The Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and Chet Holmgren Thread

Laimbeer · Post #21 » by **Laimbeer** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 2:44 pm

SVG compared Chet to Garnett for two way impact. Thoughts?

MMyhre · Post #22 » by **MMyhre** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 3:59 pm

Jalen Williams is very very exciting..

The Master · Post #23 » by **The Master** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 4:05 pm

Laimbeer wrote:SVG compared Chet to Garnett for two way impact. Thoughts?

Impact-wise? A long way to go.

Style-wise? Naah, different roles both defensively and offensively.

Potential-wise?

Hard to say, I don't think Holmgren will have similar defensive impact (he'll be great, but I don't think he can become a great-great 1v1 defender against centers with his frame and his rebounding is kind of questionable as well, his defensive instincts and shotblocking potential are obviously fantastic for such a skilled player), while his offensive game is hard to project. Dream case scenario? Ideally, I see Markkanen-type of scorer with better passing, DPOTY-level defense and perfect fit to the contemporary offense. That's peak AD-level of an impact (within elite environment, OKC will be lethal for years to come), but obviously it's a reach (and depends on Holmgren improving to the level of elite spot up shooter and great shotmaker, but I can imagine that happening, his 'starting point': shooting and feel for the game, is fantastic).

Right now, maybe Cavs' Larry Nance is a good comp if you want skilled shot-blocker providing vertical spacing/shooting depth with decent offensive skills and yet playing as an elite role player on offense, also, not a dominant rebounder. Impact-wise, they may be quite similar (~borderline allstars) - and it's a big compliment to Holmgren all things (first and foremost, age) considered. Visually, they're obviously far away from each other, but Chet is such an unicorn that it's hard to find a decent old comp. Nowadays, Porzingis is obviously a great comparison (both stylistically and impact-wise), but Chet's upside is much bigger than that.

rk2023 · Post #24 » by **rk2023** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:07 pm

The Master wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:SVG compared Chet to Garnett for two way impact. Thoughts?

Impact-wise? A long way to go.

Style-wise? Naah, different roles both defensively and offensively.

Potential-wise?

Hard to say, I don't think Holmgren will have similar defensive impact (he'll be great, but I don't think he can become a great-great 1v1 defender against centers with his frame and his rebounding is kind of questionable as well, his defensive instincts and shotblocking potential are obviously fantastic for such a skilled player), while his offensive game is hard to project. Dream case scenario? Ideally, I see Markkanen-type of scorer with better passing, DPOTY-level defense and perfect fit to the contemporary offense. That's peak AD-level of an impact (within elite environment, OKC will be lethal for years to come), but obviously it's a reach (and depends on Holmgren improving to the level of elite spot up shooter and great shotmaker, but I can imagine that happening, his 'starting point': shooting and feel for the game, is fantastic).

Right now, maybe Cavs' Larry Nance is a good comp if you want skilled shot-blocker providing vertical spacing/shooting depth with decent offensive skills and yet playing as an elite role player on offense, also, not a dominant rebounder. Impact-wise, they may be quite similar (~borderline allstars) - and it's a big compliment to Holmgren all things (first and foremost, age) considered. Visually, they're obviously far away from each other, but Chet is such an unicorn that it's hard to find a decent old comp. Nowadays, Porzingis is obviously a great comparison (both stylistically and impact-wise), but Chet's upside is much bigger than that.

Chet kind of reminds me of a modernized Dirk (the most specifically the 2001-04 version, pre Nash trade).