, basically my answer is center.

[wojoaderge]

If you could only have one prime time defender in your starting frontcourt, would you have him be a F or C?

Only one? Probably at center.

I would say it depends whether that guy is more of a SF/PF (like Rodman) or PF/C (like Duncan). As a rule, I would always take a tweener big over tweener forward, though (assuming they are comparable in terms of ability). So, basically my answer is center.

How about between an aircraft carrier and a tweener F?

[wojoaderge]

By "aircraft carrier" I mean a big center who can only play the 5

[Statlanta]

My pick is a GOAT shooter(moderate volume) going with '15 Kyle Korver with my pick

[Texas Chuck]

My pick is a GOAT shooter(moderate volume) going with '15 Kyle Korver with my pick

One of the guys I thought might be gone before this point. Very good value imo here.

[Hawk Eye]

My pick is a GOAT shooter(moderate volume) going with '15 Kyle Korver with my pick

One of the guys I thought might be gone before this point. Very good value imo here.

Couldn't agree more. Honestly thought he would go much higher than here. Excellent pick. Elite role player with low FGA but super high efficiency. His shooting stats last season were just ridiculously good.

[Texas Chuck]

By "aircraft carrier" I mean a big center who can only play the 5

So like Mark Eaton or Deke or Gilmore?

I mean David Robinson and Bill Russell only played center during their careers and I consider them to be the 2 best defensive players of all-time. And I think offensively both guys are definitely centers exclusively, but both guys could play PF on defense I'd think---heck we know Admiral guarded some key 4's after Duncan's arrival.

But yeah I'd take the best true centers defensively over guys like KG, Draymond, or Sheed. Maybe the game continues to evolve to the point where that pendulum switches, but looking back historically I think the best team defenses tend to be led by more traditional rim protectors rather than more horizontal bigs.

[Statlanta]

Hakeem relied on lethal 3pt shooting in his peak so why not get the best player at that particular job not to mention in an offense run be the all-time assist leader.

[MisterHibachi]

Hmm, Rodman might muck up your spacing though.

[MisterHibachi]

With my fourth pick I'm picking 2009 Ray Allen (13.2 FGAs)

Offensively he was uber efficient from every spot on the floor, had 48/41/95 shooting splits, was an above average defender, and was a first option in a low volume role. With Nash-Allen-*****-McHale-Walton I don't think anyone else could top my offensive firepower.

I was really surprised when Allen wasn't taken somewhere in the first 3 rounds. I'd definitely call him a steal.

I think there's a few sharpshooters I would've taken over him, including 15 Korver. If I hadn't taken Kobe, I would really be zeroing in on these shooting guards right now.

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[Statlanta]

Hmm, Rodman might muck up your spacing though.

My next pick will be the answer to that provided in 20 picks no one will consider him..

[Texas Chuck]

Hmm, Rodman might muck up your spacing though.

32% from 3 that year isn't great, but teams might honor it? But more importantly I guess you have to keep a body attached to him or he kills you on the offensive glass.

[theonlyclutch]

Hmm, Rodman might muck up your spacing though.

32% from 3 that year isn't great, but teams might honor it?

That is a big, big outlier from what Rodman usually hits from the perimeter in both volume and accuracy

[Texas Chuck]

Hmm, Rodman might muck up your spacing though.

32% from 3 that year isn't great, but teams might honor it?

That is a big, big outlier from what Rodman usually hits from the perimeter in both volume and accuracy

No doubt it is. But its not one of the shortened line years and he has Dream, Korver, and Stockton on the floor so he's getting all the wide open shots he wants. I think its not unreasonable in a game where you have to take a specific year to think he could at least match his real world percentage?

Of course if the rules state you aren't to judge them solely on this year, but on their career norms then ignore that line and stick to the part about the offensive rebounding which is really my main comment anyway. He's obviously not on the team as a spacer.

[AustinCarr61]

With the 55th Pick in the All Time Fantasy Draft, the Cleveland Cavaliers select:



Shane Battier, 2005-2006, 8.0 FGA/G
10.1 PTS @ 58.9 TS% (42% on 4.5 3PA/G), 4.1 TRB, 2.1 AST, 1.0 STL, 0.7 BLK, 119 Ortg, 102 Drtg, 12.0 PER, .144 WS/48, +3.3 BPM
10.3 PTS @ 66.0 TS% (44% on 6.1 3PA/G), 3.8 TRB, 2.1 AST, 1.7 STL, 1.0 BLK, 121 Ortg, 104 Drtg, 12.8 PER, .135 WS/48, +3.9 BPM

With two stars who don't really shoot threes, I knew I needed my role players to be strong in that area, as well as continuing the team themes of passing, defense and playoff performance. Battier brings all those qualities to the table as maybe the prototypical role player. In 2007 his DRAPM was +4.79, and while he didn't make an all-defensive team he made the 2nd team in each of the next two years - he was the perimeter stopper on those Rockets teams and guarded the best opposing perimeter player frequently. While he wasn't a shot creator, his high BBIQ allowed him to find the open man as a passer, and obviously his 3 point shooting was exceptional in this year both in terms of volume and percentage. Not the greatest rebounder, and obviously his box score metrics don't look that great (but he was never a box-score type player), but he was a great teammate (won the Twyman-Stokes in 2014) and exceptional glue guy, who will do exactly what is asked of him any given night. Between him, Wade and Duncan, my team won't lack for leadership for sure.

[Square]

Come on, Rodman shot 32/101 from three that one season. If he misses three more he's a 29% shooter. The previous year he went 6/30 and the following year he went 15/73, in similar situations. He was not a good or even average three point shooter.