How can ATL best utilize the new Young-Murray backcourt?

Post #201 » by **Jamaaliver** » Mon Dec 25, 2023 5:37 am

Post #202 » by **Jamaaliver** » Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:45 am

Marc Stein wrote:The Hawks have struggled this season and there is some level of skepticism that Murray and Trae Young are a complementary backcourt fit.

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I wonder what Travis Schlenk is thinking right now...

Post #203 » by **Jamaaliver** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:07 am

Since his name popped up in trade talks, Dejounte has been noticeably less attentive.

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Post #204 » by **Jamaaliver** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:32 am

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jayu70 · Post #205 » by **jayu70** » Mon Jan 1, 2024 4:17 pm

Interesting to note that DJ is playing 2 mpg less than last season while Trae is playing 2mpg more.

Post #206 » by **Jamaaliver** » Mon Jan 1, 2024 4:46 pm

We sure we ready to break these guys up?

If not for a few End of Game breakdowns, we'd easily be top-8 in the East right now.

I don't LOVE the pairing, but don't want to sell low on it in a panic move, either.

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Post #207 » by **Jamaaliver** » Thu Jan 4, 2024 7:51 pm

we play double PGs but one of them leads the league in On Ball %.

Meaning the other is stuck staring and watching without the ball most of their shared minutes...

Starting to explain a lot.

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Post #208 » by **Jamaaliver** » Wed Jan 10, 2024 4:53 pm

The bet on Murray was made with the idea of installing such a dynamic. Murray, on paper, is more or less everything that Young is not: long and rangy, athletic, a chaotic disrupter on defense. But the pair fumbled their batons in year one, in an awkward my-turn-your-turn dynamic, before Atlanta realized that it still needed Trae to be Trae.

While Murray is in the midst of his most efficient shooting season yet, the backcourt’s lack of synergy remains evident in what has become a lost season. Murray seems like a lock to be traded before the deadline, and whichever team does acquire him will be seeking, at best, a third option rather than the co-lead that the Hawks once valued him as. Murray’s reputation as a havoc-creating defender has become even more illusory than Young’s reputation as a lights-out shooter...

(In an almost pointless display of irony, Young is having the best defensive season of his career. He’s already drawn as many or more charges this season—six—as he had in each of his past three seasons. And he’s actually been solid navigating screens, with his encyclopedic knowledge of pick-and-rolls from the other vantage as his guide. Unfortunately, there is only so much a 164-pound guard can do to drastically improve the margins on that side of the ball.)

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Post #209 » by **HMFFL** » Wed Jan 10, 2024 5:19 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:We sure we ready to break these guys up?

If not for a few End of Game breakdowns, we'd easily be top-8 in the East right now.

I don't LOVE the pairing, but don't want to sell low on it in a panic move, either.

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Post #210 » by **Jamaaliver** » Wed Jan 10, 2024 11:03 pm

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Post #211 » by **Jamaaliver** » Thu Jan 11, 2024 4:33 am

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Post #212 » by **Jamaaliver** » Sat Jan 13, 2024 12:10 am

This is pretty spot on and explains the flaw in our team building. Too much overlapping skill with Trae and Dejounte (and Clint and Collins before that). We lacked talent diversity and too often elite teams/schemes/players could stifle our offense in key moments.

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