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Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV

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Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV 

Post#21 » by jayu70 » Fri Mar 17, 2023 11:15 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:I'm curious if Hawks fans are so done with Hunter or Collins that they'd take on the massive RJB contract.

He's young with upside. And Hawks will be selling low no matter who they try to bring in...

Deandre Hunter + Bruno Fernando for RJ Barrett comes pretty close to matching salaries.

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Post#23 » by Roddy B for 3 » Sat Apr 1, 2023 11:57 am

What is Atlanta looking for in a Capella trade?
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV 

Post#24 » by Jamaaliver » Sat Apr 1, 2023 6:40 pm

Roddy B for 3 wrote:What is Atlanta looking for in a Capella trade?



Two way wings or a Big stretch-4 to pair with Okongwu.

Think Anunoby, Cam Johnson, Jeremi Grant, Bobby Portis, Porzingis.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV 

Post#25 » by King Ken » Sat Apr 1, 2023 9:15 pm

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Roddy B for 3 wrote:What is Atlanta looking for in a Capella trade?



Two way wings or a Big stretch-4 to pair with Okongwu.

Think Anunoby, Cam Johnson, Jeremi Grant, Bobby Portis, Porzingis.

I see Okongwu as a classic 4 with modern defensive tendencies. We need a stretch five who can create their own basket. Defensively, they dont have to provide too much but they have to be able to someone protect the paint. Someone that comes to mind is Sengun.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV 

Post#26 » by King Ken » Sat Apr 1, 2023 9:16 pm

Roddy B for 3 wrote:What is Atlanta looking for in a Capella trade?

Someone like Sengun makes sense for us but it would take more than Capela to get that deal done although Harden joining Houston would be a big marker for Capela
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV 

Post#27 » by King Ken » Sat Apr 1, 2023 9:18 pm

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Jamaaliver wrote:I'm curious if Hawks fans are so done with Hunter or Collins that they'd take on the massive RJB contract.

He's young with upside. And Hawks will be selling low no matter who they try to bring in...

Deandre Hunter + Bruno Fernando for RJ Barrett comes pretty close to matching salaries.

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R.J. would be a poor fit for us and many other teams. JC fits more than RJ and JC doesn't fit anymore.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV 

Post#28 » by CP War Hawks » Sat Apr 1, 2023 10:13 pm

Roddy B for 3 wrote:What is Atlanta looking for in a Capella trade?


What is Dallas offering presumably? I'd personally want draft capital and a rotation piece.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV 

Post#29 » by Jamaaliver » Sun Apr 2, 2023 3:32 pm

If Mavs tried to trade #10 pick + salary filler for Capela, we'd have to take that package, right?

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Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV 

Post#30 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Apr 3, 2023 5:40 pm

That_Casual wrote:What would need to be offered for Hawks to consider trading Murray? How many FRPs is he worth? Baring in my he has one year left on his deal.


I have to imagine a rotation player and an unprotected 1st round pick would be too enticing to ignore. Especially if that rotation player is a 3 & D wing under contract for a few years.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV 

Post#31 » by King Ken » Mon Apr 3, 2023 6:48 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:If Mavs tried to trade #10 pick + salary filler for Capela, we'd have to take that package, right?

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I understand this is a horrendously weak center class outside of Wemby who's a PF for a couple of years. But yeah, I would do this. A top 10 pick would get us closer to making a bigger trade for a better center.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV 

Post#32 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Apr 3, 2023 7:49 pm

King Ken wrote:I understand this is a horrendously weak center class outside of Wemby who's a PF for a couple of years. But yeah, I would do this. A top 10 pick would get us closer to making a bigger trade for a better center.



I gotta say, as poorly as the Pistons are constructed, they made a brilliant move cornering the market on rehabilitated, young Center prospects.

I have to imagine Jalen Duren would net a top-10 pick pretty easily from some desperate team in need of a cheap Center.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV 

Post#33 » by CP War Hawks » Mon Apr 3, 2023 9:35 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:If Mavs tried to trade #10 pick + salary filler for Capela, we'd have to take that package, right?

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Of course, I'm willing to add in pick 16 for the top ten pick if Hendrix is there.

Edit: Bertans is their only filler salary so no trade swap, maybe Hardy could be tagged with the deal. DB has two years remaining we'd probably have to eat. Hell maybe Quinn can get another career shooting year out of him and flip him at some point...
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV 

Post#34 » by King Ken » Mon Apr 3, 2023 10:14 pm

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Jamaaliver wrote:If Mavs tried to trade #10 pick + salary filler for Capela, we'd have to take that package, right?

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Of course, I'm willing to add in pick 16 for the top ten pick if Hendrix is there.

Edit: Bertans is their only filler salary so no trade swap, maybe Hardy could be tagged with the deal. DB has two years remaining we'd probably have to eat. Hell maybe Quinn can get another career shooting year out of him and flip him at some point...

Bertans contract is toxic. Tim Hardaway Jr has one year left.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV 

Post#35 » by HMFFL » Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:05 am

Jamaaliver wrote:
King Ken wrote:I understand this is a horrendously weak center class outside of Wemby who's a PF for a couple of years. But yeah, I would do this. A top 10 pick would get us closer to making a bigger trade for a better center.



I gotta say, as poorly as the Pistons are constructed, they made a brilliant move cornering the market on rehabilitated, young Center prospects.

I have to imagine Jalen Duren would net a top-10 pick pretty easily from some desperate team in need of a cheap Center.


And he's only 19 years old.

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Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV 

Post#36 » by King Ken » Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:01 am

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Jamaaliver wrote:
King Ken wrote:I understand this is a horrendously weak center class outside of Wemby who's a PF for a couple of years. But yeah, I would do this. A top 10 pick would get us closer to making a bigger trade for a better center.



I gotta say, as poorly as the Pistons are constructed, they made a brilliant move cornering the market on rehabilitated, young Center prospects.

I have to imagine Jalen Duren would net a top-10 pick pretty easily from some desperate team in need of a cheap Center.


And he's only 19 years old.

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The question is, if you are a team like Dallas, can he help you right now?
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV 

Post#37 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Apr 10, 2023 12:30 pm

King Ken wrote:
HMFFL wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:

I gotta say, as poorly as the Pistons are constructed, they made a brilliant move cornering the market on rehabilitated, young Center prospects.

I have to imagine Jalen Duren would net a top-10 pick pretty easily from some desperate team in need of a cheap Center.


And he's only 19 years old.


The question is, if you are a team like Dallas, can he help you right now?



That is a good question. I imagine he's as close as any 19 year old rookie will be from this draft class...

I wonder if Dallas would prefer an established Center like Capela or an up-and-coming star like Onyeka. :eek2:
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV 

Post#38 » by King Ken » Mon Apr 10, 2023 2:09 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
King Ken wrote:
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And he's only 19 years old.


The question is, if you are a team like Dallas, can he help you right now?



That is a good question. I imagine he's as close as any 19 year old rookie will be from this draft class...

I wonder if Dallas would prefer an established Center like Capela or an up-and-coming star like Onyeka. :eek2:

Unless Dallas is willing to trade Luka, I can't see anyway we trade Okongwu and that said, we wouldn't want to either as without Okongwu, we really aren't that much different his pre Kyrie trade Mav squads. We need Okongwu if we want to win big.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV 

Post#39 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Apr 10, 2023 2:29 pm

King Ken wrote:Unless Dallas is willing to trade Luka, I can't see anyway we trade Okongwu and that said, we wouldn't want to either as without Okongwu, we really aren't that much different his pre Kyrie trade Mav squads. We need Okongwu if we want to win big.


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We're 84-80 over the last 2 years.

No one should be off limits for the right package.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV 

Post#40 » by King Ken » Mon Apr 10, 2023 2:38 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
King Ken wrote:Unless Dallas is willing to trade Luka, I can't see anyway we trade Okongwu and that said, we wouldn't want to either as without Okongwu, we really aren't that much different his pre Kyrie trade Mav squads. We need Okongwu if we want to win big.


:dontknow:

We're 84-80 over the last 2 years.

No one should be off limits for the right package.

That's has nothing to do with him. He's a role player, not a star. That said, you need role players like him if you are a contending squad.

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