Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24

hugepatsfan · Post #1941 » by **hugepatsfan** » Thu Feb 29, 2024 5:56 pm

I don't think anyone they sign is going to play at all other than scrap minutes. Mills and OPJ are two vets that have won titles before who can maybe lend even a shred of advice/perspective during a playoff run. I'd waive Svi and sign both.

Celts17Pride · Post #1942 » by **Celts17Pride** » Thu Feb 29, 2024 6:59 pm

I'm not as big on an unplayable vet that has won it before as a buyout guy. Get someone that could play. If Tatum, Brown, White, Horford etc. don't know what it takes to win by now then the Celtics have bigger problems than a buyout guy.

Hal14 · Post #1943 » by **Hal14** » Thu Feb 29, 2024 9:40 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:I'm not as big on an unplayable vet that has won it before as a buyout guy. Get someone that could play

I think the point hugepatsfan was making is that between the fact that the C's roster is already very deep/talented and the fact that the available free agents are not very good, means that no matter who we sign - they're not gonna play, other than scrap minutes.

So mine as well use the roster spot to add someone who can bring some knowledge/wisdom on how to win an NBA title so they can at least bring some value to the team off the court, since nobody we sign will bring any value on the court.

Celts17Pride wrote: If Tatum, Brown, White, Horford etc. don't know what it takes to win by now then the Celtics have bigger problems than a buyout guy.

Tatum and Brown are only 25 and 27 years old, respectively. Duos that young very rarely know what it takes to win a title. Jokic won his first title at age 28, Giannis was 26, Steph was 27, LeBron was 27, Jordan and Pippen were 28 and 27. Shaq was 28. KG was 32, Pierce was 30. Dirk was 32. Hakeem was 31, Drexler was 32, David Robinson was 33.

Out of the last 25 NBA champions, 18 of them had 2 or more guys on the team who had already won a title on a previous team. Right now, we only have 1 (Jrue). It certainly could help to add another one.

Also, Patty and OPJ are arguably the 2 best players available right now..

I mean, we just traded away actual assets for Tillman and Springer but they can't get any minutes. A buyout guy we sign for basically nothing is gonna have an even harder time getting minutes.

Homerclease · Post #1944 » by **Homerclease** » Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:12 pm

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GoCeltics123 · Post #1945 » by **GoCeltics123** » Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:20 pm

Can't sign Morris under the new buyout rules.

My guess is that it's still going to end up with Queta getting the spot, but I wouldn't be shocked if Otto gets bought out if they go with him or even Patty Mills

Homerclease · Post #1946 » by **Homerclease** » Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:29 pm

GoCeltics123 wrote:Can't sign Morris under the new buyout rules.

My guess is that it's still going to end up with Queta getting the spot, but I wouldn't be shocked if Otto gets bought out if they go with him or even Patty Mills

Didn’t even know Mook made that much tbh. I agree, would rather just convert Queta either way

Joshyjess · Post #1947 » by **Joshyjess** » Fri Mar 1, 2024 12:30 am

Actually, the best thing Boston could do for that 15th man spot - Bring back Kevin Garnett!!!! Obviously he's not actually going to play any games (pretty much what the 15h man does anyway), and could you imagine how pumped up he would get the guys every game!!!!
So, instead of brining in a guy who won't contribute on the floor, bring in a guy who will contribute more than anybody else possibly can from the bench. I imagine he would come pretty cheap too!

GoCeltics123 · Post #1948 » by **GoCeltics123** » Fri Mar 1, 2024 1:34 am

That guy Gambo from Phoenix said Boston or the Clippers for Otto Porter Jr. if he's bought out

Said he might not even get one though, he hasn't asked for it yet

Celts17Pride · Post #1949 » by **Celts17Pride** » Fri Mar 1, 2024 1:55 am

GoCeltics123 wrote:That guy Gambo from Phoenix said Boston or the Clippers for Otto Porter Jr. if he's bought out

Said he might not even get one though, he hasn't asked for it yet

Because he can't even get on the floor. Might as well just keep all his money.

GoCeltics123 · Post #1950 » by **GoCeltics123** » Fri Mar 1, 2024 2:08 am

According to league sources, the Celtics are essentially delaying their decision to see if a need arises in the coming weeks due to an injury. They continue to evaluate all of the possibilities. A league source said it was “unlikely” that the team would look to bring back forwards Mike Muscala or Marcus Morris, who recently reached buyout agreements with the Pistons and Spurs. But nothing has been ruled out.

Also, the source said, two-way contract center Neemias Queta remains in contention to secure the final spot. Boston could also wait until the end of the regular season and sign a younger developmental piece, like it did last April when it added forward Justin Champagnie. Regardless, there is no potential addition who would be in line for meaningful playoff minutes.

Himmelsbach

Post #1951 » by **165bows** » Fri Mar 1, 2024 3:11 am

GoCeltics123 wrote:
According to league sources, the Celtics are essentially delaying their decision to see if a need arises in the coming weeks due to an injury. They continue to evaluate all of the possibilities. A league source said it was “unlikely” that the team would look to bring back forwards Mike Muscala or Marcus Morris, who recently reached buyout agreements with the Pistons and Spurs. But nothing has been ruled out.

Also, the source said, two-way contract center Neemias Queta remains in contention to secure the final spot. Boston could also wait until the end of the regular season and sign a younger developmental piece, like it did last April when it added forward Justin Champagnie. Regardless, there is no potential addition who would be in line for meaningful playoff minutes.

Himmelsbach

That’s mature of them I suppose. If it’s based on a potential injury I’ll just hope for nobody then lol.

Curmudgeon · Post #1952 » by **Curmudgeon** » Fri Mar 1, 2024 3:15 am

So far they haven't even been able to find minutes for Tillman, who is better than any of the buyout guys.

Hal14 · Post #1953 » by **Hal14** » Fri Mar 1, 2024 3:27 am

Celts17Pride wrote:
GoCeltics123 wrote:That guy Gambo from Phoenix said Boston or the Clippers for Otto Porter Jr. if he's bought out

Said he might not even get one though, he hasn't asked for it yet

Because he can't even get on the floor. Might as well just keep all his money.

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celtxman · Post #1954 » by **celtxman** » Fri Mar 1, 2024 2:54 pm

Well at least today we will finish the process of who is available. I would think that if someone like Cedi Osman or someone else Brad is interested in is waived, the decision has probably already been made between the player and the Celtics

Post #1955 » by **165bows** » Fri Mar 1, 2024 3:16 pm

celtxman wrote:Well at least today we will finish the process of who is available. I would think that if someone like Cedi Osman or someone else Brad is interested in is waived, the decision has probably already been made between the player and the Celtics

Yeah seems like a small number of guys waived this year iinm. Gallo, Morris, Delon Wright, maybe a couple others I forget or are very forgettable.

Dogen · Post #1956 » by **Dogen** » Fri Mar 1, 2024 4:21 pm

What's the deadline anyways? A player can be bought out and then signed by March 1 midnight US ET?

Doesn't look like anything will happen, but I wouldn't be surprised at a minor last minute deal. Brad tends to keep his cards close to his vest, and then Bam! (no, not that Bam :wink:

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Hal14 · Post #1957 » by **Hal14** » Fri Mar 1, 2024 4:32 pm

Dogen wrote:What's the deadline anyways? A player can be bought out and then signed by March 1 midnight US ET?

Doesn't look like anything will happen, but I wouldn't be surprised at a minor last minute deal. Brad tends to keep his cards close to his vest, and then Bam! (no, not that Bam )

The deadline is today for a guy to get waived/bought out and be eligible to play in the playoffs for a different team he signs with.

However, he could sign with a new team right up until the last day of the regular season (which is like 5 or 6 weeks away)..

So there's a chance that no one actually gets signed today.

Today is really just about the list of players getting finalized who could sign with a new team and play in the playoffs for that new team.

Fierce1 · Post #1958 » by **Fierce1** » Fri Mar 1, 2024 4:38 pm

With Joe using more of the 2-big lineup, I don't think Brad will sign another wing.

It's looking like Joe has his 9-man rotation with Luke as the 9th man.

But the rotation could still change if it's becoming clearer the Cs have the #1 seed locked up.

I'm expecting to see more Tillman as the playoffs get closer.

Hal14 · Post #1959 » by **Hal14** » Fri Mar 1, 2024 5:08 pm

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FWIW, B robb says Queta probably stays on a 2-way..and he would like to see us sign OPJ, rather than Patty Mills..

Dogen · Post #1960 » by **Dogen** » Fri Mar 1, 2024 5:41 pm

Hal14 wrote:
Dogen wrote:What's the deadline anyways? A player can be bought out and then signed by March 1 midnight US ET?

Doesn't look like anything will happen, but I wouldn't be surprised at a minor last minute deal. Brad tends to keep his cards close to his vest, and then Bam! (no, not that Bam )

The deadline is today for a guy to get waived/bought out and be eligible to play in the playoffs for a different team he signs with.

However, he could sign with a new team right up until the last day of the regular season (which is like 5 or 6 weeks away)..

So there's a chance that no one actually gets signed today.

Today is really just about the list of players getting finalized who could sign with a new team and play in the playoffs for that new team.

That is what I thought. I would suppose that if Brad is signing an Otto PJr type, that player would want to be available for the playoffs. So if not today, then might as well be a younger player with potential who can contribute in reg season, and maybe playoffs, like Queta.