The Official Off-Season Thread, part I of many
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So we can basically bring back all our free agents(minus Turner) and have the room to being in one max player(if im reading that right) well thats comforting
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Afam wrote:Celtics are not the second best team in the east. It still the Cavs and the Raptors. Maybe the Pacers. I put the Celtics around 4 or 5.
I disagree. Cavs and likely raptors, but I think by end of summer with even decent signings we can be 3 and push Toronto. If we get Horford, and only Horford, we are probably No. 2 in East.
We ain't that far away.
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This is a big offseason for Smart. He is a seemingly intelligent person who shows a good amount of focus. In his first two seasons he has put up a lot of poor quality shots, and he needs to focus on being more efficient. The key with Smart is that he doesn't have to be a number one, two, or maybe even three offensive option on a team to be a great player. He has an enormous impact on defense, and he makes so many positive plays. He needs to focus on getting in the paint, and moving the ball more.
I think he is going to take a Olynyk style of shooting three pointers next season. If he is wide open he will take them, but if someone comes remotely close to him he will pump fake and drive. I would love it if he worked with IT on driving to the basket, and he learned how to use his body to create space down low. I love Smart's determination, and that he really wants to be great. Hopefully this is the point in his career where everything really slows down for him, and he stops trying to force his offense.
I think he is going to take a Olynyk style of shooting three pointers next season. If he is wide open he will take them, but if someone comes remotely close to him he will pump fake and drive. I would love it if he worked with IT on driving to the basket, and he learned how to use his body to create space down low. I love Smart's determination, and that he really wants to be great. Hopefully this is the point in his career where everything really slows down for him, and he stops trying to force his offense.
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Crossy2008 wrote:This is a big offseason for Smart. He is a seemingly intelligent person who shows a good amount of focus. In his first two seasons he has put up a lot of poor quality shots, and he needs to focus on being more efficient. The key with Smart is that he doesn't have to be a number one, two, or maybe even three offensive option on a team to be a great player. He has an enormous impact on defense, and he makes so many positive plays. He needs to focus on getting in the paint, and moving the ball more.
I think he is going to take a Olynyk style of shooting three pointers next season. If he is wide open he will take them, but if someone comes remotely close to him he will pump fake and drive. I would love it if he worked with IT on driving to the basket, and he learned how to use his body to create space down low. I love Smart's determination, and that he really wants to be great. Hopefully this is the point in his career where everything really slows down for him, and he stops trying to force his offense.
Hope he can stay healthy for a whole year too. He'd show flashes of getting somewhere, then get injured. Come back, take longer than you'd hope to get back on track, then get injured again.
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BakersDozen wrote:So we can basically bring back all our free agents(minus Turner) and have the room to being in one max player(if im reading that right) well thats comforting
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Sully, Zeller and ET are all gone they won't be back.
Let's see, Yabusele at $1.5 million or Sully at $8-10 million. I think that is an easy choice.
Yabusele as Sully's replacement is last choice. Ainge will be active for big men not named Sullinger and Zeller.
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Celts17Pride wrote:BakersDozen wrote:So we can basically bring back all our free agents(minus Turner) and have the room to being in one max player(if im reading that right) well thats comforting
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Sully, Zeller and ET are all gone they won't be back.
Let's see, Yabusele at $1.5 million or Sully at $8-10 million. I think that is an easy choice.
Yabusele as Sully's replacement is last choice. Ainge will be active for big men not named Sullinger and Zeller.
We should just like Sully and Zelly and like our international replacements get some burn. Seem like an easy choice to me.
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So, Danny needs to be at Durant´s door while half of the Celtics staff must go pay a visit to Horford. We need to try our hardest to get Horford first. I think I´ve read somewhere that AL had interest in us previously...am I wrong?
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Bohemian wrote:So, Danny needs to be at Durant´s door while half of the Celtics staff must go pay a visit to Horford. We need to try our hardest to get Horford first. I think I´ve read somewhere that AL had interest in us previously...am I wrong?
He said something about playing somewhere with a strong Dominican population. Boston certainly has that. Not sure how impressed he is with our team after beating us, but adding him and Durant plus the rooks might be a decent situation for him.
Problem here is Horford alone isn't a great move for us, I think. Adding him as a precursor to adding Durant is great. Seemed like last year Phoenix had this type of move in mind when they signed Chandler and it fell through, so I would be a little concerned about just getting Horford. Maybe I am wrong and Horford would be great even if we just got him.
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BakersDozen wrote:So we can basically bring back all our free agents(minus Turner) and have the room to being in one max player(if im reading that right) well thats comforting
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Chart was misleading in the sense that it was just cap holds for Sully and Zeller. We'd still have to match offers on those guys, and... umm... no thanks on that.
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Celts17Pride wrote:BakersDozen wrote:So we can basically bring back all our free agents(minus Turner) and have the room to being in one max player(if im reading that right) well thats comforting
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Sully, Zeller and ET are all gone they won't be back.
Let's see, Yabusele at $1.5 million or Sully at $8-10 million. I think that is an easy choice.
Yabusele as Sully's replacement is last choice. Ainge will be active for big men not named Sullinger and Zeller.
Yabusele is a likely stash, I think. Still wouldn't resign Sully lol.
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How bad is Parsons injury issues? I think id prefer him to say someone like Barnes.
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BakersDozen wrote:So we can basically bring back all our free agents(minus Turner) and have the room to being in one max player(if im reading that right) well thats comforting
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The chart shows the amount of cap space we can use on FAs other than our own depending on whether we renounce/release our own players or not. The figures only account for Sully and Zeller's cap holds, not the actual salary we have to pay to retain them.
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CrowderKeg wrote:BakersDozen wrote:So we can basically bring back all our free agents(minus Turner) and have the room to being in one max player(if im reading that right) well thats comforting
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The chart shows the amount of cap space we can use on FAs other than our own depending on whether we renounce/release our own players or not. The figures only account for Sully and Zeller's cap holds, not the actual salary we have to pay to retain them.
I'll be absolutely shocked if anybody gives Sullinger or Zeller anything more than a vet min contract. Both guys are just flat out ****. Zeller shouldn't even be in the league.
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BRUNiNHO91 wrote:CrowderKeg wrote:BakersDozen wrote:So we can basically bring back all our free agents(minus Turner) and have the room to being in one max player(if im reading that right) well thats comforting
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The chart shows the amount of cap space we can use on FAs other than our own depending on whether we renounce/release our own players or not. The figures only account for Sully and Zeller's cap holds, not the actual salary we have to pay to retain them.
I'll be absolutely shocked if anybody gives Sullinger or Zeller anything more than a vet min contract. Both guys are just flat out ****. Zeller shouldn't even be in the league.
I think we are all going to be shocked by just how much the Zeller's of the league get. There are going to be a lot of teams left alone at the dance once the big free agents sign. At that point it'll be landslide of head scratching contracts being given out.
Welcome to the new NBA salary cap!
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I'll put my neck out there and predict Zeller gets something like $7M AAV and Sully gets $12M AAV.
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Cornbread wrote:I'll put my neck out there and predict Zeller gets something like $7M AAV and Sully gets $12M AAV.
Good gosh that would be awful. What would Evan Turner get then? 20 mil per?
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Smart shot mechanics ****, I have no faith in his learning on how to shoot consistently
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So if they max Horford, but don't bring back Turner, Sully, Zeller and Johnson, and whiff on other big name free agents, is this a 50 win team?
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CelticFaninLBC wrote:So if they max Horford, but don't bring back Turner, Sully, Zeller and Johnson, and whiff on other big name free agents, is this a 50 win team?
I would believe so.
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Marley2Hendrix wrote:CelticFaninLBC wrote:So if they max Horford, but don't bring back Turner, Sully, Zeller and Johnson, and whiff on other big name free agents, is this a 50 win team?
I would believe so.
Assuming they bring back Jerebko, and he starts @ the 4, the bench is Olynyk, Mickey, Brown, Smart, Hunter and Rozier. They'll need a bring jump from Smart and Rozier to push beyond 50 wins. I guess they could bring back AJ on a larger 1 & 1 deal, if they don't trust Mickey.