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Come on Smills! I
this sucks ! gasol traded to the lakers !
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I guess you have selective memory..I've offered up Kevin Martin for Gasol in my posts. Give me a break...I was ALL for trading for Gasol for a LONG while now...most my Kings dawgs will back me up on that.
And I've ever supported you with this idea. It's a freaking steal for the Lakers, IMO they're contenders now. Well, the Celtics-Lakers era come back 20 years later. Sorry for Lakers haters.
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xx_skaterdude_xx wrote:THE TITLE FAVORITES!
Woah, calm down with that.... Boston, Detroit, San Antonio, Dallas are still around, and possibly New Orleans (depending how they go in post-season and beyond). I don't include Phoenix because they're a pretender, and now have another balanced team to possibly deal with and eventually lose to.
The Lakers in general just got a lot better, but they still have to establish themselves as an elite team. A top title contender and team? Oh yeah. But they still haven't established themselves in the playoffs and over a full season yet, when they do that in the right way, the they'll be elite. That'll begin when Bynum gets back to play with the rest of the team.
Elite teams aren't made in a few months, only unless they make the finals or win the title later on that year. It's never been like the former. The Lakers aren't all of a sudden above all the other title contending teams in the league. That's overreacting a bit.
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Assuming you did offered K-Mart before but what I'm saying is the package you mentioned above of Gasol for Hawes, Artest and a '08 pick which I truly doubt you will agree to it in a trade discussion prior to the Gasol trade. Show me a post of yours in the past which is close to that deal, and then I will agree with you.Smills wrote:I guess you have selective memory..I've offered up Kevin Martin for Gasol in my posts. Give me a break...I was ALL for trading for Gasol for a LONG while now...most my Kings dawgs will back me up on that.
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Ballings7 wrote:Well another positive is that'll make for even more good and intriguing basketball. Regardless of how somebody feels about the Lakers.
If "good and intriguing basketball" is important to you, why not just put all the All-Stars on 10 different teams, while the rest rebuild? I mean...it would be "good and intriguing basketball"...
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xx_skaterdude_xx wrote:If "good and intriguing basketball" is important to you, why not just put all the All-Stars on 10 different teams, while the rest rebuild? I mean...it would be "good and intriguing basketball"...
As a fan of the league too, it's definitely relevant and important to me. As well as a given each season.
But you're exaggerating what I said. What I meant simply was Gasol going to the Lakers will only create bigger, better, and more exciting games and playoff series. It just adds to what was already there and would be there in the future.
So in that respect, it absolutely is another positive from this trade. Maybe not for you, but for many others.
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personally i am not upset the kings did not get gasol at all i dont believe he was the right fit for us and his salary is to high for what we are looking to do as a franchise !
i am just upset that the L.A.FAKERS got him !
i hope he breaks his leg ! lol,lol
i am just upset that the L.A.FAKERS got him !
i hope he breaks his leg ! lol,lol
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They moved Swift for Jason Freaking Collins!!!! And you USUALLY rebuild with young players that you NEED. What do they need with JC when they have Lowry AND Conley to play PG? He's not a SG!
For some reason I thought Josh Boon was also in the mix...maybe I was hallucinating (working Fridays does that to me).
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yea obviously they're dumping a contract, but they could have gotten a better deal. what the hell they're going to do with another Point guard and LATE 1st round picks. atleast trade him to the EAST
Having a bunch of young guys at the same position is not a bad thing, it gives them options and assets for future deals.
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Having a bunch of young guys at the same position is not a bad thing, it gives them options and assets for future deals.
Except if you have a bunch of young guys who all play PG, there won't be enough time to show what kind of players they are and what they deserve to be traded for.
We can say Quincy will be great all we want, but until he starts BACKING it up with playing time and numbers....no one will believe us.
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The more I think about it the more I like the idea of Artest/Kenny Thomas for Odom. It wouldn't be a long term thing for us either, as Odom expires after next season. Also Odom will play a lot better in a freelance offense as a playmaker than in the triangle. He'll also improve our rebounding and we can move Mikke to the bench. Getting rid of Thomas would be the main part of the deal though. We would look like:
Bibby/Udrih
Martin/Douby/Jones
Salmons/Garcia
Odom/Moore/SAR
Miller/Hawes/Williams
Bibby/Udrih
Martin/Douby/Jones
Salmons/Garcia
Odom/Moore/SAR
Miller/Hawes/Williams
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sackings916 wrote:The more I think about it the more I like the idea of Artest/Kenny Thomas for Odom. It wouldn't be a long term thing for us either, as Odom expires after next season. Also Odom will play a lot better in a freelance offense as a playmaker than in the triangle. He'll also improve our rebounding and we can move Mikke to the bench. Getting rid of Thomas would be the main part of the deal though. We would look like:
Bibby/Udrih
Martin/Douby/Jones
Salmons/Garcia
Odom/Moore/SAR
Miller/Hawes/Williams
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sackings916 wrote:The more I think about it the more I like the idea of Artest/Kenny Thomas for Odom. It wouldn't be a long term thing for us either, as Odom expires after next season. Also Odom will play a lot better in a freelance offense as a playmaker than in the triangle. He'll also improve our rebounding and we can move Mikke to the bench. Getting rid of Thomas would be the main part of the deal though. We would look like:
Bibby/Udrih
Martin/Douby/Jones
Salmons/Garcia
Odom/Moore/SAR
Miller/Hawes/Williams
Now that they got Gasol's contract, they can't take on KT...
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sackings916 wrote:But they're losing Odom's salary, so basically its an extra year of salary in the 2009-2010 season. They'd have to decide if the upgrade of Artest over Odom is worth that.
Yes but you see...with Brown gone and Gasol instead, they are already taking on extra salary..Therefore, they would have to go over the tax to re-sign Artest.
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As stated in this thread already I wouldn't be surprised if this deal opens up a number of other deals around league--specifically in the western conference. When one team gets strong the other teams challenging them need to get stronger too.
After this I could really see a team like Dallas trying to make a major splash for a Kidd or Artest to bolster their team.
After this I could really see a team like Dallas trying to make a major splash for a Kidd or Artest to bolster their team.