Doctor MJ wrote:parsnips33 wrote:Peregrine01 wrote:
That's not on Vogel. This whole team was constructed based on Vibes Based Offense. KD, Booker and Beal are the poster-children for "how deep is your bag" and "we don't do double teams in the off-season". It's not a coincidence that they're on the same team together.
I mean I don't see why he shouldn't take at least some of the responsibility. He's been a head coach for a decade now, this is not rookie Steve Nash who has no clout and has to defer
Right but while Vogel should be "The Man" based on his coaching resume, we know this isn't the situation. If Vogel says "Either KD goes, or I do!", Vogel will get escorted by security out of the building...and everyone involved - coach & player - knows this.
Now, maybe Vogel can come up with something for the offense and get the proper buy in, but frankly that's not what he was hired to do. Ownership's expectation in making the moves they made was that the offense should be automatically elite and so you should hire a defensive coach.
It all makes total sense except that a collection of individual scorers may not actually lead to great team offense, and the defensive coach doesn't actually have the power to make these players grind on defense.
There's also the matter of these same problems showing up with the last big-three of iso-scorers KD was involved in. Vogel is a mixed bag as a coach(and I think Monty is better in a vacuum), but he's not the common denominator here.
Defensive coaching also only goes so far when the players in question lack the physical capability(some of that is age). Over-the-hill Nurkic is not going to anchor a good playoff defense with average personell. This team's prospects hinge on being capable of all-time offense, and thus far, they are not that. A large part of that is fit. Contrary to common perception, volume scoring, even with capable jump-shooters, does suffer diminishing returns when there are multiple players whose games are predominantly tied to high volume scoring.
