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Hawks -- State of the Franchise

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Re: Hawks -- State of the Franchise 

Post#141 » by Jamaaliver » Thu Apr 11, 2024 5:26 pm

Quin, when he hears we're underdogs in that Hawks-Bulls matchup next week:

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Re: Hawks -- State of the Franchise 

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Re: Hawks -- State of the Franchise 

Post#143 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Apr 16, 2024 1:38 pm

Final Report Cards for Each NBA Team

Atlanta Hawks: D+

Record: 36-46
Preseason Over-Under: 42.5

The lasting impression from this Atlanta Hawks campaign will almost certainly be the lack of effectiveness from Trae Young-Dejounte Murray lineups.

Many (including yours truly) were convinced that a full training camp with coach Quin Snyder and a little more time for Young and Murray to adapt to each other might make the backcourt jell. But it just didn't.

In fact, the combination was worse this season. When they shared the floor, Atlanta was minus-4.7 points per 100 possessions. It was minus-0.8 when Murray played without Young, and plus-4.0 when Young played without Murray.

And thanks to a late-season surge without the injured Young, the team finished 14-14 in games he missed. It was 22-32 when he was in the lineup.

That's almost certainly going to lead to trade rumors surrounding both guards this summer, and given Young's age (25) and individual production, he'd likely fetch the Hawks the bigger return.

This season wasn't all bad, though. One player who almost certainly won't generate trade speculation this summer is Jalen Johnson, who broke out with 16.0 points, 8.7 rebounds and 3.6 assists, is just 22 and looks ready for a three-and-D-plus role going forward.

And with him, Onyeka Okongwu and whatever Atlanta can command for Young and Murray, the Hawks might actually have a decent foundation for a rebuild going forward.
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Re: Hawks -- State of the Franchise 

Post#144 » by tbhawksfan1 » Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:32 am

Jamaaliver wrote:
Final Report Cards for Each NBA Team

Atlanta Hawks: D+

Record: 36-46
Preseason Over-Under: 42.5

The lasting impression from this Atlanta Hawks campaign will almost certainly be the lack of effectiveness from Trae Young-Dejounte Murray lineups.

Many (including yours truly) were convinced that a full training camp with coach Quin Snyder and a little more time for Young and Murray to adapt to each other might make the backcourt jell. But it just didn't.

In fact, the combination was worse this season. When they shared the floor, Atlanta was minus-4.7 points per 100 possessions. It was minus-0.8 when Murray played without Young, and plus-4.0 when Young played without Murray.

And thanks to a late-season surge without the injured Young, the team finished 14-14 in games he missed. It was 22-32 when he was in the lineup.

That's almost certainly going to lead to trade rumors surrounding both guards this summer, and given Young's age (25) and individual production, he'd likely fetch the Hawks the bigger return.

This season wasn't all bad, though. One player who almost certainly won't generate trade speculation this summer is Jalen Johnson, who broke out with 16.0 points, 8.7 rebounds and 3.6 assists, is just 22 and looks ready for a three-and-D-plus role going forward.

And with him, Onyeka Okongwu and whatever Atlanta can command for Young and Murray, the Hawks might actually have a decent foundation for a rebuild going forward.
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Eh... who's going to tell them that we traded away 3 years of our future FRPs starting next season.

Unless SA really wants Trae; no rebuild. I think that they will keep cah cow Trae and move Murray to give the illusion of doing something. Won't help though. Hawks don't have a path to big improvement unless JJ becomes Tatum like and we find an offensively competant C
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Re: Hawks -- State of the Franchise 

Post#145 » by Jamaaliver » Thu Apr 18, 2024 6:29 pm

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Re: Hawks -- State of the Franchise 

Post#146 » by Geaux_Hawks » Thu Apr 18, 2024 10:38 pm

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Crazy part about this, is that we never got the star player we have now to build around, yet we still found a way by acquiring the right talents and eventually a quality HC. I think we have the coach part down, but need the FO to acquire the talents now.

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