ImageImageImage

2024 NBA Draft Thread

Moderators: bisme37, canman1971, Darthlukey, Shak_Celts, Froob, Parliament10, shackles10, snowman

brackdan70
RealGM
Posts: 13,190
And1: 8,492
Joined: Jul 15, 2013
Location: Ogden, UT
     

Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#821 » by brackdan70 » Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:27 pm

Dillon Jones out of my local school Weber State has some intrigue. Jae Crowder vibes but a much better rebounder. Seeing him mocked where the Cs could get him…
I wouldn’t pick him at 30 I don’t think but with a 2nd maybe.
Sign here
djFan71
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 11,894
And1: 17,304
Joined: Jul 24, 2010
 

Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#822 » by djFan71 » Wed Feb 28, 2024 12:13 am

brackdan70 wrote:Dillon Jones out of my local school Weber State has some intrigue. Jae Crowder vibes but a much better rebounder. Seeing him mocked where the Cs could get him…
I wouldn’t pick him at 30 I don’t think but with a 2nd maybe.

He's on my radar as well. Wouldn't even hate him at 30, depending on who else is left. I kinda like him, Proctor (or McCain), Oso in our range so far. Dunn if he lasts that long. Still compiling my list.
djFan71
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 11,894
And1: 17,304
Joined: Jul 24, 2010
 

Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#823 » by djFan71 » Wed Feb 28, 2024 6:11 am

NGL, I like the winning and all, but I kinda miss having other team's picks and rooting against them.
Hal14
RealGM
Posts: 19,123
And1: 17,211
Joined: Apr 05, 2019

Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#824 » by Hal14 » Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:33 pm

brackdan70 wrote:
shackles10 wrote:
165bows wrote:Bronny James getting mocked at 39 is perfect. Not too high to be ridiculous but high enough that when he gets taken just outside the lottery it’s “hey that’s not too bad a reach he was mocked at 39!!”


Maybe a typo, but the article said "2025" so are they predicting he'll have to play another year just to make it to 39th or simply a typo?

That seems like not a typo . He really isn’t very good. Staying another year would be good for him unless he doesn’t improve.

Yeah Bronny has not been very good. Not NBA-ready so ESPN is predicting he will return to college and try for the 2025 draft..
1/11/24 The birth of a new Hal. From now on being less combative, avoiding confrontation - like Switzerland :)
User avatar
Celts17Pride
RealGM
Posts: 64,095
And1: 63,349
Joined: Nov 27, 2005

Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#825 » by Celts17Pride » Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:51 pm

So is Brad Stevens going to trade down and get 2 or 3 future 2nd round picks?
brackdan70
RealGM
Posts: 13,190
And1: 8,492
Joined: Jul 15, 2013
Location: Ogden, UT
     

Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#826 » by brackdan70 » Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:04 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:So is Brad Stevens going to trade down and get 2 or 3 future 2nd round picks?

That’s my bet
Sign here
User avatar
165bows
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 18,950
And1: 11,577
Joined: Jan 03, 2013
Location: The land of incremental improvement.

Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#827 » by 165bows » Thu Feb 29, 2024 4:06 pm

Trey Alexander, 6'4" combo guard (6'10" wingspan) from Creighton, also Mike Conley's cousin.

Kyshawn George, 6'8" guard/wing out of Miami, seems a little like a Dalano Banton kind of player. Sort of the youngish (he's an older freshman) toolsy kind of guy they've focused on the last couple years.

Couple names I haven't seen mentioned that are getting slotted into mock drafts in the early 30s.
Homerclease
RealGM
Posts: 29,948
And1: 31,632
Joined: Dec 09, 2015

Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#828 » by Homerclease » Thu Feb 29, 2024 4:12 pm

Adem Bona still my guy as a Rob Williams type replacement. Most mocks have him falling to the late first now for some reason but I’d be elated with him at 30
playa-hater
RealGM
Posts: 17,287
And1: 18,806
Joined: Aug 29, 2020
 

Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#829 » by playa-hater » Thu Feb 29, 2024 5:43 pm

Well at least I can pretend that we might actually draft a 1st rd pick this year. I think the last one we drafted was.... Desmond Bane :o :-?

A young "big Wing" (always happy for another Walsh-GG Jackson type)
A Big PG to eventually replace Jrue (no more small PGs please)
a 3-4 or 4-5 multi-position player.

Not that this coach will actually play anyone for years.... but.. I can dream...
SHOOTERS SHOOTER SHOOTERS
brackdan70
RealGM
Posts: 13,190
And1: 8,492
Joined: Jul 15, 2013
Location: Ogden, UT
     

Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#830 » by brackdan70 » Thu Feb 29, 2024 6:12 pm

Homerclease wrote:Adem Bona still my guy as a Rob Williams type replacement. Most mocks have him falling to the late first now for some reason but I’d be elated with him at 30

Yeah I really like him as well. Amazing potential for late first.
Sign here
playa-hater
RealGM
Posts: 17,287
And1: 18,806
Joined: Aug 29, 2020
 

Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#831 » by playa-hater » Thu Feb 29, 2024 7:02 pm

How about Zach Eddy? it used to be centers like Zach can't guard outside etc.. But we do almost nothing but Drop Coverage anyway. Plus Zach is monstrous at everything else.

Thoughts??
SHOOTERS SHOOTER SHOOTERS
brackdan70
RealGM
Posts: 13,190
And1: 8,492
Joined: Jul 15, 2013
Location: Ogden, UT
     

Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#832 » by brackdan70 » Thu Feb 29, 2024 7:13 pm

playa-hater wrote:How about Zach Eddy? it used be centers like Zach can't guard outside etc.. But we do almost nothing but Drop Coverage anyway. Plus Zach is monstrous at everything else.

Thoughts??

We definitely need more 7’3 guys so I’m down.
I personally like guys to be a bit more mobile though, but I’d consider him at 30 or if we trade into the 2nd. I like Bona, Dillon Jones a bit more.
Sign here
Homerclease
RealGM
Posts: 29,948
And1: 31,632
Joined: Dec 09, 2015

Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#833 » by Homerclease » Thu Feb 29, 2024 9:16 pm

Read on Twitter
?s=46&t=2r3K1qCL2UmIu9zb8OVdDw

Ok, new number 1 contender for our pick
Hal14
RealGM
Posts: 19,123
And1: 17,211
Joined: Apr 05, 2019

Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#834 » by Hal14 » Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:49 pm

One way to look at it is ask yourself, who is in our player development pipeline and what type of player could we use more of in that pipeline?

I consider player development pipeline to be guys currently in the 1st or 2nd season and/or guys on a 2-way with us..we can also count draft and stash guys as well, I guess.

For fun, I'll even rank them (loosely) in order of how much the Celtics are likely prioritizing their development and how much each player is factored in to our long term plans:

Tier 1: Walsh (defensive minded big wing), Springer (defensive minded combo-guard) who are both under contract for next season, both have legit talent and both are still young, age 19 and 21 respectively
Tier 2: Queta (rim runner big). RFA this summer. Age 24 so not a ton of development left to be done here
Tier 3: Davison (PG), Peterson (shooting, playmaking wing). Both are RFA this summer. JD is a few yrs younger (21, whereas Peterson is 24) but Peterson has a skillset where it's an easier fit to plug him into an NBA rotation
Tier 4: Madar (PG) and Begarin (wing). Both seem to be long shots to make it over to Boston

The thing that stands out to me when I look at this, is we have lots of guards and wings but not many bigs. The only big in the pipeline is a 24 year old guy on a 2-way who doesn't have a contract for next season - and is a non-shooter so perhaps we could target a big who can shoot? Especially since we added Tillman who isn't much of a shooter and Kornet doesn't shoot anymore.

If I'm brad, I'm thinking "what guys who can play PF and/or C and can shoot could possibly be available at pick 30 (or in the 2nd round if we trade pick 30) ?

After all, you look at the guys on our team during Mazzulla's tenure who are younger, less experienced players who have been able to earn consistent rotation mins as solid role players - you see Pritchard, Hauser and Grant Williams. Those are the last 3 guys Boston has drafted who have been able to be solid role players. All 3 of them, the main thing they have brought to the table has been shooting.

Kel'El Ware - I think he can shoot. But he's taking a pretty low volume of 3's this season and the FT% isn't good. So he's not a "shooter" per se. Also, there's a good chance he'll be off the board before we pick. But someone to have on the radar, nonetheless.

Tyler Smith - also a guy who is being mocked a little bit high. Seems like he's projected in like the 16-23 range. But maybe he falls to us at pick 30 if we stay there. He's a stretch 4 who can probably play some small ball 5. 6'10/6'11 guy who can shoot it well. Defense and playmaking are meh. But he's young, has size and can shoot so definitely worth a 1st round pick, imo

PJ Hall - this guy might be my number 1 target at this point, in terms of a) fitting the profile of what I think we should be looking for and b) being a guy with a high probability of being on the board when we pick. Hall is a dog. He's tough, physical, plays hard. He can shoot. Yes, the 3 pt % is down quite a bit compared to last season. But his FT% is actually up this season, his 3PA volume is up this season..and I think the 3 pt % is down, mainly because of the role he has on his team. He is THE guy on Clemson. He carries their offense, so opposing team's gameplan around trying to stop him, so he has more defensive pressure on him, higher degree of difficulty for him on his shots. Last year it was both him and Hunter Tyson carrying the offense together. Now (with Tyson drafted by Denver), Hall is the guy, which is obviously not the role he would have in the NBA, In the NBA, he'd have a supporting role, where the defense would be much more focused on our other guys, so he'd have more open looks. Hall has a pretty smooth looking stroke, especially for a big. A little bit undersized for a big, but in terms of height/weight/wingspan, he's similar to Horford..

Hall's BPM this season is 10.2. The guy can play and he plays winning basketball. A little bit older (just turned 22) but Pritchard and Hauser were both older coming out of college too.

Daron Holmes - I'm not as high on him as some people are. And he might be gone before our pick. And I'm not sure if I trust his shooting (since he only has 1 season as a good shooter and that 1 season was on pretty low volume of attempts per game but certainly a guy worth keeping an eye on

Johni Broome - kind of like Hall with the toughness and physicality he plays with. Broome thought I think is even more of a dog, even better defensively. But not quite the shooter that Hall is.

Anton Watson - I don't knbow if he can really play the 5. More of a 4 and I'm not sold on the shooting (only 1 season as a good shooter, low volume of attempts during that 1 season, low FT%..) but he knows how to play, he's tough, smart, physical, can score around the basket, can handle the ball a bit, really good defender. Maybe more of an UDFA (or late 2nd round) target..

Kwame Evans Jr - more of a 4 but could possibly play small ball 5 as well. Good chance he'll return to college but an intriguing guy in the 2nd round if he declares for the draft. Was a 5 star recruit. Coming out of HS I really liked him as a guy who could drive/pass/shoot/defend as a PF/C at a young age. The 3 pt % isn't good but the FT% is very good, the volume is decent and he got off to a rough (1/9) start from 3 this season. Probably just getting used to the college game and deeper 3 pt line. Since then, he's at 33% which still isn't great but isn't bad for a freshman who's 6'9".

Danny Wolf - mentioned him earlier in the thread:

Spoiler:
Hal14 wrote:On my radar for a 2nd round pick.

Danny Wolf from Yale !

It's no secret that Brad likes versatile bigs who can pass the ball, can make high level reads, can process the game at a high level, put the ball on the floor, shoot...

Well, Wolf will likely be there in the 2nd round..and he's only 19.

Read on Twitter


Oh and there's also Alex karaban. But he's more of a 3/4 than a 4/5..and think he'll probably be gone before our pick but he could definitely be a good fit here. Shooter, winner, high basketball IQ..decent defender..
1/11/24 The birth of a new Hal. From now on being less combative, avoiding confrontation - like Switzerland :)
Patsfan1081
RealGM
Posts: 12,002
And1: 5,496
Joined: Jan 06, 2015

Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#835 » by Patsfan1081 » Fri Mar 1, 2024 12:34 am

Honestly, unless Walsh starts hitting threes at a decent clip I don’t see him getting rotational minutes. Which could spell three strait drafts without getting any cheap help from. Feels like Brad kind of needs to hit on a pick. I don’t think the cost will be that high to trade up in a weak draft that has a decent amount of teams with first round picks. I would really like to see Brad identify a player he likes and trade up for him. Hopefully a young big man
Hal14
RealGM
Posts: 19,123
And1: 17,211
Joined: Apr 05, 2019

Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#836 » by Hal14 » Fri Mar 1, 2024 3:16 am

Patsfan1081 wrote:Honestly, unless Walsh starts hitting threes at a decent clip I don’t see him getting rotational minutes.

Walsh is shooting 35% from 3 in the G league this season, on good volume. He's at 39.6% over his last 23 g league games. And he still hasn't even turned 20 yet.
1/11/24 The birth of a new Hal. From now on being less combative, avoiding confrontation - like Switzerland :)
User avatar
165bows
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 18,950
And1: 11,577
Joined: Jan 03, 2013
Location: The land of incremental improvement.

Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#837 » by 165bows » Fri Mar 1, 2024 11:30 am

I’m not usually all that big on the intl guys but Pacome Dadiet seems like another Banton type of long player with ball handling skills. Plus he’s young and they probably wouldn’t have to roster him for awhile and could let him develop overseas.
Smart2Nesmith43
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,545
And1: 4,274
Joined: Nov 06, 2021
 

Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#838 » by Smart2Nesmith43 » Fri Mar 1, 2024 12:51 pm

Patsfan1081 wrote:Honestly, unless Walsh starts hitting threes at a decent clip I don’t see him getting rotational minutes. Which could spell three strait drafts without getting any cheap help from. Feels like Brad kind of needs to hit on a pick. I don’t think the cost will be that high to trade up in a weak draft that has a decent amount of teams with first round picks. I would really like to see Brad identify a player he likes and trade up for him. Hopefully a young big man

Sam Hauser says hello. Not a big fan of trading up either. I'd much rather trade down and stockpile additional second rounders that can be converted into real NBA players (like Tillman for instance) at the deadline when a third of the league is basically giving players away.
djFan71
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 11,894
And1: 17,304
Joined: Jul 24, 2010
 

Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#839 » by djFan71 » Fri Mar 1, 2024 5:34 pm

User avatar
165bows
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 18,950
And1: 11,577
Joined: Jan 03, 2013
Location: The land of incremental improvement.

Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#840 » by 165bows » Fri Mar 1, 2024 6:27 pm

djFan71 wrote:CMB getting the hype right now:
https://www.noceilingsnba.com/p/collin-murray-boyles-is-begging-for

I'm sold, where do we sign.
Edit: super young too, still be 18 when the season is over.

Return to Boston Celtics