Nikola Jokic - 23-24 NBA Thread - 23 Finals NBA MVP

[Ryoga Hibiki]

I would say the most powerful figures in basketball being predominantly white calls into question the significance of that distinction.

in terms of influencing public opinion they aren't, though

[Ryoga Hibiki]

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very well thought through opinion, I would hire Sheed as POBO of my team

[Mickey8]

The water is wet. The most former black players are anti Jokic. Dummy is saying that with Embiid you can win the title because he's playing defense, ignoring the fact that one player led his team to the title and other never past the second round of the play ofs. Even Bozni knows that Wallace is full of crap. Wallace wouldn't be able to shine Jokic's shoes on the court.

[TroubleS0me]

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[EmpireFalls]

Is it me or was he kind of bad in Games 4/5? Out of rhythm, not making good patient decisions on the ball, Sabonis esque hand off spamming. Not aggressive enough going to the basket or patient enough drawing doubles, also had 6 turnovers tonight. I wasn’t a fan of his defense either.

And then you look at the statlines and it’s still a joke of a line.

[TroubleS0me]

Is it me or was he kind of bad in Games 4/5? Out of rhythm, not making good patient decisions on the ball, Sabonis esque hand off spamming. Not aggressive enough going to the basket or patient enough drawing doubles, also had 6 turnovers tonight. I wasn’t a fan of his defense either.

And then you look at the statlines and it’s still a joke of a line.

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[70sFan]

Is it me or was he kind of bad in Games 4/5? Out of rhythm, not making good patient decisions on the ball, Sabonis esque hand off spamming. Not aggressive enough going to the basket or patient enough drawing doubles, also had 6 turnovers tonight. I wasn’t a fan of his defense either.

And then you look at the statlines and it’s still a joke of a line.

He was far from great in elimination game, but he's so good that even his mediocre game is better than most stars average night.

I do think game 5 was clearly his worst game and they could have lost that because of that. Playing against Davis isn't an easy thing though, so overall that's an incredible series.

[Special_Puppy]

Is it me or was he kind of bad in Games 4/5? Out of rhythm, not making good patient decisions on the ball, Sabonis esque hand off spamming. Not aggressive enough going to the basket or patient enough drawing doubles, also had 6 turnovers tonight. I wasn’t a fan of his defense either.

And then you look at the statlines and it’s still a joke of a line.

I thought he was great game 4, but he was awful game 5

[Mickey8]

He was very good in game 5 and bad in game 4. He just didn't get the ball off the pick and roll. Murray and Jackson were ignoring him all game long in the game 4 he actually didn't look to score.The last night he was asking for the ball , he just didn't get the ball back. Also in this series he was double teamed most of the games. Against Minnesota he wont be doubled a lot so I am expecting big scoring games for him . Also disrespect by the refs towards him is ridiculous.

[rk2023]

Is it me or was he kind of bad in Games 4/5? Out of rhythm, not making good patient decisions on the ball, Sabonis esque hand off spamming. Not aggressive enough going to the basket or patient enough drawing doubles, also had 6 turnovers tonight. I wasn’t a fan of his defense either.

And then you look at the statlines and it’s still a joke of a line.

His offensive brute force is just that damn good.. can coast and troll for extended spurts then lock in for a quarter and waltz through a game of high production - that’s unheard of. His defense though, it leaves a ton to be desired - and I thought James / Davis as a two-man attack forced a lot of issues that nobody really did last PS. Curious how he holds up the rest of PS on that end

[Mickey8]

Well if Davis was the man he would have played Jokic straight up one on one all series long without any double coverage. As soon Jokic would try to post up him up double would come. At least Jokic was there one on one all the way except one game, Davis is a very skilled player. Also Denver guards were horrible in the series playing with Jokic, not passing the ball back, they were taking ton of bad shots Murray,KCP,Jackson,Braun. Hopefully that will change in the next round.

[Alatan]

Is it me or was he kind of bad in Games 4/5? Out of rhythm, not making good patient decisions on the ball, Sabonis esque hand off spamming. Not aggressive enough going to the basket or patient enough drawing doubles, also had 6 turnovers tonight. I wasn’t a fan of his defense either.

And then you look at the statlines and it’s still a joke of a line.

I thought he was great game 4, but he was awful game 5

He was running through the motion for most of game 4 and then switched on to another gear when the game was out of reach. Had he started playing aggressively just 3 minutes earlier there would be no game 5.

He was total ass in game 5. The statline looks great but he was carried hard that game.

[Mickey8]

He wasn't carried , he had 25,20 and 9. His guards were playing like an ass most of the game and the series.