Hal14 wrote:RickyDizzle wrote:Banton scores 30 the other night and generally filling g the stat sheet in Portland. I still like him overall as a player and as a jack of all trades role player better than Springer.
They're both young guys on cheap contracts.
Banton wasn't getting minutes here so no point in keeping him around.
They gave Banton a shot. Kept him around for over half a season..but it wasn't working out..he wasn't getting any minutes so they decided to try someone else and kick the tires on Springer.
Banton might seem like a jack of all trades role player. But while he does a little bit of everything, I'm not sure if he does anything well enough to actually contribute on a team with championship aspirations. On offense, shooting is obviously an issue. And while he can get downhill and get into the paint nearly at will, his ability to finish at the rim was bad here. So that negates his ability to pressure the rim - if he can't finish at the rim.
And on D, he was decent. But also a bit foul-prone..and really skinny/lacking muscle for a 6'8" guy so often times dudes would score in the paint on him easily and/or grab offensive boards over him easily.
Bottom line, he's a nice end of bench guy to have since there's some upside you can try to develop. But he turns 25 early next season so how much upside is really there? We gave him a shot, it didn't work out, so why not try someone else in that spot? If you're gonna have an end of the bench guy who is a young guy with some upside to develop, why not get a guy who is 3 years younger than Banton? Which Springer is.
After we traded for Springer, Mazzulla was interviewed about it and he referred to Springer as a "specialist". His quote implied that he likes to have specialists on the bench. Like, you have to be really good at multiple things if you want to be star (or even a starter). But to be a role player off the bench, you just have to be a specialist at 1 thing. Hauser and Pritchard are shooting specialists, Al is 3&D. Brissett is hustle/energy/rebounding specialist.
Banton does not have that 1 thing he truly excels at. Springer does. POA defense, being able to really dig in on D, defend guys like Trae, Steph, Doncic, Brunson, Maxey, Haliburton, Mitchell, Garland, Lamelo, Jamal Murray, etc. Give those guys hell and even show some flashes of help side rim protection. Come in for a few mins, play really tough D and come out. Springer is a specialist. We haven't really seen him in that role yet for Boston but he did it for Philly a decent amount.
Lastly, Brad said after the trade that Springer "is an athlete who can play athletically in the playoffs". No one in the Celtics org ever said anything like that about Banton - and he's 3 yrs older. Banton's athleticism is decent but not on Springer's level. Springer is much stronger too.RickyDizzle wrote:Springer they gave up draft capital to acquire too...
We only gave up 1 2nd round pick for Springer. That's nothing. Brad had a million 2nd rounders stashed up.
Also, we acquired a 2nd round pick by trading away Banton. So the picks don't really matter. We traded 1 to get Springer and acquired 1 for Banton.
The pick we acquired by trading Banton is fake I believe. Too 55 protected or something.
That said I like springer much better. Bantons shooting is still **** in Portland and he is not a strong defender. Springer has difference maker potential.
