2024 NBA Draft Thread

[Hal14]

Paging Hal to see if he watched some these guys that I briefly read/watched that might be available around 30 and can be good fits for the Celtics:

Daron Holmes II - Big

I'm not super high on him. I think somewhere in the mid 2nd round if a good spot to take him, maybe early 2nd round. Could be a good pick for us in the 2nd round, though..I doubt we keep that 30th pick anyways..I think Brad will trade it

Ulrich Chomche - Big

Very intriguing prospect. But rumor has it, he's gonna play college basketball next season. He's not even playing in a league this season. So there is some risk since you don't really know how good he is, he's like a mystery box. It'll be much less of a mystery if he plays college ball next season - then we'll know what he can/can't do with more certainty.

Bobi Klintman - Big/Wing - probably not there at 30

I think he definitely could be there at 30. Like Holmes, I'm not super high on him, see him as like a mid 2nd round pick, maybe early 2nd round.

But he has some talent. There's some upside. And he's a guy you could probably stash overseas for a year or 2 and see if he can develop without taking up a roster spot..

Melvin Ajinca - Wing

Intriguing prospect. I see him as a late 1st round pick..but could certainly still be there at pick 30. Also a guy who's young and from overseas so could be a guy you can stash for a year or 2 which is a plus.

He can shoot which is good..

Dillon Jones - Guard/Wing

Another guy who i see more of like a mid 2nd round pick, maybe early 2nd round, I'm not super high on..

Size-wise, he's gotta be a wing or maybe a 3/4 type. But I just don't know if he has the quickness/athleticism to play out on the perimeter in the NBA. And his stats look good but he's also a 22 year old playing in a mid major conference.

DJ Wagner - Guard

Not really NBA-ready. Should return for a sophomore season in college, imo

Trentyn Flowers - Guard

Intriguing player. But something is going on with him, probably an injury..because he's only played in 1 game since 12/31..and in that 1 game, he played less than 2 mins..and that game was like 3 weeks ago

[Memokerobi]

Paging Hal to see if he watched some these guys that I briefly read/watched that might be available around 30 and can be good fits for the Celtics:

Daron Holmes II - Big

I'm not super high on him. I think somewhere in the mid 2nd round if a good spot to take him, maybe early 2nd round. Could be a good pick for us in the 2nd round, though..I doubt we keep that 30th pick anyways..I think Brad will trade it

Ulrich Chomche - Big

Very intriguing prospect. But rumor has it, he's gonna play college basketball next season. He's not even playing in a league this season. So there is some risk since you don't really know how good he is, he's like a mystery box. It'll be much less of a mystery if he plays college ball next season - then we'll know what he can/can't do with more certainty.

Bobi Klintman - Big/Wing - probably not there at 30

I think he definitely could be there at 30. Like Holmes, I'm not super high on him, see him as like a mid 2nd round pick, maybe early 2nd round.

But he has some talent. There's some upside. And he's a guy you could probably stash overseas for a year or 2 and see if he can develop without taking up a roster spot..

Melvin Ajinca - Wing

Intriguing prospect. I see him as a late 1st round pick..but could certainly still be there at pick 30. Also a guy who's young and from overseas so could be a guy you can stash for a year or 2 which is a plus.

He can shoot which is good..

Dillon Jones - Guard/Wing

Another guy who i see more of like a mid 2nd round pick, maybe early 2nd round, I'm not super high on..

Size-wise, he's gotta be a wing or maybe a 3/4 type. But I just don't know if he has the quickness/athleticism to play out on the perimeter in the NBA. And his stats look good but he's also a 22 year old playing in a mid major conference.

DJ Wagner - Guard

Not really NBA-ready. Should return for a sophomore season in college, imo

Trentyn Flowers - Guard

Intriguing player. But something is going on with him, probably an injury..because he's only played in 1 game since 12/31..and in that 1 game, he played less than 2 mins..and that game was like 3 weeks ago

Appreicate it, looks like Melvin Ajinca is now #1 on my draft board of 1

[Hal14]

If we stay at pick 30, some guys on my radar:

Johnny Furphy
Devin Carter
Jamir Watkins
Alex Karaban
Hunter Sallis
Jaylon Tyson
Tyler Kolek
Juan Nunez
Yves Missi
Dalton Knecht
Melvin Ajinca
Ja’Kobe Walter
Kel'el Ware
Reece Beekman
Baylor Scheierman
Oso Ighodaro

All of these guys a) are currently in the top 30 on my personal big board b) probably have a somewhat realistic chance of still being there at 30 and c) could maybe be a good fit for Boston

[Smart2Nesmith43]

Melvin Ajinca - Wing

Intriguing prospect. I see him as a late 1st round pick..but could certainly still be there at pick 30. Also a guy who's young and from overseas so could be a guy you can stash for a year or 2 which is a plus.

He can shoot which is good..

A little more info on Ajinça:
- he is a lefty.
- his cousin Alexis played for like 7 seasons in the league.
- was the number one perimeter option on the french U19 team last summer (over guys like Sarr or Risacher) which beat the US in the semis and lost in overtime against Spain in the finals.
- very low assist and block totals.
- he can shoot even if the three point percentage isn't great right now and he is athletic enough to survive in the NBA but the rest of his game is lagging behind.
- he makes 100% of his shots in highlights videos:

Watch on YouTube

[LewisnotMiller]

Paging Hal to see if he watched some these guys that I briefly read/watched that might be available around 30 and can be good fits for the Celtics:

Daron Holmes II - Big
Ulrich Chomche - Big
Bobi Klintman - Big/Wing - probably not there at 30
Melvin Ajinca - Wing
Dillon Jones - Guard/Wing
DJ Wagner - Guard
Trentyn Flowers - Guard

I've watched a lot of Klintman, and a decent amount of Flowers...(both playing in Australia)
Any particular questions, or just after general vibes?

[Memokerobi]

[x][/x]

Paging Hal to see if he watched some these guys that I briefly read/watched that might be available around 30 and can be good fits for the Celtics:

Daron Holmes II - Big
Ulrich Chomche - Big
Bobi Klintman - Big/Wing - probably not there at 30
Melvin Ajinca - Wing
Dillon Jones - Guard/Wing
DJ Wagner - Guard
Trentyn Flowers - Guard

I've watched a lot of Klintman, and a decent amount of Flowers...(both playing in Australia)
Any particular questions, or just after general vibes?

General vibes and if they’d fit the Cs as projects

[165bows]

If we stay at pick 30, some guys on my radar:

Johnny Furphy
Devin Carter
Jamir Watkins
Alex Karaban
Hunter Sallis
Jaylon Tyson
Tyler Kolek
Juan Nunez
Yves Missi
Dalton Knecht
Melvin Ajinca
Ja’Kobe Walter
Kel'el Ware
Reece Beekman
Baylor Scheierman
Oso Ighodaro

All of these guys a) are currently in the top 30 on my personal big board b) probably have a somewhat realistic chance of still being there at 30 and c) could maybe be a good fit for Boston

I'll be stumping for our local guy from here on out, but what's up with UConn's transfer guard Cam Spencer? Looks like he's been playing college ball forever, but a career 18/5/4/2 per 40 with .516/.416/.877 splits, career 3% steal rate and 3/1 ATO rate, that's a lot to like there for a 6'4" guard.

[djFan71]

If we stay at pick 30, some guys on my radar:

Johnny Furphy
Devin Carter
Jamir Watkins
Alex Karaban
Hunter Sallis
Jaylon Tyson
Tyler Kolek
Juan Nunez
Yves Missi
Dalton Knecht
Melvin Ajinca
Ja’Kobe Walter
Kel'el Ware
Reece Beekman
Baylor Scheierman
Oso Ighodaro

All of these guys a) are currently in the top 30 on my personal big board b) probably have a somewhat realistic chance of still being there at 30 and c) could maybe be a good fit for Boston

I'll be stumping for our local guy from here on out, but what's up with UConn's transfer guard Cam Spencer? Looks like he's been playing college ball forever, but a career 18/5/4/2 per 40 with .516/.416/.877 splits, career 3% steal rate and 3/1 ATO rate, that's a lot to like there for a 6'4" guard.

Sorry if this is doxxing you.
https://www.noceilingsnba.com/p/the-simmering-stock-of-alex-karaban

[165bows]

If we stay at pick 30, some guys on my radar:

Johnny Furphy
Devin Carter
Jamir Watkins
Alex Karaban
Hunter Sallis
Jaylon Tyson
Tyler Kolek
Juan Nunez
Yves Missi
Dalton Knecht
Melvin Ajinca
Ja’Kobe Walter
Kel'el Ware
Reece Beekman
Baylor Scheierman
Oso Ighodaro

All of these guys a) are currently in the top 30 on my personal big board b) probably have a somewhat realistic chance of still being there at 30 and c) could maybe be a good fit for Boston

I'll be stumping for our local guy from here on out, but what's up with UConn's transfer guard Cam Spencer? Looks like he's been playing college ball forever, but a career 18/5/4/2 per 40 with .516/.416/.877 splits, career 3% steal rate and 3/1 ATO rate, that's a lot to like there for a 6'4" guard.

Sorry if this is doxxing you.
https://www.noceilingsnba.com/p/the-simmering-stock-of-alex-karaban

Haha no, but thanks for the article! Def think the local kid is worth grabbing, even at 30. Stretch four that can play is always on everyone's list.

[Hal14]

I'll be stumping for our local guy from here on out, but what's up with UConn's transfer guard Cam Spencer? Looks like he's been playing college ball forever, but a career 18/5/4/2 per 40 with .516/.416/.877 splits, career 3% steal rate and 3/1 ATO rate, that's a lot to like there for a 6'4" guard.

Sorry if this is doxxing you.
https://www.noceilingsnba.com/p/the-simmering-stock-of-alex-karaban

Haha no, but thanks for the article! Def think the local kid is worth grabbing, even at 30. Stretch four that can play is always on everyone's list.

Would love Karaban. He's currently no. 17 on my big board.

Just don't know if he'll still be there at 30..and think we will probably trade pick 30 as well.

If we trade down to like 36 and can still snag someone like Karaban, Furphy, Watkins, Carter, Sallis or Tyson - that's the dream right there

[165bows]

Sorry if this is doxxing you.
https://www.noceilingsnba.com/p/the-simmering-stock-of-alex-karaban

Haha no, but thanks for the article! Def think the local kid is worth grabbing, even at 30. Stretch four that can play is always on everyone's list.

Would love Karaban. He's currently no. 17 on my big board.

Just don't know if he'll still be there at 30..and think we will probably trade pick 30 as well.

If we trade down to like 36 and can still snag someone like Karaban, Furphy, Watkins, Carter, Sallis or Tyson - that's the dream right there

Def sounds like a guy that would like to stay local:

https://www.ctinsider.com/uconn/article/UConn-men-get-commitment-from-Top-50-recruit-Alex-16358724.php

[LewisnotMiller]

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Paging Hal to see if he watched some these guys that I briefly read/watched that might be available around 30 and can be good fits for the Celtics:

Daron Holmes II - Big
Ulrich Chomche - Big
Bobi Klintman - Big/Wing - probably not there at 30
Melvin Ajinca - Wing
Dillon Jones - Guard/Wing
DJ Wagner - Guard
Trentyn Flowers - Guard

I've watched a lot of Klintman, and a decent amount of Flowers...(both playing in Australia)
Any particular questions, or just after general vibes?

General vibes and if they’d fit the Cs as projects

Some of the more recent mocks I've seen have Klintman going very late first, so while I think he'll be gone, it wouldn't take much for him to be gettable.

Klintman - great combination of size and mobility. Because there are some fairly ball dominant guards on his team, he's needed to do a fair amount of offensive work off ball, which has reduced his raw stats a little bit I think it's probably good in terms of development and likely NBA role.
Shot looks decent to me, and his percentages have been solid (36% on 3pt, 79% FT) although it's worth noting we have an international three point line.
In terms of upside and role, he'd be a switchy 4 who can play solid defence against most, and stretch the floor offensively, plus be decent in transition, which is obviously a useful player. These are all things he's shown himself able to do right now in the NBL, but apart from one occassion (that I've seen) he has probably lacked signature games. Moments, sure, but whole games less so.
One of my best mates lives near Malmo in Sweden so I've kinda taken extra notice of Klintman.

Flowers - I've seen less of him, partly because I've just watched less of his team, partly because he's only averaged about 12 minutes a game (40 min games).
He's long and mobile, obviously, and he's flashed being able to use that effectively, but not in any consistent way. He's hit on the 3, but at low volume, and his FT% is down at 60%. I never expect rookies to be good defenders but I think he could have forced more playing time if he could have used his length and speed better at that end...going back to the States, with so many good athletes, won't help him. Ultimately I wouldn't draft him, certainly not first round. He does look the part of an NBA player, though...just not sure I trust the shot and d.

A couple of other guys in the NBL I'd be more interested as with a late second round flyer.
Mantas Rabstavicius (shooter, good size, some edge)
Alex Toohey (taller perimeter player, shooter)

If you wanted an athlete, I guess his comps out here are more AJ Johnson (who I think Flowers is ahead of)

[Smart2Nesmith43]

If we stay at pick 30, some guys on my radar:

Johnny Furphy
Devin Carter
Jamir Watkins
Alex Karaban
Hunter Sallis
Jaylon Tyson
Tyler Kolek
Juan Nunez
Yves Missi
Dalton Knecht
Melvin Ajinca
Ja’Kobe Walter
Kel'el Ware
Reece Beekman
Baylor Scheierman
Oso Ighodaro

All of these guys a) are currently in the top 30 on my personal big board b) probably have a somewhat realistic chance of still being there at 30 and c) could maybe be a good fit for Boston

I'll be stumping for our local guy from here on out, but what's up with UConn's transfer guard Cam Spencer? Looks like he's been playing college ball forever, but a career 18/5/4/2 per 40 with .516/.416/.877 splits, career 3% steal rate and 3/1 ATO rate, that's a lot to like there for a 6'4" guard.

Sorry if this is doxxing you.
https://www.noceilingsnba.com/p/the-simmering-stock-of-alex-karaban

The latest mock by the athletic has the Celtics picking Edey with their first round pick and Karaban with their second so I'm pretty sure that writer is actually 165bows

[Smart2Nesmith43]

Risacher debut for the French national team lasted only 4 minutes before he left the game due to an elbow to the face. Hopefully it's nothing too serious

The play was initially ruled an and one lay up for the opposition player (don't you just hate it when a guy trailing you on your drive just hacks your elbow with his face ?). After Risacher laid on the ground with his nose leaking blood for like 30 seconds, one of the umpires decided it might be a good idea to check the video. They then concluded that despite the Croatian player flaying wildly enough to put his elbow in Risacher's head before the shot was released and assessing him with a flagrant foul, that the play should also stand. Because reasons. And y'all complain about the refereeing standard in the NBA.

[165bows]

I'll be stumping for our local guy from here on out, but what's up with UConn's transfer guard Cam Spencer? Looks like he's been playing college ball forever, but a career 18/5/4/2 per 40 with .516/.416/.877 splits, career 3% steal rate and 3/1 ATO rate, that's a lot to like there for a 6'4" guard.

Sorry if this is doxxing you.
https://www.noceilingsnba.com/p/the-simmering-stock-of-alex-karaban

The latest mock by the athletic has the Celtics picking Edey with their first round pick and Karaban with their second so I'm pretty sure that writer is actually 165bows

Damn these people always stealing my ****

[165bows]

What part of Alex Karaban’s game couldn’t get into the ballpark of say eg Keegan Murray?

[Hal14]

What part of Alex Karaban’s game couldn’t get into the ballpark of say eg Keegan Murray?

I actually made that comp earlier in the thread.

Keegan was simply a better, more dominant, more productive college player. Better ball handler, better at creating his own shot, better rebounder. Better at finishing at the rim, and protecting the rim..better at posting up, a little quicker and more athletic.

But he was the 4th pick.

I can certainly see Karaban being a slightly worse version of Keegan..

[165bows]

Bronny James getting mocked at 39 is perfect. Not too high to be ridiculous but high enough that when he gets taken just outside the lottery it’s “hey that’s not too bad a reach he was mocked at 39!!”

[shackles10]

Bronny James getting mocked at 39 is perfect. Not too high to be ridiculous but high enough that when he gets taken just outside the lottery it’s “hey that’s not too bad a reach he was mocked at 39!!”

Maybe a typo, but the article said "2025" so are they predicting he'll have to play another year just to make it to 39th or simply a typo?

[brackdan70]

Bronny James getting mocked at 39 is perfect. Not too high to be ridiculous but high enough that when he gets taken just outside the lottery it’s “hey that’s not too bad a reach he was mocked at 39!!”

Maybe a typo, but the article said "2025" so are they predicting he'll have to play another year just to make it to 39th or simply a typo?

That seems like not a typo . He really isn’t very good. Staying another year would be good for him unless he doesn’t improve.