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Game Thread – Celtics @ Hawks – 7:30PM, Thurs, March 28, 2024

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Re: Game Thread – Celtics @ Hawks – 7:30PM, Thurs, March 28, 2024 

Post#641 » by Triple7 » Fri Mar 29, 2024 2:15 am

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Triple7 wrote:That missed free throw from JT cost us the game. Talk about clutch haha


Give me a **** break. What cost us the game was the lack of pressure and giving away silly baskets the whole game. That's always whats happens to this team. They underestimate the other guys like they're the 97' Bulls and Tatum is Michael **** Jordan.


Lol. JT choked that free throw. He always miss one on crucial times. Of course, that’s not the only reason obviously.
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Post#642 » by ThePigeon » Fri Mar 29, 2024 2:15 am

Above The Rim wrote:Why did murray get off such a clean shot but Tatum can’t? I don’t get it.


1. Because we play 'fair' - no manhandling or playin physical
2. Our screen setters are bad (except Queta)
3. Murray handle is better than JT's
4. Murray tries for the midrange while JT goes to the rim
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Re: Game Thread – Celtics @ Hawks – 7:30PM, Thurs, March 28, 2024 

Post#643 » by Fierce1 » Fri Mar 29, 2024 2:15 am

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Above The Rim wrote:Why did murray get off such a clean shot but Tatum can’t? I don’t get it.

JT not yet comfortable taking that mid-range shot in the clutch.

What JT does is tries to fish for foul and that makes him miss the shot.

It's a case of needing more experience, especially in the clutch.

Just another five years and two coaching changes and the light bulb will finally flicker on for Tatum and Brown.

LMFAO

5 years means JT will be 31 and JB will be 32.

They will still be in their prime.

I can wait.
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Re: Game Thread – Celtics @ Hawks – 7:30PM, Thurs, March 28, 2024 

Post#644 » by TheMartian » Fri Mar 29, 2024 2:16 am

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Fierce1 wrote:It was more the Hawks than the Cs.

What the Cs should have done is doubled Murray immediately once KP was switched on Murray.

The Hawks found a weak spot in the Celtic defense.


They should have had White on him who absolutely locks Murray up because he knows how to time that cross over mid-range jumper. Jrue isn't quick enough.

Yeah, but credit Snyder, he knows what he's doing.

They hunted KP and KP went from being a hunter to being the hunted.


Snyder >>>>> Mazz
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Post#645 » by zoyathedestroya » Fri Mar 29, 2024 2:16 am

Setshot33 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:
Above The Rim wrote:Why did murray get off such a clean shot but Tatum can’t? I don’t get it.

JT not yet comfortable taking that mid-range shot in the clutch.

What JT does is tries to fish for foul and that makes him miss the shot.

It's a case of needing more experience, especially in the clutch.

Just another five years and two coaching changes and the light bulb will finally flicker on for Tatum and Brown.

LMFAO

Tatum and Brown lead the league in playoff minutes of players under 30 yo. Dunno how many more reps they need.
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Re: Game Thread – Celtics @ Hawks – 7:30PM, Thurs, March 28, 2024 

Post#646 » by Bird84 » Fri Mar 29, 2024 2:17 am

zoyathedestroya wrote:
Setshot33 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:JT not yet comfortable taking that mid-range shot in the clutch.

What JT does is tries to fish for foul and that makes him miss the shot.

It's a case of needing more experience, especially in the clutch.

Just another five years and two coaching changes and the light bulb will finally flicker on for Tatum and Brown.

LMFAO

Tatum and Brown lead the league in playoff minutes of players under 30 yo. Dunno how many more reps they need.

Bingo!
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Re: Game Thread – Celtics @ Hawks – 7:30PM, Thurs, March 28, 2024 

Post#647 » by zoyathedestroya » Fri Mar 29, 2024 2:18 am

ThePigeon wrote:
Above The Rim wrote:Why did murray get off such a clean shot but Tatum can’t? I don’t get it.


1. Because we play 'fair' - no manhandling or playin physical
2. Our screen setters are bad (except Queta)
3. Murray handle is better than JT's
4. Murray tries for the midrange while JT goes to the rim

JT doesn't have a faceup midrange game ala DeRozan or KD. So it's either a turnaround fadeaway or drive (which is harder to do).
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Re: Game Thread – Celtics @ Hawks – 7:30PM, Thurs, March 28, 2024 

Post#648 » by Fierce1 » Fri Mar 29, 2024 2:18 am

TheMartian wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:
Riverwalk2021 wrote:
They should have had White on him who absolutely locks Murray up because he knows how to time that cross over mid-range jumper. Jrue isn't quick enough.

Yeah, but credit Snyder, he knows what he's doing.

They hunted KP and KP went from being a hunter to being the hunted.


Snyder >>>>> Mazz

Yeah, I also prefer Snyder over Mazz.

But we all know Brad's agenda.

Mazzulla-ball is derived from the Brad Stevens coaching tree.

Guess it's a case of if Brad can't win a chip as coach, pass along the system to a guy he trusts and if the Cs win, they both get the credit.
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Re: Game Thread – Celtics @ Hawks – 7:30PM, Thurs, March 28, 2024 

Post#649 » by Fierce1 » Fri Mar 29, 2024 2:20 am

zoyathedestroya wrote:
ThePigeon wrote:
Above The Rim wrote:Why did murray get off such a clean shot but Tatum can’t? I don’t get it.


1. Because we play 'fair' - no manhandling or playin physical
2. Our screen setters are bad (except Queta)
3. Murray handle is better than JT's
4. Murray tries for the midrange while JT goes to the rim

JT doesn't have a faceup midrange game ala DeRozan or KD. So it's either a turnaround fadeaway or drive (which is harder to do).

That's why I keep saying he's not 100% of his full potential.

It's just a matter of time when JT will have a mid-range game like KD or DeRozan.

Next season we might see that from JT, but I doubt he develops that this season.

But who knows, he might develop that shot in the playoffs.
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Post#650 » by Triple7 » Fri Mar 29, 2024 2:22 am

ThePigeon wrote:
Above The Rim wrote:Why did murray get off such a clean shot but Tatum can’t? I don’t get it.


1. Because we play 'fair' - no manhandling or playin physical
2. Our screen setters are bad (except Queta)
3. Murray handle is better than JT's
4. Murray tries for the midrange while JT goes to the rim


Also, JT has a soft weak body. A little bump and he loses control of the ball. How many times has Jt missed on an and1 opportunity? He gets bumped and a he muffed a layup or easy bank shot.
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Re: Game Thread – Celtics @ Hawks – 7:30PM, Thurs, March 28, 2024 

Post#651 » by Triple7 » Fri Mar 29, 2024 2:23 am

Fierce1 wrote:
zoyathedestroya wrote:
ThePigeon wrote:
1. Because we play 'fair' - no manhandling or playin physical
2. Our screen setters are bad (except Queta)
3. Murray handle is better than JT's
4. Murray tries for the midrange while JT goes to the rim

JT doesn't have a faceup midrange game ala DeRozan or KD. So it's either a turnaround fadeaway or drive (which is harder to do).

That's why I keep saying he's not 100% of his full potential.

It's just a matter of time when JT will have a mid-range game like KD or DeRozan.

Next season we might see that from JT, but I doubt he develops that this season.

But who knows, he might develop that shot in the playoffs.


Lol. You are definitely something else haha
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Post#652 » by Fierce1 » Fri Mar 29, 2024 2:27 am

Triple7 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:
zoyathedestroya wrote:JT doesn't have a faceup midrange game ala DeRozan or KD. So it's either a turnaround fadeaway or drive (which is harder to do).

That's why I keep saying he's not 100% of his full potential.

It's just a matter of time when JT will have a mid-range game like KD or DeRozan.

Next season we might see that from JT, but I doubt he develops that this season.

But who knows, he might develop that shot in the playoffs.


Lol. You are definitely something else haha

You're the one saying the Cs should win it now.

But then you contradict yourself by saying JT is not clutch.

I keep saying it, the Cs are good enough to win it all because they will most likely get out of the east, but there are late game issues that the Cs have yet to fix.

That's why next year is the highest chance of the Cs winning it all because they will be a year older.

Every year the Jays have gotten better.

I don't see that trend not continuing next season.

JT will get stronger and better next season.

JB is close to being a finished product.
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Re: Game Thread – Celtics @ Hawks – 7:30PM, Thurs, March 28, 2024 

Post#653 » by Fierce1 » Fri Mar 29, 2024 2:34 am

Triple7 wrote:
ThePigeon wrote:
Above The Rim wrote:Why did murray get off such a clean shot but Tatum can’t? I don’t get it.


1. Because we play 'fair' - no manhandling or playin physical
2. Our screen setters are bad (except Queta)
3. Murray handle is better than JT's
4. Murray tries for the midrange while JT goes to the rim


Also, JT has a soft weak body. A little bump and he loses control of the ball. How many times has Jt missed on an and1 opportunity? He gets bumped and a he muffed a layup or easy bank shot.

Now you're finally getting it.

JT is not as strong as JB yet.

You're absolutely correct with that observation.

The solution is a fully developed NBA body.

And that only happens as the player gets older.
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Post#654 » by Triple7 » Fri Mar 29, 2024 2:42 am

Fierce1 wrote:
Triple7 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:That's why I keep saying he's not 100% of his full potential.

It's just a matter of time when JT will have a mid-range game like KD or DeRozan.

Next season we might see that from JT, but I doubt he develops that this season.

But who knows, he might develop that shot in the playoffs.


Lol. You are definitely something else haha

You're the one saying the Cs should win it now.

But then you contradict yourself by saying JT is not clutch.

I keep saying it, the Cs are good enough to win it all because they will most likely get out of the east, but there are late game issues that the Cs have yet to fix.

That's why next year is the highest chance of the Cs winning it all because they will be a year older.

Every year the Jays have gotten better.

I don't see that trend not continuing next season.

JT will get stronger and better next season.

JB is close to being a finished product.


How am i contradicting myself???
Yeah i said it we need to win it right now. We have a good chance though, but i don’t trust Jt in late game situations. Good thing we hava a bunch of other good players. Of course, JT and JB would get better next season no doubt, but their mentality is the one that is lacking. JT especially.
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Post#655 » by Triple7 » Fri Mar 29, 2024 2:44 am

Fierce1 wrote:
Triple7 wrote:
ThePigeon wrote:
1. Because we play 'fair' - no manhandling or playin physical
2. Our screen setters are bad (except Queta)
3. Murray handle is better than JT's
4. Murray tries for the midrange while JT goes to the rim


Also, JT has a soft weak body. A little bump and he loses control of the ball. How many times has Jt missed on an and1 opportunity? He gets bumped and a he muffed a layup or easy bank shot.

Now you're finally getting it.

JT is not as strong as JB yet.

You're absolutely correct with that observation.

The solution is a fully developed NBA body.

And that only happens as the player gets older.


Lol no. He doesn’t have the body control and inner strength. Iverson gets bumped all the time going inside as a rookie. He’s 26 lol. That’s a grown ass man. Stop it with that.
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Post#656 » by Fierce1 » Fri Mar 29, 2024 2:51 am

Triple7 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:
Triple7 wrote:
Lol. You are definitely something else haha

You're the one saying the Cs should win it now.

But then you contradict yourself by saying JT is not clutch.

I keep saying it, the Cs are good enough to win it all because they will most likely get out of the east, but there are late game issues that the Cs have yet to fix.

That's why next year is the highest chance of the Cs winning it all because they will be a year older.

Every year the Jays have gotten better.

I don't see that trend not continuing next season.

JT will get stronger and better next season.

JB is close to being a finished product.


How am i contradicting myself???
Yeah i said it we need to win it right now. We have a good chance though, but i don’t trust Jt in late game situations. Good thing we hava a bunch of other good players. Of course, JT and JB would get better next season no doubt, but their mentality is the one that is lacking. JT especially.

That's the contradiction right there.

Got news for you, the Cs will only go as far as where JT takes them.

You're kidding yourself if you think the other guys will step up when JT or JB fails to deliver.

Will the ball go to White or Jrue for the game winning shot?

The Celtics and us fans are at the mercy of JT because the ball will be in his hands when it's winning time.
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Post#657 » by Triple7 » Fri Mar 29, 2024 6:08 am

Fierce1 wrote:
Triple7 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:You're the one saying the Cs should win it now.

But then you contradict yourself by saying JT is not clutch.

I keep saying it, the Cs are good enough to win it all because they will most likely get out of the east, but there are late game issues that the Cs have yet to fix.

That's why next year is the highest chance of the Cs winning it all because they will be a year older.

Every year the Jays have gotten better.

I don't see that trend not continuing next season.

JT will get stronger and better next season.

JB is close to being a finished product.


How am i contradicting myself???
Yeah i said it we need to win it right now. We have a good chance though, but i don’t trust Jt in late game situations. Good thing we hava a bunch of other good players. Of course, JT and JB would get better next season no doubt, but their mentality is the one that is lacking. JT especially.

That's the contradiction right there.

Got news for you, the Cs will only go as far as where JT takes them.

You're kidding yourself if you think the other guys will step up when JT or JB fails to deliver.

Will the ball go to White or Jrue for the game winning shot?

The Celtics and us fans are at the mercy of JT because the ball will be in his hands when it's winning time.


Dude are you drunk?? Lol
You have weird posts all over. How tf am i contradicting myself?? You are just saying it and highlighting what i said, but it doesn’t make sense. If i’m saying we need to win now, and i don’t trust JT, how is that contradicting? Haha
Last year we can’t win it all unless JT steps up, now, we don’t need him to. We just need him to defer to JB at end of games because JB has a better chance of pulling a shot of because of his ability to drive and hit a mid range shot. I have almost totally lost faih in Jt ever delivering in the clutch. Both times against the cavs, and now against the hawks, he came out flat. Meanwhile, Dejounte have been hitting shots.
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Post#658 » by Triple7 » Fri Mar 29, 2024 6:10 am

Fierce1 wrote:
Triple7 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:You're the one saying the Cs should win it now.

But then you contradict yourself by saying JT is not clutch.

I keep saying it, the Cs are good enough to win it all because they will most likely get out of the east, but there are late game issues that the Cs have yet to fix.

That's why next year is the highest chance of the Cs winning it all because they will be a year older.

Every year the Jays have gotten better.

I don't see that trend not continuing next season.

JT will get stronger and better next season.

JB is close to being a finished product.


How am i contradicting myself???
Yeah i said it we need to win it right now. We have a good chance though, but i don’t trust Jt in late game situations. Good thing we hava a bunch of other good players. Of course, JT and JB would get better next season no doubt, but their mentality is the one that is lacking. JT especially.

That's the contradiction right there.

Got news for you, the Cs will only go as far as where JT takes them.

You're kidding yourself if you think the other guys will step up when JT or JB fails to deliver.

Will the ball go to White or Jrue for the game winning shot?

The Celtics and us fans are at the mercy of JT because the ball will be in his hands when it's winning time.


Oh **** us then. I have more faith in JB hitting the shot actually. He did hit a clutch jumper the previous play, before JT missed a pressure free throw.
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Post#659 » by Fierce1 » Fri Mar 29, 2024 9:21 am

Triple7 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:
Triple7 wrote:
How am i contradicting myself???
Yeah i said it we need to win it right now. We have a good chance though, but i don’t trust Jt in late game situations. Good thing we hava a bunch of other good players. Of course, JT and JB would get better next season no doubt, but their mentality is the one that is lacking. JT especially.

That's the contradiction right there.

Got news for you, the Cs will only go as far as where JT takes them.

You're kidding yourself if you think the other guys will step up when JT or JB fails to deliver.

Will the ball go to White or Jrue for the game winning shot?

The Celtics and us fans are at the mercy of JT because the ball will be in his hands when it's winning time.


Dude are you drunk?? Lol
You have weird posts all over. How tf am i contradicting myself?? You are just saying it and highlighting what i said, but it doesn’t make sense. If i’m saying we need to win now, and i don’t trust JT, how is that contradicting? Haha
Last year we can’t win it all unless JT steps up, now, we don’t need him to. We just need him to defer to JB at end of games because JB has a better chance of pulling a shot of because of his ability to drive and hit a mid range shot. I have almost totally lost faih in Jt ever delivering in the clutch. Both times against the cavs, and now against the hawks, he came out flat. Meanwhile, Dejounte have been hitting shots.

Reality is the last shot or the ball will be in JT's hands when the game is on the line.

If you really think the supporting cast is will be able to compensate for JT's late game issues then you're fooling yourself.

The ball will be in JT's hands when the game is on the line.

It's either JT makes the shot or he makes a pass that will result in the game winning shot.

That's how it's going to be in the playoffs.
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Post#660 » by BK_2020 » Fri Mar 29, 2024 3:29 pm

Triple7 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:
Triple7 wrote:
How am i contradicting myself???
Yeah i said it we need to win it right now. We have a good chance though, but i don’t trust Jt in late game situations. Good thing we hava a bunch of other good players. Of course, JT and JB would get better next season no doubt, but their mentality is the one that is lacking. JT especially.

That's the contradiction right there.

Got news for you, the Cs will only go as far as where JT takes them.

You're kidding yourself if you think the other guys will step up when JT or JB fails to deliver.

Will the ball go to White or Jrue for the game winning shot?

The Celtics and us fans are at the mercy of JT because the ball will be in his hands when it's winning time.


Dude are you drunk?? Lol
You have weird posts all over. How tf am i contradicting myself?? You are just saying it and highlighting what i said, but it doesn’t make sense. If i’m saying we need to win now, and i don’t trust JT, how is that contradicting? Haha
Last year we can’t win it all unless JT steps up, now, we don’t need him to. We just need him to defer to JB at end of games because JB has a better chance of pulling a shot of because of his ability to drive and hit a mid range shot. I have almost totally lost faih in Jt ever delivering in the clutch. Both times against the cavs, and now against the hawks, he came out flat. Meanwhile, Dejounte have been hitting shots.

Jaylen was able to get a good look because Joe set up a play using KP and Tatum to pull the defense away, letting Jaylen get the ball on the move against single coverage by a trash defender. If you give Jaylen the ball and let him ISO you end up with Jaylen driving into the corner to get himself triple teamed.

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