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Re: Off season targets 

Post#16 » by PandaKidd » Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:47 am

Im kinda high on Andray Blatche out of Brooklyn, whats his contract look like?

6'11'', good FT shooter, long and athletic. Cheap pick up
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Re: Off season targets 

Post#17 » by tcorbin » Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:04 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
tcorbin wrote:^ it is pointless to resign Josh if Dwight is not coming. might as well let just Josh and Dwight build a dynasty in LA if Ferry can get the two in ATL.

might as well just get one free agent and maybe make a Granger trade if the Pacers want to unload his big contract.


I could only hope LAL would be dumb enough to trade Gasol 2 us for Smoove. Pau has been their best big since Shaq.

Pau and AL would dominate the East for the next 3 years.


That is just dumb, Josh's cap space is alot better than a declining, old, over paid Gasol

BTW, if you didn't know, Atlanta doesn't need ANOTHER power forward :crazy:
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Re: Off season targets 

Post#18 » by Geaux_Hawks » Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:35 pm

tcorbin wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:
tcorbin wrote:^ it is pointless to resign Josh if Dwight is not coming. might as well let just Josh and Dwight build a dynasty in LA if Ferry can get the two in ATL.

might as well just get one free agent and maybe make a Granger trade if the Pacers want to unload his big contract.


I could only hope LAL would be dumb enough to trade Gasol 2 us for Smoove. Pau has been their best big since Shaq.

Pau and AL would dominate the East for the next 3 years.


That is just dumb, Josh's cap space is alot better than a declining, old, over paid Gasol

BTW, if you didn't know, Atlanta doesn't need ANOTHER power forward :crazy:

You haven't seen enough of Pau to say he is a PF at this stage in his career. Pau always has had a center's skill set, and it's even more fine tuned than before. I'll agree that capspace would probably be more useful, but Gasol is also an expiring contract.
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Post#19 » by parson » Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:03 pm

Geaux_Hawks wrote:You haven't seen enough of Pau to say he is a PF at this stage in his career. Pau always has had a center's skill set, and it's even more fine tuned than before. I'll agree that capspace would probably be more useful, but Gasol is also an expiring contract.

Which, for us, means he's a good fall-back plan if all other options fail. Problem is, to get him, we'd have to SNT Josh Smith to the Lakers this offseason, which might be BEFORE we'd have time to explore our other options,
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Re: Off season targets 

Post#20 » by theatlfan » Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:01 pm

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tcorbin wrote:^ it is pointless to resign Josh if Dwight is not coming. might as well let just Josh and Dwight build a dynasty in LA if Ferry can get the two in ATL.

might as well just get one free agent and maybe make a Granger trade if the Pacers want to unload his big contract.


I could only hope LAL would be dumb enough to trade Gasol 2 us for Smoove. Pau has been their best big since Shaq.

Pau and AL would dominate the East for the next 3 years.
LAL can't trade for an SNT player.

PandaKidd wrote:Im kinda high on Andray Blatche out of Brooklyn, whats his contract look like?

6'11'', good FT shooter, long and athletic. Cheap pick up
I'm not as good on the details on the new CBA and salary cap as I was on the last one, so maybe someone can chime in on some of the aspects to this. If I have everything correct though, here's the deal with Blatche:
Since no one picked up his contract when he was amnestied, he basically counts as a waived player. In these cases, the team waiving the player (in this case, Washington) would still be on the hook for the full amount of his original contract, but the amount of his current contract is forgiven. In this example: Blatche is making ~$7.1M this year from his original contract. Since BRK is giving him ~$900K, then WASH is giving him the rest. Basically, how much a team $$ under ~$8M offers Blatche over the next two years means nothing - he should still get the bulk of his salary from WASH.

Due to the length of the remaining amnestied contract and the amount, it makes the most sense for Blatche to remain with his current team for the vet mini until the amnestied contract lapses since he would then gain Bird Rights with BRK. Unless someone got very creative with their accounting, I'd be shocked to see him move anywhere.
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Re: Off season targets 

Post#21 » by PandaKidd » Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:47 pm

So not really "cheap". Maybe hes insurance in case Lopez goes down?

I just see a ton of big men on their roster with
Reggie Evans
Lopez
Wallace signed to that huge contract
Humphries
Blatche

Someone on that roster has to go. They signed KH to a 2 year deal, I think hes the most logical one to depart. Unless they can somehow entice someone to take Wallace.
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Re: Off season targets 

Post#22 » by theatlfan » Fri Apr 26, 2013 4:25 am

PandaKidd wrote:So not really "cheap". Maybe hes insurance in case Lopez goes down?

I just see a ton of big men on their roster with
Reggie Evans
Lopez
Wallace signed to that huge contract
Humphries
Blatche

Someone on that roster has to go. They signed KH to a 2 year deal, I think hes the most logical one to depart. Unless they can somehow entice someone to take Wallace.

Not sure I was clear: Unless you're willing to offer $8M or 3 guaranteed years, then it makes more fiscal sense to Blatche to sign the vet mini with BRK... not sure I'd be willing to break the bank on someone a team currently in the top 10 cut less than a year ago.
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Re: Off season targets 

Post#23 » by Jamaaliver » Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:41 pm

Gasol, at 7 feet, 250 pounds, can play center. He'd be a great one year rental. He's better than Josh. Even at this age.

Didn't realize LAL can't do a sign and trade. (We should have done this trade last season!)
Maybe ths change if they amnesty MWP. Or if Dwight leaves in FA.
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Re: Off season targets 

Post#24 » by Jamaaliver » Fri May 3, 2013 10:18 pm

Thoughts on Jarrett Jack potentially as a low-cost replacement for Teague? (Should JT price himself out of our range.)

As a Bigger guard, he could fit next to Lou Williams a bit better than Teague did. (Defensively.)

The production from Jarrett and Teague is similar. If we were to pursue a guy like CJ McCollum in the draft, Jack is big enough to play next to him better than Teague, Devin or any other PG on the market. (Defensively.)

I'd pursue him, but for no more than $6 mill per season. (Maybe a 4 year/ $25 million deal).
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Post#25 » by azuresou1 » Sat May 4, 2013 8:02 pm

I'm going to run some numbers over the weekend and will post a list of guys who I think are currently undervalued and who fit our needs. Look forward to it on Mon
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Post#26 » by Rip2137 » Sun May 5, 2013 5:20 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:Thoughts on Jarrett Jack potentially as a low-cost replacement for Teague? (Should JT price himself out of our range.)

As a Bigger guard, he could fit next to Lou Williams a bit better than Teague did. (Defensively.)

The production from Jarrett and Teague is similar. If we were to pursue a guy like CJ McCollum in the draft, Jack is big enough to play next to him better than Teague, Devin or any other PG on the market. (Defensively.)

I'd pursue him, but for no more than $6 mill per season. (Maybe a 4 year/ $25 million deal).



I like him at the position.

I think our coach will dictate the importance of the point guard though. If Drew is still the coach, I think the position is plenty replaceable. I would rather have a point with a better three/midrange game(Jack fits the bill) than Teague(who is solid from both, his shot is just so slow he rarely gets to take it).

The question is, would GS let him go after the run they are going to be on. With Curry being a injury waiting to happen, I think they would retain at all cost.
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Re: Off season targets 

Post#27 » by NeZoRiL » Mon May 6, 2013 4:57 am

I want Tony Allen and a good defensive big. Get Tony and Jermaine and that would be good. Get a good PG like Barbosa who can score a little and dish the rock. Wouldn't mind Ronnie Brewer, or Corey for that matter. Vince had a very decent season and would be a positive addition.
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