Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread (Part 2)

[dms269]

I'm pretty sure the answer to this will be a hard no, but just checking...

Atlanta Hawks get:
Lance Thomas
2017 New York Knicks Lottery Protected First Round Draft Pick
2017 Chicago Bulls Second Round Draft Pick
2017 Houston Rockets Second Round Draft Pick

New York Knicks get:
Thabo Sefolosha
Kyle Korver

-or-

Atlanta Hawks get:
Lance Thomas
2017 New York Knicks Top 20 Protected First Round Draft Pick
2017 Chicago Bulls Second Round Draft Pick

New York Knicks get:
Thabo Sefolosha
* Plus whichever player is preferred to match salaries (Mike Scott?) *

Well think about it, you are wanting Atlanta to trade Thabo and Korver for what amounts to a lottery protected first. The 2nds don't have value and neither does Thomas.

[Mauro Pedrosa]

What's up guys, what do you think of this?

[Bulls03]

Hawks get: Lopez, Mirotic or Taj, Valentine, & a 1st round pick

Bulls get: Millsap, Korver or Thabo, & Muscala

Would you guys be interested in this?

[Jamaaliver]

What's up guys, what do you think of this?

Yeah. I guess. It doesn't make this team better. But we'd get some valuable assets to move. (Vucevic might pair well with Dwight, I guess.)

But just getting value would be a wise move.

[King Ken]

Hawks get: Lopez, Mirotic or Taj, Valentine, & a 1st round pick

Bulls get: Millsap, Korver or Thabo, & Muscala

Would you guys be interested in this?

This is extremely bad for us, I'll rather cap space

What's up guys, what do you think of this?

It's pretty bad for us. I rather cap space.

[King Ken]

Since we are listening to trades for Thabo, Kyle and Millsap. Here is the needs for each player.

Millsap- Rebuilding package. We want a high lottery pick. (Brooklyn's pick or multiple lottery like 1st round picks)
We want a stud ideally- Wiggins, LeVine.
We want a potential stud as value- Chriss, Bender and other valued assets.

Don't want mid to late 1sts.
Role players, young or old.
Contracts.

Cap space is more valuable than any of those trade pieces.

Korver

Ideal- A 1st in this upcoming draft.
Value- Future 1st.
Cap space
Bad - 2nd rounders.
Really bad- contracts who aren't good.
Really no c'mon for Korver since only a few teams will be interested.

Thabo

Ideal- A solid piece like Collison from SAC.
Value- Mid to late 1st or future 1st.
Cap space
Bad- 2nd rounders and such.



Value chart:

Ideal Trade value- Is good value for our asset. Our asset is a top 25 player and he have his bird rights. This is where we get exactly what we want.

Value- This is where we get pieces we can build with and potentially around depending on the player.

Cap Space- If Millsap leaves which is possible, cap space is still a valuable asset for us.


Bad Value - Cap space is better than that offer.
Really bad value - Cap space is way better than that offer.
C'mon, seriously - Stop trolling.

[King Ken]

I could see the Hornets coming out of no where with like a Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Frank Kaminsky, Roy Hibbert and 2017 First Round Draft Pick for Paul Millsap and Thabo Sefolosha (or Kyle Korver) kind of offer.

And if the Hawks leadership has any sense whatsoever, they'd take that offer and run.

If the Hawks don't get value, there will be no deal. Cap space is far too valuable and Atlanta only has four players under contract for 2017-18. Atlanta has a lot in it's corner, with or without Millsap and they are position to stay on course or rebuild and could actually do it. Taking contracts will only harm them at this point unless they are young players with clear potential. No, well I really like XnX. It needs to be clear and define.

[Patsfan1081]

Since we are listening to trades for Thabo, Kyle and Millsap. Here is the needs for each player.

Millsap- Rebuilding package. We want a high lottery pick. (Brooklyn's pick or multiple lottery like 1st round picks)
We want a stud ideally- Wiggins, LeVine.
We want a potential stud as value- Chriss, Bender and other valued assets.

Don't want mid to late 1sts.
Role players, young or old.
Contracts.

Cap space is more valuable than any of those trade pieces.

Korver

Ideal- A 1st in this upcoming draft.
Value- Future 1st.
Cap space
Bad - 2nd rounders.
Really bad- contracts who aren't good.
Really no c'mon for Korver since only a few teams will be interested.

Thabo

Ideal- A solid piece like Collison from SAC.
Value- Mid to late 1st or future 1st.
Cap space
Bad- 2nd rounders and such.



Value chart:

Ideal Trade value- Is good value for our asset. Our asset is a top 25 player and he have his bird rights. This is where we get exactly what we want.

Value- This is where we get pieces we can build with and potentially around depending on the player.

Cap Space- If Millsap leaves which is possible, cap space is still a valuable asset for us.


Bad Value - Cap space is better than that offer.
Really bad value - Cap space is way better than that offer.
C'mon, seriously - Stop trolling.

I came to see what Hawks fans were thinking about possible value, this can't possibly be right could it? I could see a first for Korver, he could add some nice shooting to a playoff contendor. But Wiggins or a top five pick in next years draft for a rental of Milsap. A mid first for Thabo? I'm not trying to offend anyone but that doesn't seem close to realistic.

[Patsfan1081]

I could see the Hornets coming out of no where with like a Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Frank Kaminsky, Roy Hibbert and 2017 First Round Draft Pick for Paul Millsap and Thabo Sefolosha (or Kyle Korver) kind of offer.

And if the Hawks leadership has any sense whatsoever, they'd take that offer and run.

If the Hawks don't get value, there will be no deal. Cap space is far too valuable and Atlanta only has four players under contract for 2017-18. Atlanta has a lot in it's corner, with or without Millsap and they are position to stay on course or rebuild and could actually do it. Taking contracts will only harm them at this point unless they are young players with clear potential. No, well I really like XnX. It needs to be clear and define.

MKG and Kaminsky are two pretty nice young players with potential.

[ATL Boy]

Since we are listening to trades for Thabo, Kyle and Millsap. Here is the needs for each player.

Millsap- Rebuilding package. We want a high lottery pick. (Brooklyn's pick or multiple lottery like 1st round picks)
We want a stud ideally- Wiggins, LeVine.
We want a potential stud as value- Chriss, Bender and other valued assets.

Don't want mid to late 1sts.
Role players, young or old.
Contracts.

Cap space is more valuable than any of those trade pieces.

Korver

Ideal- A 1st in this upcoming draft.
Value- Future 1st.
Cap space
Bad - 2nd rounders.
Really bad- contracts who aren't good.
Really no c'mon for Korver since only a few teams will be interested.

Thabo

Ideal- A solid piece like Collison from SAC.
Value- Mid to late 1st or future 1st.
Cap space
Bad- 2nd rounders and such.



Value chart:

Ideal Trade value- Is good value for our asset. Our asset is a top 25 player and he have his bird rights. This is where we get exactly what we want.

Value- This is where we get pieces we can build with and potentially around depending on the player.

Cap Space- If Millsap leaves which is possible, cap space is still a valuable asset for us.


Bad Value - Cap space is better than that offer.
Really bad value - Cap space is way better than that offer.
C'mon, seriously - Stop trolling.

I came to see what Hawks fans were thinking about possible value, this can't possibly be right could it? I could see a first for Korver, he could add some nice shooting to a playoff contendor. But Wiggins or a top five pick in next years draft for a rental of Milsap. A mid first for Thabo? I'm not trying to offend anyone but that doesn't seem close to realistic.

Trust me, this is not what the majority of us are looking for. We're realistic and know that this isn't career mode in 2K.


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[Jamaaliver]

Since we are listening to trades for Thabo, Kyle and Millsap. Here is the needs for each player.

Millsap- Rebuilding package. We want a high lottery pick. (Brooklyn's pick or multiple lottery like 1st round picks)
We want a stud ideally- Wiggins, LeVine.

I came to see what Hawks fans were thinking about possible value, this can't possibly be right could it? I could see a first for Korver, he could add some nice shooting to a playoff contendor. But Wiggins or a top five pick in next years draft for a rental of Milsap. A mid first for Thabo? I'm not trying to offend anyone but that doesn't seem close to realistic.

Please don't pay this dude any attention.

None of us do...

[dalton749]

Since we are listening to trades for Thabo, Kyle and Millsap. Here is the needs for each player.

Millsap- Rebuilding package. We want a high lottery pick. (Brooklyn's pick or multiple lottery like 1st round picks)
We want a stud ideally- Wiggins, LeVine.

I came to see what Hawks fans were thinking about possible value, this can't possibly be right could it? I could see a first for Korver, he could add some nice shooting to a playoff contendor. But Wiggins or a top five pick in next years draft for a rental of Milsap. A mid first for Thabo? I'm not trying to offend anyone but that doesn't seem close to realistic.

Please don't pay this dude any attention.

None of us do...

He can have poeltl and Ross as his lottery picks, and some expirings lol. Toronto has to pay up for him though, there the only team he makes a real difference for with the best chance of keeping him.

[atlantabbq99]

Bulls and Thunder are the only two teams that makes sense for a Millsap trade.

I don't know if the Bulls are willing to give up McDermott and extras (Mirotic , Portis, or Valentine) for Millsap so he can team up with other vets in Butler, Rondo, and Wade. Hawks can start Muscala for the time being and have Korver and McDermott play a Ryan Anderson PF role for limited minutes with Dwight. And eventually, years down the line, hopefully Budz can coach up McDermott so he can be as good as all star Korver 2 years ago.

I think the Thunder would really love to have Millsap to make Westbrook happy, but i don't think Sabonis is good enough trade bait to get Millsap. Kanter is also an option, but his game doesn't really fit well into Budz system, and i don't think him and Dwight would work well together.

[atlantabbq99]

Suns could also be an interesting trading partner for Millsap, but i don't know if they are willing to give up one of their young prospects, or if one of their young prospects would be worth it.

[Troubadour]

As Hawks fans, what are some of your ideal trading partners and returns for Millsap?

[Jamaaliver]

As Hawks fans, what are some of your ideal trading partners and returns for Millsap?

The package OKC got from ORLANDO in the Serge Ibaka trade is the ideal scenario.

A young prospect capable of contributing immediately (Oladipo). A modest draft pick or high potential rookie (Sabonis or #11 pick). Short term salaried role players to balance out the numbers (Ilyasova).

[Troubadour]

As Hawks fans, what are some of your ideal trading partners and returns for Millsap?

The package OKC got from ORLANDO in the Serge Ibaka trade is the ideal scenario.

A young prospect capable of contributing immediately (Oladipo). A modest draft pick or high potential rookie (Sabonis or #11 pick). Short term salaried role players to balance out the numbers (Ilyasova).

Interesting - thanks for the reply. Some ideas:

Denver: Gary Harris, Danilo Gallinari, Jusuf Nurkic for Paul Millsap
Toronto: Terrence Ross, Patrick Patterson, Jakob Poeltl for Paul Millsap
Boston: Jaylen Brown, Amir Johnson, future 1st Round Pick (MEM) for Paul Millsap

[Jamaaliver]

Interesting - thanks for the reply. Some ideas:

Denver: Gary Harris, Danilo Gallinari, Jusuf Nurkic for Paul Millsap
Toronto: Terrence Ross, Patrick Patterson, Jakob Poeltl for Paul Millsap
Boston: Jaylen Brown, Amir Johnson, future 1st Round Pick (MEM) for Paul Millsap

3 months of Millsap for 4 years of Jaylen Brown would be too good to be true. We'd have to snap that up. (That kid is raw...but has serious upside.)

The Denver package also is appealing. Nurkic can be productive, Gallinari seems like a natural fit next to Dwight (and an obvious target in Free Agency.)

The Toronto package seems the most likely.

[ATL Boy]

As Hawks fans, what are some of your ideal trading partners and returns for Millsap?

The package OKC got from ORLANDO in the Serge Ibaka trade is the ideal scenario.

A young prospect capable of contributing immediately (Oladipo). A modest draft pick or high potential rookie (Sabonis or #11 pick). Short term salaried role players to balance out the numbers (Ilyasova).

Interesting - thanks for the reply. Some ideas:

Denver: Gary Harris, Danilo Gallinari, Jusuf Nurkic for Paul Millsap
Toronto: Terrence Ross, Patrick Patterson, Jakob Poeltl for Paul Millsap
Boston: Jaylen Brown, Amir Johnson, future 1st Round Pick (MEM) for Paul Millsap

I'd actually be ok with any of these trades. We might have to send Splitter or Scott back to make some roster space in a 3 for 1 trade on the first two.


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[Nuggets_Talk]

As Hawks fans, what are some of your ideal trading partners and returns for Millsap?

The package OKC got from ORLANDO in the Serge Ibaka trade is the ideal scenario.

A young prospect capable of contributing immediately (Oladipo). A modest draft pick or high potential rookie (Sabonis or #11 pick). Short term salaried role players to balance out the numbers (Ilyasova).

Interesting - thanks for the reply. Some ideas:

Denver: Gary Harris, Danilo Gallinari, Jusuf Nurkic for Paul Millsap
Toronto: Terrence Ross, Patrick Patterson, Jakob Poeltl for Paul Millsap
Boston: Jaylen Brown, Amir Johnson, future 1st Round Pick (MEM) for Paul Millsap

I hope not on that Denver idea.