Kobe2ndFiddle wrote:the fact that Dirk was referred to as a "bust" early on in his career should disqualify him from even being mentioned in the top 3.
What difference does that make? He's been an elite player for 12 years now.
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Kobe2ndFiddle wrote:the fact that Dirk was referred to as a "bust" early on in his career should disqualify him from even being mentioned in the top 3.
Doctor MJ wrote:In other words, Simmons doesn't really think like a logical, rational analyst...which we already knew. He's still funny.
PippenAintEasy wrote:Kobe2ndFiddle wrote:McHale
Barkely
Malone
Garnett
Duncan (yes he's a PF)
so which one of these guys is Dirk better than ? I'll wait all day.
Mchale easily. Barkley maybe. Malone, probably not.
Sedale Threatt wrote:Kobe2ndFiddle wrote:the fact that Dirk was referred to as a "bust" early on in his career should disqualify him from even being mentioned in the top 3.
What difference does that make?
Sedale Threatt wrote:Kobe2ndFiddle wrote:the fact that Dirk was referred to as a "bust" early on in his career should disqualify him from even being mentioned in the top 3.
What difference does that make? He's been an elite player for 12 years now.
Kobe2ndFiddle wrote:Garnett has been elite since 99', has a championship like Dirk, an MVP like Dirk plus a DPOY.
The only case you can make for Dirk over Garnett is FMVP. Dirk is not a top 2 PF, no way in hell.
Kobe2ndFiddle wrote:McHale
Barkely
Malone
Garnett
Duncan (yes he's a PF)
so which one of these guys is Dirk better than ? I'll wait all day.
bertrob wrote:richboy wrote:He probably just forgot KG. I would say that Dirk is in the conversation. He has a strong case to be pretty much equal to KG in his career. Many people have KG as the second best PF ever. I would take Dirk over Malone. IMO Karl Malone the most un clutch player in league history maybe. I might take him over Barkley as well.
Does him not being clutch, a term that is subject to anyone's interpretation, cancel out his massive career achievements?
Sedale Threatt wrote:Kobe2ndFiddle wrote:Garnett has been elite since 99', has a championship like Dirk, an MVP like Dirk plus a DPOY.
The only case you can make for Dirk over Garnett is FMVP. Dirk is not a top 2 PF, no way in hell.
I'm not trying to make a case for him over Garnett. Duncan (who I consider a center), Malone and very probably Barkley either. But McHale? He was not on Dirk's level, especially when longevity is taken into account.
Besides, I want to hear the logic of why Dirk, because he struggled as a 20-year-old rookie playing in a foreign country, should be automatically excluded from the discussion.
Doctor MJ wrote:In other words, Simmons doesn't really think like a logical, rational analyst...which we already knew. He's still funny.
JordansBulls wrote:Doctor MJ wrote:In other words, Simmons doesn't really think like a logical, rational analyst...which we already knew. He's still funny.
What do you mean? Have you read his book at all?
Doctor MJ wrote:In other words, Simmons doesn't really think like a logical, rational analyst...which we already knew. He's still funny.
JordansBulls wrote:Doctor MJ wrote:In other words, Simmons doesn't really think like a logical, rational analyst...which we already knew. He's still funny.
What do you mean? Have you read his book at all?
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RichardsRival3 wrote:JordansBulls wrote:Doctor MJ wrote:In other words, Simmons doesn't really think like a logical, rational analyst...which we already knew. He's still funny.
What do you mean? Have you read his book at all?
I think he means, if it can't be found in a box score, then it isn't logical or rational.
Doctor MJ wrote:RichardsRival3 wrote:JordansBulls wrote:What do you mean? Have you read his book at all?
I think he means, if it can't be found in a box score, then it isn't logical or rational.
You think poorly then.