Best Pitcher of 1990's: Greg Maddux or Roger Clemens?

randomhero423 · Post #1 » by **randomhero423** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:51 pm

Who was better from 1990-2000? Everyone is telling me Clemens still but i Don't buy it. Maddux was more consistent 15-19 game winner, and had a SENSATIONAL 19-2 season with a era below TWO. He also didn't cheat, while Clemens did (which gave him the two great years as a 'jay). Maddux has always been severely underrated to the likes of guys like Randy Johnson, Roger Clemens, etc.

a-rod · Post #2 » by **a-rod** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:28 am

randomhero423 wrote:Who was better from 1990-2000? Everyone is telling me Clemens still but i Don't buy it. Maddux was more consistent 15-19 game winner, and had a SENSATIONAL 19-2 season with a era below TWO. He also didn't cheat, while Clemens did (which gave him the two great years as a 'jay). Maddux has always been severely underrated to the likes of guys like Randy Johnson, Roger Clemens, etc.

Question asked, question answered.

Post #3 » by **Bleeding Green** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 5:03 am

Maddux. Just look at how many more innings he threw. And with a much better ERA.

Clemens: 2177 IP, 3.02 ERA
Maddux: 2394 IP, 2.54 ERA

SDM · Post #4 » by **SDM** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:49 pm

Maddux's '94 and '95 seasons were two of the top five ERA+ performances in history.

bringinhinkie · Post #5 » by **bringinhinkie** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 5:05 am

maddox

LaCosaNostra · Post #6 » by **LaCosaNostra** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 5:32 am

I'll take the late 90's Pedro.

High 5 · Post #7 » by **High 5** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:28 pm

Mad Dog.

34Celtic · Post #8 » by **34Celtic** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 3:33 am

LaCosaNostra wrote:I'll take the late 90's Pedro.

SportsWorld · Post #9 » by **SportsWorld** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 4:40 am

Maddux

TSC25 · Post #10 » by **TSC25** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 5:01 am

randomhero423 wrote:Who was better from 1990-2000? Everyone is telling me Clemens still but i Don't buy it. Maddux was more consistent 15-19 game winner, and had a SENSATIONAL 19-2 season with a era below TWO. He also didn't cheat, while Clemens did (which gave him the two great years as a 'jay). Maddux has always been severely underrated to the likes of guys like Randy Johnson, Roger Clemens, etc.

I'm not a Clemens fan nor BlueJays fan,but how did Clemens cheat?

litex · Post #11 » by **litex** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:42 am

I'll take Pedro's 2 best years over any 2 years either of those guys had, but overall, I'd have to say Maddux.

Post #12 » by **dbenton** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:08 pm

I would take Maddux because he is so consistent and at a high level. In some ways, he redefined the way you look for pitching because he proved you didn't need to be a flamethrower to be successful at this level.

Dirty Water · Post #13 » by **Dirty Water** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 3:59 am

I'll take Johnson.

hermes · Post #14 » by **hermes** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:06 pm

greg maddux

Howling Mad · Post #15 » by **Howling Mad** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:27 pm

If Maddux took HGH, Steroids, or any other performance enhancing drug, he'd be pitching in the mid 90's.

With that speed complimented by his almost-perfect pitching brain, he would've got 10 Cy Youngs compared to Roger's 7.

Howling Mad · Post #16 » by **Howling Mad** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:27 pm

So yeah... Maddux.