Stephen Curry(Clutch Player of the Year). Chris Paul, Dray, & Klay - 23-24 NBA Thread

TroubleS0me · Post #121 » by **TroubleS0me** » Wed Apr 10, 2024 2:33 pm

parsnips33 · Post #122 » by **parsnips33** » Wed Apr 10, 2024 4:11 pm

The most emphatic blocks I can remember seeing from the Warriors in a game

2 ridiculous game sealing ones at the end by Draymond and GPII on Hachimura, and TJD had a crazy one in the first half (also on Hachimura I think lol)

TroubleS0me · Post #123 » by **TroubleS0me** » Sat Apr 13, 2024 3:54 pm

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eminence · Post #125 » by **eminence** » Wed Apr 17, 2024 1:40 pm

Not mad at Kerr for saying that right now, but I'd hope the FO doesn't feel that strongly. If Klay wants to come back on a 2 year MLE or slightly above deal then go for it, but if he's still looking to get paid they really need to let him go.

Post #126 » by **tsherkin** » Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:18 pm

eminence wrote:Not mad at Kerr for saying that right now, but I'd hope the FO doesn't feel that strongly. If Klay wants to come back on a 2 year MLE or slightly above deal then go for it, but if he's still looking to get paid they really need to let him go.

Klay has been so bad. He has those one-off explosions when his shot is falling, but it's been 4 years since he was even marginally above league-average in efficiency, his defense is long-gone as a major factor and he's basically not contributing much besides his 3pt shooting.

eminence · Post #127 » by **eminence** » Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:26 pm

tsherkin wrote:
eminence wrote:Not mad at Kerr for saying that right now, but I'd hope the FO doesn't feel that strongly. If Klay wants to come back on a 2 year MLE or slightly above deal then go for it, but if he's still looking to get paid they really need to let him go.

Klay has been so bad. He has those one-off explosions when his shot is falling, but it's been 4 years since he was even marginally above league-average in efficiency, his defense is long-gone as a major factor and he's basically not contributing much besides his 3pt shooting.

Yeah, truthfully I think they'd be better off just letting him go and bringing in someone else on the MLE, but if he's willing to come back at that cost I don't mind it.

Just don't really trust Kerr to limit him properly. 30 minutes last night was not good coaching.

Post #128 » by **tsherkin** » Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:44 pm

eminence wrote:Yeah, truthfully I think they'd be better off just letting him go and bringing in someone else on the MLE, but if he's willing to come back at that cost I don't mind it.

Just don't really trust Kerr to limit him properly. 30 minutes last night was not good coaching.

Particularly not with how useless he was in all of those minutes. Yeah, there's got to be some nod to what he once was, years ago, which motivates Kerr to keep playing him. But also they don't have anyone else of relevance on their bench to replace him, right?

Minor payment makes sense but they need a proper, starting-level replacement for him because he's cooked.

eminence · Post #129 » by **eminence** » Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:51 pm

tsherkin wrote:
eminence wrote:Yeah, truthfully I think they'd be better off just letting him go and bringing in someone else on the MLE, but if he's willing to come back at that cost I don't mind it.

Just don't really trust Kerr to limit him properly. 30 minutes last night was not good coaching.

Particularly not with how useless he was in all of those minutes. Yeah, there's got to be some nod to what he once was, years ago, which motivates Kerr to keep playing him. But also they don't have anyone else of relevance on their bench to replace him, right?

Minor payment makes sense but they need a proper, starting-level replacement for him because he's cooked.

They fill slightly different roles, but it's hard to argue he was better than Podz/Moody this season or last night but consistently got more minutes.

Thinking it over some more, they should really let him go to save Kerr from himself.

Post #130 » by **tsherkin** » Wed Apr 17, 2024 3:08 pm

eminence wrote:They fill slightly different roles, but it's hard to argue he was better than Podz/Moody this season or last night but consistently got more minutes.

Thinking it over some more, they should really let him go to save Kerr from himself.

Yeah, I'm largely with you there. He shot well from 3 but did literally nothing else well, and even with the 3pt shooting, was not an efficient scorer. And of course since he did nothing else...

TroubleS0me · Post #131 » by **TroubleS0me** » Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:33 pm

Klay gotta come off the bench, this is where he is at and sign a min contract

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cpower · Post #132 » by **cpower** » Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:44 pm

plus minus of the season:
Curry +189
Green +172
Klay +7
Wiggins -58

Klay needs to go, maybe wiggins too. We need major changes

rk2023 · Post #133 » by **rk2023** » Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:44 pm

Feel bad for Steph, Kerr, and CP3

Not Draymond and Klay tho

Post #134 » by **tsherkin** » Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:54 pm

cpower wrote:Klay needs to go, maybe wiggins too. We need major changes

MAYBE Wiggins?

He's brutal. He's so very non-valuable on offense it hurts. People remember a couple of 3PM and a dunk or two in the 2022 playoffs as if he's been a consistently valuable player.

TroubleS0me · Post #135 » by **TroubleS0me** » Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:20 pm

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parsnips33 · Post #136 » by **parsnips33** » Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:56 pm

Well I guess that's something lol

AEnigma · Post #137 » by **AEnigma** » Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:14 am

Hilarious.

TroubleS0me · Post #138 » by **TroubleS0me** » Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:18 am

parsnips33 wrote:Well I guess that's something lol

I know right lol

NbaAllDay · Post #139 » by **NbaAllDay** » Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:50 am

Further proof that the "media awards" as a reference point of 'goodness' is often very laughable and carries very little weight.

cpower · Post #140 » by **cpower** » Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:57 am

NbaAllDay wrote:Further proof that the "media awards" as a reference point of 'goodness' is often very laughable and carries very little weight.

he led all scorers with 189 total points and 32 made 3-pointers (45%) in clutch situations. its a media awards but use more data than things like all nba teams and all defensive teams.