BostonCouchGM wrote:BRUNiNHO91 wrote:BostonCouchGM wrote:this happens all the time. Of course Ime's guys would follow him. Had he immediately gotten a job elsewhere last season they would have left then. But he didn't and they still needed jobs so they stayed. This isn't an indictment on Brad or Joe. All of these guys are intertwined and have worked together for years at different stops. It's up to Joe to find his own guys he trusts and thankfully he has all off-season to do so instead of being blind-sided like last year. Joe should get more credit for how he was able to withstand all that turmoil and STILL win more games than either Brad or Ime ever did in a regular season and for getting to Game 7 of the ECF. Instead, the dumbest fans in sports actually want him fired.
Oh stop it. Brad never had the talent this guy did, except the year Kyrie decided to shoot our season into the **** sun. Ime also didn’t have the roster he had. This was the best roster Boston has put together since they won it in 08. The only reason we are not playing in the finals right now is because this dude lost the locker room in a horrific way with his stupid offense BS. Dude was clowned by Brogdon, he was clowned by Smart who kept saying ‘he’s learning’ on basically every interview..he was clowned by Tatum when he said he was relieved Rob got back into the starting line up. All through the playoffs his own players threw little subtle hints that the man was hot garbage. He criminally misused his roster. Played Hauser all year over Grant and when things went south he ran to Grant to save his ass and threw Hauser in the trash. Only started taking timeouts properly when we went down 3-0 in the ECF. Like I could go on forever. Drop coverage on Miami?? Just gross.
Dude should have been fired before he even got to his hotel in Miami after game 3. Better yet, he should have never been hired in the first place.
Btw If Smart, Brown, Tatum, Brogdon etc could do what the coaches did and leave to go with Ime, they would also. It’s pretty clear nobody actually likes this dude. If the assistant coach hire isn’t absolutely perfect, we will die another slow death at the hands of this arrogant loser next year.
good Lord. These takes are embarrassing lmao.
Brad didn't have this much talent? lol wut? Nonsense
2017-Kyrie, Horford, Jaylen, Smart, Rozier, Morris, Tatum, Theis, Baynes
2018-Kyrie, Horford, Jaylen, Smart, Hayward, Rozier, Morris, Tatum, Theis, Baynes, Timelord
2019-Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Walker, Smart, Theis, Kanter, Timelord
two out of three of those seasons we went to the ECF. #1 defense in the league in 2017 and #2 in 2019. We were plenty talented.
let's spell this out as succinct as possible. The only difference between last season's Ime team and this season was that we acquired Brogdon. So yeah, on paper we'd have a more talented roster. But guess what? Brogdon wasn't healthy and essentially useless in the ECF. Combined with Tatum being injured Game 7 and Horford being a year older, we actually didn't have more talent than last year by the time we got to the ECF. Healthy, we barely beat a bunch of gimped teams and were a Butler three from not going to the Finals under Ime. You people are hilarious.
Gotta say I agree with a lot of what BCGM says here - for once.
The loss to Miami was awful and with better coaching we probably are tied 1-1 instead of down 0-2. That said, the team did come back down 0-3 by winning 2 road games. Unfortunately, when you dig that big a hole it is not at all shocking that you would have 1 game that goes south as quickly as game 7. Not making excuses, but I’m not going to suggest blowing up the team either just because that loss was a kick in the nuts.
Joe is a question mark going forward because anybody can see he is a weird dude and doesn’t have the personality that Ime, Brad and Doc did before him. He did a good job this year - better than Ime in my opinion - but can he maintain trust of the team over more than 1 season? The defection of 3 coaches is a warning sign to be sure but they were Ime’s guys to start with and Joe never was, so who can say.
We overrated last year’s team because they had a nice 30 game run and we overrated this year’s team because they were ‘historic’ on offense …..until they weren’t anymore. They do have a core that has shown an ability to win at a high level but they have so far fallen short. They are getting the same criticisms Lebron got up until his second year in Miami when he finally won a title. To keep it going they need to replace what Al brings because he is beginning to age out.
