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Re: Celtics 2023-24, Season Thread, (con't) 

Post#1321 » by bisme37 » Mon Mar 18, 2024 4:29 pm

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Re: Celtics 2023-24, Season Thread, (con't) 

Post#1322 » by bisme37 » Mon Mar 18, 2024 4:30 pm

After last night we have the 3rd highest point differential per 100 possessions in a season behind only the 95-96 and 96-97 Bulls.

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Re: Celtics 2023-24, Season Thread, (con't) 

Post#1323 » by CoP » Mon Mar 18, 2024 5:23 pm

Among all players with at least 50 games played (n=233), Pritchard has the 7th highest AST/TO ratio. Among bench players with at least 50 games (n=48), he has the highest.
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Re: Celtics 2023-24, Season Thread, (con't) 

Post#1324 » by Fencer reregistered » Mon Mar 18, 2024 6:09 pm

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Fencer reregistered wrote:15 games left, and nobody catches us for home court unless we lose 6 of those.

Unless I'm misremembering:

3 of the games are against really good teams who have more to play for than we do -- or at least with really good records and current health in line with what got them there, namely OKC and 2x Bucks. The rest are all Knicks or worse, mainly much worse.

Yeah the magic number for home court throughout the entire playoffs is currently 10, as we're 6 games up on OKC.

Technically if we were to beat them head to head in our final matchup to draw the season series, the number is at 9 since we'd have the tiebreaker of best conference record (which is what it is for Denver since they are 7 games back but have already won the season series and own the tiebreaker if we finish with the same record).

We've got 9 very winnable games: Detroit twice, Atlanta twice, Charlotte twice, Chicago, Portland and Washington again.

The other 6 are against legit competition but teams we have and should beat again (Bucks twice, OKC, New Orleans, Sacramento and the Knicks).

OKC is running a similar gauntlet with the Bucks twice, SAC/NOP/NYK plus the C's again, but they've also got games agains Phoenix, Dallas, Houston, Indy etc. So not quite as soft as ours. Denver is the real threat even though they're 7 games back because they've lucked out with 3 games against the T-Wolves without KAT, but still have PHX/LAC/CLE/NYK sprinkled in there as well.

So as long as we take care of business over the next soft stretch, we should end up with some wiggle room at the end of the season to get some extra rest and still confidently have HCA all the way through the finals.


OKC beat us once, no? And they'll have more to play for. But we'll be at home.

It would be very surprising if we lost home court in any way. It would be even more surprising if we lost home court except to an OKC team that beat us in the remaining game. So I only look at these calculations assuming the threat is OKC and that they win the remaining head-to-head game. Anything else is so extremely unlikely as not to be worth attention, IMO.
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Post#1325 » by KillahGhostface » Tue Mar 19, 2024 12:26 am

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Post#1326 » by Sweet Serenity » Tue Mar 19, 2024 3:55 am

Pretty crazy how historic this season has been when you consider we have a second star we’d better off without according to some & a coach that’s holding us back according to others.
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Post#1327 » by ConstableGeneva » Tue Mar 19, 2024 10:03 am

This was from a couple of weeks ago...

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Celtics relative offensive rating has increased to +7.5 and relative defensive rating has improved to -4.3. Their relative net rating is now 3rd behind the two Bulls teams and currently ahead of KD-Curry Dubs and KG-PP Cs.
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Post#1328 » by ConstableGeneva » Tue Mar 19, 2024 11:19 am

ConstableGeneva wrote:Some time during this month, the Celtics broke the 1,000 mark in three pointers made. 4th time in franchise history. They're on pace to break the franchise record in made threes for a single season.

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The Celtics are making 16.4 threes per game on 42.4%. That accuracy on that volume has never been done. Previous high for makes per game on 40%+ accuracy is 14.3 by the Clippers in 2020-21. Previous high for 3FG% on 15+ makes per game is is 38.9% by the Jazz in 2020-21. Peak Warriors from 3 in 2015-16 made 13.1 threes per game at 41.6%.

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Celtics just need to average 13.36 made threes per game in the remaining 14 games to break the franchise record of most made threes in a single season. 16.79 made threes if they're to break the NBA record set by the Warriors last season.
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Re: Celtics 2023-24, Season Thread, (con't) 

Post#1329 » by 31to6 » Tue Mar 19, 2024 4:14 pm

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ConstableGeneva wrote:Some time during this month, the Celtics broke the 1,000 mark in three pointers made. 4th time in franchise history. They're on pace to break the franchise record in made threes for a single season.

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The Celtics are making 16.4 threes per game on 42.4%. That accuracy on that volume has never been done. Previous high for makes per game on 40%+ accuracy is 14.3 by the Clippers in 2020-21. Previous high for 3FG% on 15+ makes per game is is 38.9% by the Jazz in 2020-21. Peak Warriors from 3 in 2015-16 made 13.1 threes per game at 41.6%.

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Celtics just need to average 13.36 made threes per game in the remaining 14 games to break the franchise record of most made threes in a single season. 16.79 made threes if they're to break the NBA record set by the Warriors last season.


So they need to bump their 3ptfgm/game by 2.4% for their remaining 14 games to set the new league record. I'd guess they .. will do that.

Hey while you're modeling, what average win margin do they need for the rest of the season to catch the all-time mark? I'm guessing it's absurd -- but that you (and I) would stop and think about it before dismissing it out of hand:)
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Re: Celtics 2023-24, Season Thread, (con't) 

Post#1330 » by ConstableGeneva » Tue Mar 19, 2024 4:36 pm

31to6 wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:Some time during this month, the Celtics broke the 1,000 mark in three pointers made. 4th time in franchise history. They're on pace to break the franchise record in made threes for a single season.

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The Celtics are making 16.4 threes per game on 42.4%. That accuracy on that volume has never been done. Previous high for makes per game on 40%+ accuracy is 14.3 by the Clippers in 2020-21. Previous high for 3FG% on 15+ makes per game is is 38.9% by the Jazz in 2020-21. Peak Warriors from 3 in 2015-16 made 13.1 threes per game at 41.6%.

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Celtics just need to average 13.36 made threes per game in the remaining 14 games to break the franchise record of most made threes in a single season. 16.79 made threes if they're to break the NBA record set by the Warriors last season.


So they need to bump their 3ptfgm/game by 2.4% for their remaining 14 games to set the new league record. I'd guess they .. will do that.

Hey while you're modeling, what average win margin do they need for the rest of the season to catch the all-time mark? I'm guessing it's absurd -- but that you (and I) would stop and think about it before dismissing it out of hand:)

Just continue what they're doing, post-ASB -- averaging 18.2 threes per game and league record is broken.

All-time mark for what? Most total points? It's not in the realm of possibility but they just need to average 121 ppg rest of the way to crack top 10. Just continue what they've been doing post-ASB -- averaging 122.3 ppg.
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Re: Celtics 2023-24, Season Thread, (con't) 

Post#1331 » by 31to6 » Tue Mar 19, 2024 4:42 pm

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Celtics just need to average 13.36 made threes per game in the remaining 14 games to break the franchise record of most made threes in a single season. 16.79 made threes if they're to break the NBA record set by the Warriors last season.


So they need to bump their 3ptfgm/game by 2.4% for their remaining 14 games to set the new league record. I'd guess they .. will do that.

Hey while you're modeling, what average win margin do they need for the rest of the season to catch the all-time mark? I'm guessing it's absurd -- but that you (and I) would stop and think about it before dismissing it out of hand:)

Just continue what they're doing, post-ASB -- averaging 18.2 threes per game and league record is broken.

All-time mark for what? Most total points? It's not in the realm of possibility but they just need to average 121 ppg rest of the way to crack top 10. Just continue what they've been doing post-ASB -- averaging 122.3 ppg.


all-time mark for point differential. Per game or per 100 possessions, whichever is more readily attainable:)
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Re: Celtics 2023-24, Season Thread, (con't) 

Post#1332 » by ConstableGeneva » Tue Mar 19, 2024 4:49 pm

31to6 wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:
31to6 wrote:
So they need to bump their 3ptfgm/game by 2.4% for their remaining 14 games to set the new league record. I'd guess they .. will do that.

Hey while you're modeling, what average win margin do they need for the rest of the season to catch the all-time mark? I'm guessing it's absurd -- but that you (and I) would stop and think about it before dismissing it out of hand:)

Just continue what they're doing, post-ASB -- averaging 18.2 threes per game and league record is broken.

All-time mark for what? Most total points? It's not in the realm of possibility but they just need to average 121 ppg rest of the way to crack top 10. Just continue what they've been doing post-ASB -- averaging 122.3 ppg.


all-time mark for point differential. Per game or per 100 possessions, whichever is more readily attainable:)

+216 in last 14 games would do it for point differential. No idea how to compute for net rating lol.
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Re: Celtics 2023-24, Season Thread, (con't) 

Post#1333 » by Smart2Nesmith43 » Tue Mar 19, 2024 8:32 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:
31to6 wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:Just continue what they're doing, post-ASB -- averaging 18.2 threes per game and league record is broken.

All-time mark for what? Most total points? It's not in the realm of possibility but they just need to average 121 ppg rest of the way to crack top 10. Just continue what they've been doing post-ASB -- averaging 122.3 ppg.


all-time mark for point differential. Per game or per 100 possessions, whichever is more readily attainable:)

+216 in last 14 games would do it for point differential. No idea how to compute for net rating lol.

That means outscoring opponents by 15.4 points per game. Can't compute the exact net rating that would be required because you would need to know the remaining number of possessions in the Celtics season to do so. Considering the current pace the Celtics play at, a net rating above 15.7 should do it. Anything above 16 will do it.
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Post#1334 » by ConstableGeneva » Tue Mar 19, 2024 8:34 pm

Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:
31to6 wrote:
all-time mark for point differential. Per game or per 100 possessions, whichever is more readily attainable:)

+216 in last 14 games would do it for point differential. No idea how to compute for net rating lol.

That means outscoring opponents by 15.4 points per game. Can't compute the exact net rating that would be required because you would need to know the remaining number of possessions in the Celtics season to do so. Considering the current pace the Celtics play at, a net rating above 15.7 should do it. Anything above 16 will do it.

Post-ASB pace in terms of volume and efficiency, if continued, will shatter a lot of regular season records.
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Post#1335 » by Curmudgeon » Tue Mar 19, 2024 9:04 pm

Please don't jinx the Celtics. We don't need a repeat of the 2007 Patriots.
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Post#1336 » by ConstableGeneva » Tue Mar 19, 2024 9:07 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:Please don't jinx the Celtics. We don't need a repeat of the 2007 Patriots.

Luckily jinxes aren't real and fans on the internet don't influence team play as much as we think they do.
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Post#1337 » by Mr_Mojo_Risin » Tue Mar 19, 2024 10:39 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:Please don't jinx the Celtics. We don't need a repeat of the 2007 Patriots.

Luckily jinxes aren't real and fans on the internet don't influence team play as much as we think they do.

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Post#1338 » by Curmudgeon » Wed Mar 20, 2024 12:13 am

The Basketball Gods are real and must not be offended.
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Curmudgeon wrote:The Basketball Gods are real and must not be offended.

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Post#1340 » by ConstableGeneva » Wed Mar 20, 2024 12:20 am

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