Doc Rivers Returning Next Season (Update)

[PierceFan4ever]

gary washburn ‏@GwashNBAGlobe

Danny Ainge confirms that Doc Rivers is returning next season as #celtics coach. "We've got a coach everybody would love to have."

Thoughts?

[PP 4 Three]

Wasn't any question IMO, no way was he leaving. I don't think this has any impact on whether KG or PP will be brought back.

[SuperDeluxe]

This is great news, thanks for posting.

Wasn't any question IMO, no way was he leaving. I don't think this has any impact on whether KG or PP will be brought back.

I can almost guarantee you that KG will retire as soon as Doc Rivers decides to leave the Celtics.

[15th overall]

Fantastic. I'm really hoping we can use Doc to recruit a major FA before he calls it a wrap.

Thanks for posting this.

[2Mas]

Good, but we knew this. Whoever said this doesn't affect PP or KG is flat out WRONG.

But mroe importantly, we need a good offense assistant. Some one who can change up the offense a little bit.
but that 1 bring back the band guy man. 2 more players left.

[PP 4 Three]

This is great news, thanks for posting.

Wasn't any question IMO, no way was he leaving. I don't think this has any impact on whether KG or PP will be brought back.

I can almost guarantee you that KG will retire as soon as Doc Rivers decides to leave the Celtics.

Your point? I doubt this decision has any impact on whether Danny will keep Pierce or trade/buy him out. And we know KG is gone if Pierce is gone.

[ddb]

Danny Ainge said on record that he expected KG and Doc back. Said he had a difficult decision to make on Paul Pierce. So Doc is back. Next up is KG. I also expect Pierce back too. Just doesn't make sense to move him unless a great deal comes along. Rondo/Sully/16th pick will be in Celtics uniforms next season along with HOPEFULLY an addition or two by way of trade or S/T.

I still think Josh Smith ends up in Boston. I heard it last summer and obviously it was close to happening at the trade deadline. I think Ainge feels like if he can turn Pierce/etc into Josh Smith then it's a move he does AS LONG as Smith agrees to a deal well below the MAX. I also think it's still in play to see Green/Lee or Green/Bass moved in a S/T for Josh Smith. And after thinking long and hard about it....I do that deal for 2 reasons.

1- As much as I love Green on some nights. I hate him just has much on others. when he defers, he stinks because he doesn't bring other Smith-like elements such as Rebounding, shot blocking, defense and playmaking. I really, really think people UNDERESTIMATE how much of a difference maker Josh Smith is. If he's put into an environment where Doc's Coach, KG/Rondo are in his ear making sure he's motivated then I think you're getting an All-Star player. A guy who will give you 16ppg 9rpg 3.5apg 2bpg and 2spg. That's the jack of all trades this team needs. Jeff Green grew on me. He did. But what is he? To me he's a guy who can average 18-20ppg on a bad team or 12-14 on a good team. He'll show up some nights, vanish on others.

2. The Rondo effect. If Rondo is staying in Boston and Ainge plans on building WITH Rondo then a great start to that is bringing in his best friend to a 5 year deal. That all but locks in Rondo to resign with Boston once KG/PP are long gone. If you're a star player who's a free agent aren't you interested in playing with Rondo/Smith? That's appealing.

[SuperDeluxe]

This is great news, thanks for posting.

Wasn't any question IMO, no way was he leaving. I don't think this has any impact on whether KG or PP will be brought back.

I can almost guarantee you that KG will retire as soon as Doc Rivers decides to leave the Celtics.

Your point? I doubt this decision has any impact on whether Danny will keep Pierce or trade/buy him out. And we know KG is gone if Pierce is gone.

I will give you another chance to read my post before I explain it (which would make you look really stupid).

[Bluewhale]

So we are going to have another run. We are not tanking next season.

[sully00]

Well Doc leaving would mean we had all kinds of problems I don't think Doc coming back means we are keeping the band together.

I love Paul Pierce and I am fine if that is what they decide to do but I just don't see it from the money side. Unless they can get Paul to go for the buyout and then either sign for the bi annual or vet minimum this team can't add any help without subtracting from the roster and that isn't going to get KG and Paul any closer to another title.

[PP 4 Three]

This is great news, thanks for posting.


I can almost guarantee you that KG will retire as soon as Doc Rivers decides to leave the Celtics.

Your point? I doubt this decision has any impact on whether Danny will keep Pierce or trade/buy him out. And we know KG is gone if Pierce is gone.

I will give you another chance to read my post before I explain it (which would make you look really stupid).

I could care less about your post, it is irrelevant to mine. My point was that Danny isn't going to base his decisions on keeping Pierce and KG on whether or not Doc is back. If he feels it's time to rebuild, he'll do it regardless of the coach.

KG retiring when Doc leaves is literally not relevant to anything I said (Or this thread considering it's confirmed that Doc IS back, so who gives a **** what KG would do if he wasn't).

[SuperDeluxe]

Your point? I doubt this decision has any impact on whether Danny will keep Pierce or trade/buy him out. And we know KG is gone if Pierce is gone.

I will give you another chance to read my post before I explain it (which would make you look really stupid).

I could care less about your post, it is irrelevant to mine.

It looks like you need to be taken by the hand after all. Here's your explanation, step by step:

1) Let's say that hypothetically Doc decides not to return.
2) Danny Ainge still has a decision to make regarding Paul Pierce.
3) It is rumoured that KG will not return if Pierce is not here next year.

HOWEVER, the important thing is that KG has said many times that he will not play for any coach other than Doc Rivers. This basically makes points 2 and 3 moot. Danny Ainge can bring Paul Pierce back (and even build a shrine for him in Copley Square), yet that won't be enough to make KG return.

I hope this time it was more clear, PP 4 Three. I apologize for being ambiguous in my previous posts. My bad.

[PP 4 Three]

I will give you another chance to read my post before I explain it (which would make you look really stupid).

I could care less about your post, it is irrelevant to mine.

It looks like you need to be taken by the hand after all. Here's your explanation, step by step:

1) Let's say that hypothetically Doc decides not to return.
2) Danny Ainge still has a decision to make regarding Paul Pierce.
3) It is rumoured that KG will not return if Pierce is not here next year.

HOWEVER, the important thing is that KG has said many times that he will not play for any coach other than Doc Rivers. This basically makes points 2 and 3 moot. Danny Ainge can bring Paul Pierce back (and even build a shrine for him in Copley Square), yet that won't be enough to make KG return.

I hope this time it was more clear, PP 4 Three. I apologize for being ambiguous in my previous posts. My bad.

And now explain why any of this is relevant to my initial post and/or why I would care about any of this? Doc is confirmed to be back, so this is all moot. As I said initially, Doc being back does not confirm that KG or PP will be back next season. Don't see why you would quote me about something and proceed to discuss hypothetical scenarios that have nothing to do with what I said.

[SuperDeluxe]

As I said initially, Doc being back does not confirm that KG or PP will be back next season.

Of course it does not confirm it. However, if Doc had decided NOT to return, that would've basically meant that KG was gone as well. If you don't think that's relevant, then I don't know what relevant is.

I think I've wasted too much of my time walking you today. I'm out.

[ddb]

Rondo, Bradley, Pierce, Smith, Garnett
Ridnour, Terry,Korver, Sully
Dieng,Twill, Shav
Barbosa (bring him along slowly)

How this happens:

-Green/Bass/Melo/Crawford (Hawks decline team option on Crawford) for Josh Smith in S/T
-draft one of Dieng/Withey/Plumlee
-Trade Courtney Lee to Minny for Luke Ridnour
-If Celts are eligable for MLE SIGN Korver!! Celts need another shooter. Korver knocks down 45%!! He'd give us the Ray Allen effect of having a decoy/a quick release and consistent 3 ball. spaces the floor. Plan B would be Martell Webster, Dorell Wright or Chase Budinger.

Garnett wants help in the frontcourt? Okay, Josh Smith is the help. He'll give you 8-9.5 rpg. 2 bpg. plays above the RIM and can guard 4's/3's.
Sully being back and healthy is a big boost as well. I think if anything Bass is in the way of Sully's development. Can't have both guys on the team IMO. Sully has more upside. He can rebound, score on the block. his J is decent from 12-15 feet. I see Sully taking big strides in his development this season.
Drafting Dieng gives you a young, athletic, active big who'll be a bit raw offensively and may get in rookie foul trouble, but I guarantee you he'll be better then Wilcox/Jason Collins.

THAT my friends is a team you go to war with in the East Conf. Watching these playoffs I can't help but wonder what a healthy Celts team like the 1 above is capable of. Miami is awesome. No doubt about it. But Wade is beat up, Bosh is nothing special... Celtics would have a shot in the East at getting back to the finals. and if they don't? make hte deals at the trade deadline when Pierce has value to contenders with his expiring contract. KG waives his no trade if Pierce is gone. Terry would only have 1 year left on his deal making him moveable.

To me it's a bullet proof plan. Get it done Danny

[smith2373]

Ugh.

[PP 4 Three]

As I said initially, Doc being back does not confirm that KG or PP will be back next season.

Of course it does not confirm it. However, if Doc had decided NOT to return, that would've basically meant that KG was gone as well. If you don't think that's relevant, then I don't know what relevant is.

I think I've wasted too much of my time walking you today. I'm out.

It is completely irrelevant to my post. It's laughable to me that you don't understand that. I never once mentioned anything about what would happen if Doc didn't return (particularly because it doesn't matter, consider he DID return), so why the **** would you quote me discussing a scenario I never once mentioned? Explain that to me oh wise one...

[SuperDeluxe]

As I said initially, Doc being back does not confirm that KG or PP will be back next season.

Of course it does not confirm it. However, if Doc had decided NOT to return, that would've basically meant that KG was gone as well. If you don't think that's relevant, then I don't know what relevant is.

I think I've wasted too much of my time walking you today. I'm out.

It is completely irrelevant to my post. It's laughable to me that you don't understand that. I never once mentioned anything about what would happen if Doc didn't return (particularly because it doesn't matter, consider he DID return), so why the **** would you quote me discussion a scenario I never once mentioned? Explain that to me oh wise one...

I've just given you an And-1 for your post, it made me laugh. Still not enough to cure my headache, though.

[PP 4 Three]

Of course it does not confirm it. However, if Doc had decided NOT to return, that would've basically meant that KG was gone as well. If you don't think that's relevant, then I don't know what relevant is.

I think I've wasted too much of my time walking you today. I'm out.

It is completely irrelevant to my post. It's laughable to me that you don't understand that. I never once mentioned anything about what would happen if Doc didn't return (particularly because it doesn't matter, consider he DID return), so why the **** would you quote me discussion a scenario I never once mentioned? Explain that to me oh wise one...

I've just given you an And-1 for your post, it made me laugh. Still not enough to cure my headache, though.

No explanation? Why don't you "walk" me through this one too?

I find it funny you just can't admit you misunderstood my post and responded with a completely irrelevant hypothetical that had nothing to do with what I said. A retired mod with 12000+ posts is too immature to admit when they're wrong?

[CelticFaninLBC]

Rondo, Bradley, Pierce, Smith, Garnett
Ridnour, Terry,Korver, Sully
Dieng,Twill, Shav
Barbosa (bring him along slowly)

How this happens:

-Green/Bass/Melo/Crawford (Hawks decline team option on Crawford) for Josh Smith in S/T
-draft one of Dieng/Withey/Plumlee
-Trade Courtney Lee to Minny for Luke Ridnour
-If Celts are eligable for MLE SIGN Korver!! Celts need another shooter. Korver knocks down 45%!! He'd give us the Ray Allen effect of having a decoy/a quick release and consistent 3 ball. spaces the floor. Plan B would be Martell Webster, Dorell Wright or Chase Budinger.

Garnett wants help in the frontcourt? Okay, Josh Smith is the help. He'll give you 8-9.5 rpg. 2 bpg. plays above the RIM and can guard 4's/3's.
Sully being back and healthy is a big boost as well. I think if anything Bass is in the way of Sully's development. Can't have both guys on the team IMO. Sully has more upside. He can rebound, score on the block. his J is decent from 12-15 feet. I see Sully taking big strides in his development this season.
Drafting Dieng gives you a young, athletic, active big who'll be a bit raw offensively and may get in rookie foul trouble, but I guarantee you he'll be better then Wilcox/Jason Collins.

THAT my friends is a team you go to war with in the East Conf. Watching these playoffs I can't help but wonder what a healthy Celts team like the 1 above is capable of. Miami is awesome. No doubt about it. But Wade is beat up, Bosh is nothing special... Celtics would have a shot in the East at getting back to the finals. and if they don't? make hte deals at the trade deadline when Pierce has value to contenders with his expiring contract. KG waives his no trade if Pierce is gone. Terry would only have 1 year left on his deal making him moveable.

To me it's a bullet proof plan. Get it done Danny

That team's bounced in the 2nd round, if not 1st.