We need an A type @ SG

[geeman]

I think korver needs to come off the bench next year?

[Goudelock]

Do you mean a Kobe type 2guard or a Klay Thompson type 2guard?

[Jamaaliver]

We also need a big, defensive-minded, rebounding Center like every other team still playing has.

In regards to the SG need, I agree wholeheartedly and suggest Wes Mathews. He has good size, 3-pt range, strong defense, is unselfish...basically he fits the mold of the new Atlanta Hawks.

Wes is coming back from a serious injury, so he should be cheap. He also will, thusly, require quite a bit of time to recover.

A year from now, Wes backed up by Korver is a very solid rotation at Shooting guard.

Other options include:

KEntavious Caldwell-Pope, a nice young 3 & D player in need of some good coaching.

Jimmy Butler, though he's likely returning to CHI, he is the best SG in the league not named James Harden

M Kidd-Gilchrist, a great young defender who is a beast in transition but currently can't shoot at all

Evan Fournier, a solid foreign born swingman who would fit our system well

Danny Green, the supreme 3 & D player in the NBA and has a relationship with Bud

Monta Ellis, who Ferry was linked to back in 2013

Tim Hardaway, Jr who could probably be had from NYC for very little

[Geaux_Hawks]

Agree with Korver needing to come off the bench. We could use an upgrade in the lineup at the 2.

Problem we're going to run into is who can we obtain.

Wes Matthews would probably be the best option for us.

Khris Middleton would cost a pretty penny, although would be great to have.

A name many may not like is Eric Gordon. Guy has loads of talent, can shoot the 3, but he's missed games due to injury. May not opt out of his contract though. Him or Jrue Holiday could give us a much needed combo style guard that can do alot of different things since we already have a pure shooter in Korver.

I really don't see a lot of obtainable guys due to a lack of productive ones, or the good ones not going anywhere.

[Hawk Eye]

I might be in the minority here but I think Korver is fine as our starting SG going forward into next season. Despite being 34, Korver has been playing great. In the playoffs he's been playing anywhere from 30 minutes to 40 minutes so he is obviously in great shape. Even though his shot has been cold he has still found ways to contribute on the defensive side especially with his blocks.

The most valuable part of having Korver though is the attention that he draws from his man. I don't think anyone in the league stays as glued to their man like the person guarding Korver does. Because Korver requires so much attention, the help defender can't rotate over for the help and that's how a lot of driving lanes are created for us. Korvers presence alone creates valuable lanes for us on offense.

So removing Korver from our starting 5 could cause some drastic effects imo.

I also think a rim protector is a way higher need right now for us then a replacement for Korver.

[PandaKidd]

You can keep korver if you upgrade C , you can't have both.

When korver gets bogged down you HAVE TO HAVE A LOW POST presence to get a high percentage shot. You also need a rebounder to get the board and get everyone out in transition which is where Korver does the most damage.

[MaceCase]

I might be in the minority here but I think Korver is fine as our starting SG going forward into next season. Despite being 34, Korver has been playing great. In the playoffs he's been playing anywhere from 30 minutes to 40 minutes so he is obviously in great shape. Even though his shot has been cold he has still found ways to contribute on the defensive side especially with his blocks.

The most valuable part of having Korver though is the attention that he draws from his man. I don't think anyone in the league stays as glued to their man like the person guarding Korver does. Because Korver requires so much attention, the help defender can't rotate over for the help and that's how a lot of driving lanes are created for us. Korvers presence alone creates valuable lanes for us on offense.

So removing Korver from our starting 5 could cause some drastic effects imo.

I also think a rim protector is a way higher need right now for us then a replacement for Korver.

Yea, not a big believer that Kyle needs to be replaced, he's a guy that impacts the game even without making a shot. If you can find an upgrade such as a Thompson/Harden absolutely, but for now I think the plan should be getting deeper at the wing depth. The previous year had only Louis and we upgraded to Thabo and Bazemore so I think this year if you can get a 3rd bench guy/spot starter either through the draft or free agency and you're golden. It doesn't come as a surprise that once the Hawks depth was tested with the initial Thabo injury that they all of a sudden fell off from being invincible. I think there are enough bigs in the farm between Musky and Edy but outside of Patterson, who has none of the hype, the team does need a wing in the pipeline.

[PandaKidd]

There's no evidence Tavares is even NBA ready. I'm sure he comes over but it doesn't solve our starting 5 getting worked over on the boards and having virtually no low post presence

[Hawkeyes]

I would be absolutely thrilled if we got Wes Matthews. Not sure how realistic that is since he is so loved in Portland.

[DirtybirdGA]

They need an A type at either 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5.

[Jamaaliver]

George Karls' thoughts on limited offensive players like Korver:

In a playoff series, you can figure out shooting, You just cover Kyle Korver. All that cute stuff they ran for him all year long — they only get that once in a while now. The shooters who have playmaking ability — those are the guys that are really kicking ass.

This bears out as KK's stats/production/efficiency tend to take a dive during postseason play.

The article also makes it seem like Millsap will be heavily courted this summer. Even moreso than expected

[ddsdevil]

I tend to agree with George Karl. Korver would be a great boost off of the bench, but as we've seen in these playoffs, having another playmaker in the floor to help Teague would be nice. Korver found a way to help in other ways when he struggled from three, but his lack of production killed us. We need to be busy this offseason.

[theatlfan]

One stat I heard on the radio after Korver went down was that even though Korver's shooting was obviously off (49.2% 3PT% in regular season versus 35.5% in the playoffs), we were still +60 when he was on the court and -30 when he was off just in the playoffs. I could see curtailing his minutes but I can't really see replacing him, he's an AS so there aren't many out there would be better and affordable even with our cap situation.

[reazun]

Wow. He was an all star this year. I agree his shots didnt fall in the playoffs, but neither did anyone from our team shots at times during the post season.

[Geaux_Hawks]

His legs were obviously dead, and couldn't sustain having to give the extra effort in other areas and maintain being a prolific shooter. Add in that teams played him tight and made him work even harder in the playoffs, then you could see how it's not farfetched to think how KK is better off the bench for us.

Even for the sake of just making our bench stronger is a good reason to go out and find another 2 guard and moving Korver to the bench is a good idea.

He's also 35(or will be), and we're going to need a replacement soon. If we're smart, we'll be proactive and find that now.

[my2bits]

Korver's plus/minus numbers are fools gold. His presence tends to Mask the fact that we don't have a low post big or a penetrating wing. He makes the opponent play honest defense but doesn't create double teams. To win the title you must be able to create a double team without a pick n roll. No one on our team consistently creates doubles. Teague can do it but because he is so small he can be held in check. Milsapp did it at times but was ineffective vs Cavs size. A slasher with size and an imposing forward/center is what we lack. Korver is an asset just not what is gonna decide our fate.

[td00]

Geaux_Hawks, I have a bit of interest as well in Gordon, but as I recall, the Pelicans were doing their best to dump him last year.
He can score the bucket, but I think that's his total set of tools. He'll want 3 years if he opts out though and that is a huge risk.

What if DWade all of a sudden became available? Would you even venture that way and could he justify us giving him solid money for next season? The relationship would have to be unrepairable in MIA, but worth looking at, similar to Gasol last year. I think you have to show him he's a priority for him to consider it though, plus he has to opt-out first.

FA is for bringing in difference makers, getting SAP/DMC to come back at around 26M, and then draft Lyles at 15 if he's still there.
He probably doesn't get past Indy at 11 though. (kid who grew up there)

[D21]

George Karls' thoughts on limited offensive players like Korver:

In a playoff series, you can figure out shooting, You just cover Kyle Korver. All that cute stuff they ran for him all year long — they only get that once in a while now. The shooters who have playmaking ability — those are the guys that are really kicking ass.

This bears out as KK's stats/production/efficiency tend to take a dive during postseason play.

But we are talking about a 5M guy. A shooter with playmaking ability will cost more. It's just that Korver can't be our first offensive option. He's supposed to be respected and it makes the game easier for the four other guys on the floor.

[Jamaaliver]

George Karls' thoughts on limited offensive players like Korver:

In a playoff series, you can figure out shooting, You just cover Kyle Korver. All that cute stuff they ran for him all year long — they only get that once in a while now. The shooters who have playmaking ability — those are the guys that are really kicking ass.

This bears out as KK's stats/production/efficiency tend to take a dive during postseason play.

But we are talking about a 5M guy. A shooter with playmaking ability will cost more. It's just that Korver can't be our first offensive option. He's supposed to be respected and it makes the game easier for the four other guys on the floor.

This is...100% correct. And at 35 and coming off injury, Korver will likely be a step slower every year until he retires.

A solid all-around SG coming back from injury or a young underrated SG acquired via trade or draft are likely our best bets at a bargain:

Wes Mathews, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Lance Stephenson, Tim Hardaway, Jr are a few names that could be had for minimal cost.

D'Angelo Russell or Justise Winslow could be drafted...if we could devise a plan to move into the top 4.

[siar617]

We also need a big, defensive-minded, rebounding Center like every other team still playing has.

In regards to the SG need, I agree wholeheartedly and suggest Wes Mathews. He has good size, 3-pt range, strong defense, is unselfish...basically he fits the mold of the new Atlanta Hawks.

Wes is coming back from a serious injury, so he should be cheap. He also will, thusly, require quite a bit of time to recover.

A year from now, Wes backed up by Korver is a very solid rotation at Shooting guard.

Other options include:

KEntavious Caldwell-Pope, a nice young 3 & D player in need of some good coaching.

Jimmy Butler, though he's likely returning to CHI, he is the best SG in the league not named James Harden

M Kidd-Gilchrist, a great young defender who is a beast in transition but currently can't shoot at all

Evan Fournier, a solid foreign born swingman who would fit our system well

Danny Green, the supreme 3 & D player in the NBA and has a relationship with Bud

Monta Ellis, who Ferry was linked to back in 2013

Tim Hardaway, Jr who could probably be had from NYC for very little

Take Calderon and Tim is yours