Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV

Post #621 » by **HMFFL** » Fri May 17, 2024 4:35 am

The Lakers’ best offer in any blockbuster trade looks somewhat similar, with the team able to offer their first-round pick in the year’s draft — No. 17 — in addition to first-round picks in 2029 and 2031. Their best young player, Austin Reaves, is still regarded highly within the organization on two fronts — as a prospect for their future and a player on a team-friendly contract. The team’s willingness to push all in on Mitchell or any other player is still unclear.

https://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/story/2024-05-16/where-do-the-lakers-stand

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Post #622 » by **dms269** » Fri May 17, 2024 11:38 am

One_and_Done wrote:So the Pels solve the problem of overpaying BI, who does fit their team, by overpaying Dejounte, who is a worse fit. Seems illogical.

How does DJM not fit their team? How is he an overpaid contract? He is going to average 27.5 Million for each of the next 3 seasons. It's gonna be hard to find an available point guard as good as he is for less.

Post #623 » by **Jamaaliver** » Fri May 17, 2024 12:22 pm

dms269 wrote:BI is not more valuable than Murray right now. BI is on an expiring contract and wants a max or near max deal, which would be paying him almost double what Murray is schedule to make. I don't like the idea of BI on the Hawks (too much iso, lack of great defense, and worsening shooting), but teams that trade for him are either going to be overpaying him or gambling he will take less.

dms, the individual you're conversing with is not seeking serious debate or conversation.

Don't expect rational, well thought out responses.

Post #624 » by **HMFFL** » Fri May 17, 2024 5:48 pm

If we pursue a Mich smaller scale trade with New Orleans I would like for us to pursue Larry Nance Jr. Expiring after next season at $11m and change.

Early 30's and can be an excellent park off our bench if used properly.

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jayu70 · Post #625 » by **jayu70** » Tue May 21, 2024 2:01 am

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Post #626 » by **dms269** » Tue May 21, 2024 2:33 am

jayu70 wrote:

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Only if he is super cheap or denver is adding assets. Injury risk, overpaid, crazy family.

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Post #627 » by **Jamaaliver** » Wed May 22, 2024 1:52 pm

Oooh boy.

We could only make this trade if Trae gives us some assurances that he's sticking around long term.

Fit wise: a Okongwu-Jalen-MPJ front court would cause serious mismatches...

I'm most resistant to give up Bogi. His impact is positive literally every time he's on the court.

Who would you guys then add at SG both starting and off the bench?

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tbhawksfan1 · Post #628 » by **tbhawksfan1** » Wed May 22, 2024 5:18 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:Oooh boy.

We could only make this trade if Trae gives us some assurances that he's sticking around long term.

Fit wise: a Okongwu-Jalen-MPJ front court would cause serious mismatches...

I'm most resistant to give up Bogi. His impact is positive literally every time he's on the court.

Who would you guys then add at SG both starting and off the bench?

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Like you said OOh boy. Too much risk for my blood. Rather look elsewhere

Post #629 » by **Jamaaliver** » Wed May 22, 2024 5:28 pm

tbhawksfan1 wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:Oooh boy.

We could only make this trade if Trae gives us some assurances that he's sticking around long term.

Fit wise: a Okongwu-Jalen-MPJ front court would cause serious mismatches...

Like you said OOh boy. Too much risk for my blood. Rather look elsewhere

Understandable. This is a move you make if you believe that MPJ has All Star scoring potential that Trae can unlock.

I will say that 3 years/$113 million in this new age of ridiculously high contracts isn't terrible if MPJ does hit.

I can definitely envision a Lauri Markkannen-type emergence with MPJ as a #2 option.

tbhawksfan1 · Post #630 » by **tbhawksfan1** » Wed May 22, 2024 5:38 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
tbhawksfan1 wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:Oooh boy.

We could only make this trade if Trae gives us some assurances that he's sticking around long term.

Fit wise: a Okongwu-Jalen-MPJ front court would cause serious mismatches...

Like you said OOh boy. Too much risk for my blood. Rather look elsewhere

Understandable. This is a move you make if you believe that MPJ has All Star scoring potential that Trae can unlock.

I will say that 3 years/$113 million in this new age of ridiculously high contracts isn't terrible if MPJ does hit.

I can definitely envision a Lauri Markkannen-type emergence with MPJ as a #2 option.

I hear he's a very low IQ player and I know he's a big injury risk. Also the fact that he just stunk it up in the playoffs

Post #631 » by **Jamaaliver** » Wed May 22, 2024 5:47 pm

tbhawksfan1 wrote:I hear he's a very low IQ player and I know he's a big injury risk. Also the fact that he just stunk it up in the playoffs

jayu70 · Post #632 » by **jayu70** » Wed May 22, 2024 9:48 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
tbhawksfan1 wrote:I hear he's a very low IQ player and I know he's a big injury risk. Also the fact that he just stunk it up in the playoffs

Geaux_Hawks · Post #633 » by **Geaux_Hawks** » Wed May 22, 2024 10:45 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:Oooh boy.

We could only make this trade if Trae gives us some assurances that he's sticking around long term.

Fit wise: a Okongwu-Jalen-MPJ front court would cause serious mismatches...

I'm most resistant to give up Bogi. His impact is positive literally every time he's on the court.

Who would you guys then add at SG both starting and off the bench?

Read on Twitter

Hear me out for a second or two. Trae, MPJ, JJ, Sarr, OO.....

...

....

A 6'10 SG?! Talk about size and versatility throughout the lineup around Trae.

Post #634 » by **dms269** » Thu May 23, 2024 1:49 am

Jamaaliver wrote:Oooh boy.

We could only make this trade if Trae gives us some assurances that he's sticking around long term.

Fit wise: a Okongwu-Jalen-MPJ front court would cause serious mismatches...

I'm most resistant to give up Bogi. His impact is positive literally every time he's on the court.

Who would you guys then add at SG both starting and off the bench?

Read on Twitter

No thanks. An overpaid major injury risk with a crazy family doesn't bode well.

Post #635 » by **HMFFL** » Sun May 26, 2024 1:03 pm

MPJ is one player that Denver would possibly like to move because he's not consistent. He makes between 35 and 40 million per season and I don't believe he makes the impact to justify his contract. Imagine paying a guy that amount of money that is a teams third option. He's not a superstar.

Post #636 » by **HMFFL** » Sun May 26, 2024 3:50 pm

People should look at MPJ's salary and ask themselves is he going to be a champion without Jokic?

How things look he would need to be our second option.

Post #637 » by **HMFFL** » Sun May 26, 2024 3:51 pm

Geaux_Hawks wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:Oooh boy.

We could only make this trade if Trae gives us some assurances that he's sticking around long term.

Fit wise: a Okongwu-Jalen-MPJ front court would cause serious mismatches...

I'm most resistant to give up Bogi. His impact is positive literally every time he's on the court.

Who would you guys then add at SG both starting and off the bench?

Read on Twitter

Hear me out for a second or two. Trae, MPJ, JJ, Sarr, OO..... ... ... ....

A 6'10 SG?! Talk about size and versatility throughout the lineup around Trae.

Bog is undervalued. Put him on Denver and his value will be noticed. The guy is a winner ans his contract is good.

Post #638 » by **Jamaaliver** » Sun May 26, 2024 4:48 pm

HMFFL wrote:Bog is undervalued. Put him on Denver and his value will be noticed. The guy is a winner ans his contract is good.

For all of the flaws on this roster, we really do have some above average pieces on great contracts. (Bogdan and Okongwu especially)

I'd hate to see us throw those assets away on a gamble like MPJ or otherwise.

Geaux_Hawks · Post #639 » by **Geaux_Hawks** » Sun May 26, 2024 5:58 pm

HMFFL wrote:
Geaux_Hawks wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:Oooh boy.

We could only make this trade if Trae gives us some assurances that he's sticking around long term.

Fit wise: a Okongwu-Jalen-MPJ front court would cause serious mismatches...

I'm most resistant to give up Bogi. His impact is positive literally every time he's on the court.

Who would you guys then add at SG both starting and off the bench?

Read on Twitter

Hear me out for a second or two. Trae, MPJ, JJ, Sarr, OO..... ... ... ....

A 6'10 SG?! Talk about size and versatility throughout the lineup around Trae.

Bog is undervalued. Put him on Denver and his value will be noticed. The guy is a winner ans his contract is good.

I think he's valuable as well. I do think a healthy MPJ would be more dynamic as a scorer. So maybe finding a different route to add MPJ?

King Ken · Post #640 » by **King Ken** » Sun May 26, 2024 6:17 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
HMFFL wrote:Bog is undervalued. Put him on Denver and his value will be noticed. The guy is a winner ans his contract is good.

For all of the flaws on this roster, we really do have some above average pieces on great contracts. (Bogdan and Okongwu especially)

I'd hate to see us throw those assets away on a gamble like MPJ or otherwise.

Bogi is better than MPJ. Such a crap trade.

We aren't that far. I wish our fans would realize that