What Do You Want To Happen With Ellis?
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If he had just stopped at "shoot himself", I would have been happy. Someone please buy that man a moped.
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coolhandluke121 wrote:Someone please buy that man a moped.
Give him a moped and a hot FO secretary, the rest will take care of itself.
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WRau1 wrote:I was happy until I read "outta this slump"
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"Sad" sure, but "pathetic" might be an even better choice:
Monta hasn't shot above 46% for a season since 2007-2008. That's also how long it has been since he was an above average shooter (for a shooting guard). Don't you think a star should be above average?
How much shooting will it take to get out of this 4+ year slump?
Ellis has to get some standards. Why hasn't Skiles benched him more when he has dragged the team down?
(Also, Wiretap, your source's name is Gardner, not Garner.)
OTOH, maybe if Monta stops thinking of himself as a shooting star, he could have more games like yesterday's against the Nets: 8 for 12 from 2 and only one shot (and miss) from 3. And he could still have the occasional big night when his stars align.
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Yeah I was gunna say, Monta's been shooting his way out of a slump for 5 seasons now.
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sling shot 3 wrote:Monta hasn't shot above 46% for a season since 2007-2008.
But this season is different. His eFG his last three seasons with GSW (all after 07-08):
.493
.463
.469
His eFG this season:
.417
He's definitely in a slump compared to his norm.
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Baddy Chuck wrote:Yeah I was gunna say, Monta's been shooting his way out of a slump for 5 seasons now.
Thought the same thing
And tbh a good coach would tell him not to settle for the jumper and attack the rim more.
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paul wrote:coolhandluke121 wrote:Someone please buy that man a moped.
Give him a moped
Seriously, this could be the next bag night. We could all pitch in a few bucks and have it delivered to the Cousins Center. Maybe Hammond/Kohl/Skiles would take the hint.
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Do people really think teams are going to be lining up to give this guy a long term contract over $10M?
The longer this slump continues, the higher likelihood he will opt-in.
Everybody should be cheering for him to start playing better because I doubt he's going to the bench.
The better he plays, the better we will play, the more trade value he holds and the higher chance he opts out.
The longer this slump continues, the higher likelihood he will opt-in.
Everybody should be cheering for him to start playing better because I doubt he's going to the bench.
The better he plays, the better we will play, the more trade value he holds and the higher chance he opts out.
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Let make it a true "FTD II" season and bring Salmons back.
Evans & Salmons
for
Ellis & Dalembert
Evans & Salmons
for
Ellis & Dalembert
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Lippo wrote:Let make it a true "FTD II" season and bring Salmons back.
Evans & Salmons
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Ellis & Dalembert
mlloyd10 wrote:Let's get back to FTD with this trade
Bucks Get: Salmons, Evans and 1st
Kings Get: Ellis and Harris
Suggested this a couple pages back....Kings need a SF of the future, with having Robinson at the 4 and Cousins at the 5, and this would be more realistic
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New Trade Idea
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=b6o9vcx
Bucks get: Matthews
Blazers get: Gortat and Dudley
Suns get: Ellis and Leonard
Why Bucks?
Simply put, Ellis is a terrible fit next to Jennings
Why Blazers?
They realize that the clock is ticking on Aldridge. He is in his prime now and pairing him with Gortat would make them better
Why Suns?
Suns are a terrible team, but get their C of the Future and Monta is someone they can market around
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=b6o9vcx
Bucks get: Matthews
Blazers get: Gortat and Dudley
Suns get: Ellis and Leonard
Why Bucks?
Simply put, Ellis is a terrible fit next to Jennings
Why Blazers?
They realize that the clock is ticking on Aldridge. He is in his prime now and pairing him with Gortat would make them better
Why Suns?
Suns are a terrible team, but get their C of the Future and Monta is someone they can market around
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Those Kings trades are awful. Maybe a Monta/Evans swap, but taking Salmons for an expiring is ludicrous. They aren't giving up their first either so you can forget about that.
That Blazers/Suns trade doesn't look awful though. I don't see the Blazers doing it in all honesty though unless Matthews is out for a while with that hip injury.
That Blazers/Suns trade doesn't look awful though. I don't see the Blazers doing it in all honesty though unless Matthews is out for a while with that hip injury.
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I don't think the Suns are going to trade Gortat for anyone in that package.
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floppymoose wrote:I don't think the Suns are going to trade Gortat for anyone in that package.
Gortat is not happy in PHX and might demand a trade soon. It would be a good package
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Baddy Chuck wrote:Those Kings trades are awful. Maybe a Monta/Evans swap, but taking Salmons for an expiring is ludicrous. They aren't giving up their first either so you can forget about that.
That Blazers/Suns trade doesn't look awful though. I don't see the Blazers doing it in all honesty though unless Matthews is out for a while with that hip injury.
No Evans, regardless of what's going out, ever. Remember, Evans = nutpunch.
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I don't think any team gives up much for Monta at this point. He is a looming free agent, he dominates the ball, and he doesn't play defense. That would make a him a dynamite sixth man on a team pushing for a title, but how many championship contenders are willing to give up much of anything in a trade for a sixth man?
I can tell you one possibility that could be intriguing to you though: Monta + Larry Sanders for Javale McGee. McGee is a knucklehead in a long term deal, but he's a 7 foot athlete that would help your center situation. And Denver might want to take on Monta to push their level up and help their SG situation.
I can tell you one possibility that could be intriguing to you though: Monta + Larry Sanders for Javale McGee. McGee is a knucklehead in a long term deal, but he's a 7 foot athlete that would help your center situation. And Denver might want to take on Monta to push their level up and help their SG situation.
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Lucky Striker wrote:I don't think any team gives up much for Monta at this point. He is a looming free agent, he dominates the ball, and he doesn't play defense. That would make a him a dynamite sixth man on a team pushing for a title, but how many championship contenders are willing to give up much of anything in a trade for a sixth man?
I can tell you one possibility that could be intriguing to you though: Monta + Larry Sanders for Javale McGee. McGee is a knucklehead in a long term deal, but he's a 7 foot athlete that would help your center situation. And Denver might want to take on Monta to push their level up and help their SG situation.
I consider Sanders a better prospect than Javale, so I'd pass on this deal.
At this point, I'll send Ellis for whatever the best young player or pick is.
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Denver Trades: Igoudala, Mozgov
Milwaukee Trades: Ellis, Dalembert, 13 1st
Milwaukee Trades: Ellis, Dalembert, 13 1st
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youngthegiant wrote:Denver Trades: Igoudala, Mozgov
Milwaukee Trades: Ellis, Dalembert, 13 1st
Make it top 10 protected and you have yourself a deal.