Lucroy extended: 5 years, club option for 6th

Post #1 » by **ReasonablySober** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:50 pm

It's either a 4 or 5 year deal. 4 takes him through his arby years.

Edit: It's for five years.

Captain Erv · Post #2 » by **Captain Erv** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:06 pm

Fine with it. Time to reign in Greinke.

Post #3 » by **ReasonablySober** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:29 pm

In related news, the Brewers are going to let Marcum get to free agency. I'll say the same thing about the trade that I did last year. If he helps the Brewers get to the World Series I won't care that we gave up Laurie.

WEFFPIM · Post #4 » by **WEFFPIM** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:41 am

5 years, at least $11 million. Doesn't break down evenly each season because of arbitration stuff.

Solid move. Greinke should be next.

MiltownMadness · Post #5 » by **MiltownMadness** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:43 am

Good move, big fan of Lucroy.

Need to lock up Greinke now.

BUCKnation · Post #6 » by **BUCKnation** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:46 am

Im assuming thats $11 million total. If so, great deal.

RiotPunch · Post #7 » by **RiotPunch** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:49 am

Nice!

WEFFPIM wrote:Greinke should be next.

I hope so.

WiscSports1 · Post #8 » by **WiscSports1** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:06 am

$11 million is such a great deal. I would have expected 5/15 for sure.

BigDee · Post #9 » by **BigDee** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:41 pm

I agree good deal...now get Greinke done.

Post #10 » by **ReasonablySober** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:33 pm

Most of us probably remember the research that suggested Lucroy was exceptional at framing pitches. Rob Neyer put that in perspective:

The most important thing is that he's a catcher. Granted, he's a catcher who doesn't throw well. But there's evidence that he does something else exceptionally well. According to Mike Fast's research, over the last two seasons Lucroy's ability to frame pitches -- for lack of a better label -- led to more "extra" strikes than any other catcher in the major leagues. According to this measure, Lucroy saved nearly 40 runs above average, which is equivalent to roughly four wins ... Which means instead of being roughly four Wins Above Replacement, he's actually been eight Wins Above Replacement ... and if that's right, he's also been worth around $32 million over the last two seasons.

MrLynch07 · Post #11 » by **MrLynch07** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:38 pm

I was hoping something like this would happen, he's arguably my favorite brewer. I agree its time to lock down Greinke now.

Post #12 » by **MickeyDavis** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:35 pm

I wonder how they determine what's a "framed" pitch. Interesting stat though.

DigitalFool · Post #13 » by **DigitalFool** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:45 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:I wonder how they determine what's a "framed" pitch. Interesting stat though.

This?

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Post #14 » by **MickeyDavis** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:02 am

Perfect

BUCKnation · Post #15 » by **BUCKnation** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:14 am

This really is an amazing deal. About 2 mil a year for a pretty good defensive catcher, who will be fine on offense and does the little things.

Post #16 » by **jr lucosa** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:00 pm

5 years 11 million is a great deal I don't know how anyone can't like that. Bill Michaels was talking about it yesterday and he was saying every catcher gets compared to Johnny Bench and Mike Piazza and that Lucroy wasn't at that level. Man he's such an idiot.

Kerb Hohl · Post #17 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:45 pm

Not only is Michaels an idiot, but as long as LuCroy didn't get hurt...this is what he would have gotten paid anyways through his years of arbitration.

He basically gave us a year of his free agency for financial security if he gets a career-ending injury tomorrow.

That's one of the more annoying things when nobody realizes that these guys are under team control regardless. My Facebook blew up with "zOMG Gallardo will be a Brewer for 5 more years!" when at the time he was, what, 4 years still within team control?

El Duderino · Post #18 » by **El Duderino** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 12:55 am

GrendonJennings wrote:Not only is Michaels an idiot, but as long as LuCroy didn't get hurt...this is what he would have gotten paid anyways through his years of arbitration.

He basically gave us a year of his free agency for financial security if he gets a career-ending injury tomorrow.

He may have ended up making more through his years of arbitration if he continues to improve as a player.

That said, your main point is true and i understand why young players sign contracts like this, especially pitchers. Sure, if they stay healthy the odds are that they'll have left money on the table, but being able to secure 10-25 million depending on the quality of the player is worth securing their financial future for the most part in case of serious injury. A lot of these guys have a wife and kid/kids and i believe Lucroy does himself, 11 million dollars guaranteed goes a long way to making sure his family is set up well, even if something terrible happened to him.

jimmybones · Post #19 » by **jimmybones** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 12:35 pm

jr lucosa wrote:5 years 11 million is a great deal I don't know how anyone can't like that. Bill Michaels was talking about it yesterday and he was saying every catcher gets compared to Johnny Bench and Mike Piazza and that Lucroy wasn't at that level. Man he's such an idiot.

Bill Michaels is reallyyyyy bad.

neiLz · Post #20 » by **neiLz** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:44 pm

Great deal and Value for what we paid. Lucroy is a SOLID catcher. 11 mil for 5 years is a great value... Considering what STL paid for Molina.... He is obviously better than Lucroy, but I prefer Lucroy at 2 mil over what they paid molina, any day.