Never Wrong wrote:Sacramento too poor
I know its so funny. They need to accept their poverty and move on. LMAO 19 freaking owners.
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Never Wrong wrote:Sacramento too poor
deNIEd wrote:tfmiii wrote:impressive display of numbers, but I don't think they sway Stern
he will be looking at TV $$ not arena attendance
Seattle is a bigger TV market (12th), also has regional clout
whereas Sacto, while the 20th market, lacks regional clout due to relative proximity to bay area
TV is where the $$$ is, i would guess merchandising would also tilt in seatle's favor as well
sadly NBA is a corporate league, not a fan base league
how does that explain OKC? I dunno, perhaps due to regional presence (OK, No Tx, Ks)?
Memphis, NO, Cha??? all i can think is that these are regions where NBA sees future econ/pop growth, and already existing college bball fan base.
perhaps someone on this board may have some more insight, this is the best I can figure off the top of my head
I'm sure KJ/Sacramento will present studies showing the actual differences in market sizes for sports between Seattle and Sacramento.
Why Seattle is larger (Sacramento is 20th I believe), the actual difference should be a lot smaller (if any) simply as Seattle has the MLB and NFL to compete with, as well as a premiere collegiate athletic program. Sacramento has absolutely nothing in terms of competition. It's the NBA and that's about it...no other major professional sports and local collegiate sports are not at an elite level by any means.
Shv3d wrote:Frank Mulely wrote:Honestly if this was the 80s
The official motto of RealGM.
Frank Mulely wrote:expansion is just creating more helpless teams with no chance of competing..
Devilzsidewalk wrote:DB is like the ultimate Wolves troll
CrymeTime wrote:If the King relocate, I wonder if the NBA would consider a 2 team expansion, sort of like when Charlotte was promised an expansion team after losing the hornets.
Sacramento and Vancouver should get a second chance.
Also, the West is insanely strong. So if you moved 1 team to the East, and added 2 expansion teams, you can balance out the conferences abit.
Western Conference
NorthWest Division
Seattle
Vancouver (expansion)
Portland
Utah
California Division
Sacramento (expansion)
Golden State
LA Clippers
LA Lakers
SouthWest Division
San Antonio
Houston
Dallas
Phoenix
Needs a name
Denver
Oklahoma City
New Orleans
Memphis/Minnesota
Eastern Conference
Central Division
Chicago
Milwaukee
Minnesota/Memphis
Indiana
Needs a Name
Toronto
Detroit
Cleveland
Washington
North East Division
New York
Brooklyn
Philadelphia
Boston
South East Division
Atlanta
Charlotte
Orlando
Miami
VS Division: 4 games x 3 teams = 12 games
VS rest of Conference: 3 games x 12 teams = 36 games (alternate every year who gets 1 home, 2 road game)
VS other Conference: 2 games x 16 teams = 32 games
Total of 80 games per season
Division winners are guaranteed a playoff spot, but not top 4.
fart wrote:I agree. get over it people. MJ is ridicoulsly overrated that people have developed this perception that no one can challenge him for GOAT.
CrymeTime wrote:If the King relocate, I wonder if the NBA would consider a 2 team expansion, sort of like when Charlotte was promised an expansion team after losing the hornets.
Sacramento and Vancouver should get a second chance.
Also, the West is insanely strong. So if you moved 1 team to the East, and added 2 expansion teams, you can balance out the conferences abit.
Western Conference
NorthWest Division
Seattle
Vancouver (expansion)
Portland
Utah
California Division
Sacramento (expansion)
Golden State
LA Clippers
LA Lakers
SouthWest Division
San Antonio
Houston
Dallas
Phoenix
Needs a name
Denver
Oklahoma City
New Orleans
Memphis/Minnesota
Eastern Conference
Central Division
Chicago
Milwaukee
Minnesota/Memphis
Indiana
Needs a Name
Toronto
Detroit
Cleveland
Washington
North East Division
New York
Brooklyn
Philadelphia
Boston
South East Division
Atlanta
Charlotte
Orlando
Miami
VS Division: 4 games x 3 teams = 12 games
VS rest of Conference: 3 games x 12 teams = 36 games (alternate every year who gets 1 home, 2 road game)
VS other Conference: 2 games x 16 teams = 32 games
Total of 80 games per season
Division winners are guaranteed a playoff spot, but not top 4.
fart wrote:I agree. get over it people. MJ is ridicoulsly overrated that people have developed this perception that no one can challenge him for GOAT.
DusterBuster wrote:Frank Mulely wrote:expansion is just creating more helpless teams with no chance of competing..
Exactly. Expansion of the league is a bad bad BAD idea. The talent in this league is stretched too thin as it is. The NBA needs contraction, not expansion.
WhamBamSlamm wrote:Seattle has not bought the team, Burkle/Mastrov will buy the team.
Too bad Seattle
No Offense wrote:WhamBamSlamm wrote:Seattle has not bought the team, Burkle/Mastrov will buy the team.
Too bad Seattle
Are you ever planning on adding anything of value or insightful to this topic or do you plan on repeatedly beating the same drum without having any proof that it's true?
I hate to say it, but the only thing that this "Here We Stay" movement and KJ are doing is delaying the inevitable and it will make it hurt more once it actually happens.
I feel bad for the vast majority of Kings fans but you're making it hard to feel any sympathy for you.
No Offense wrote:WhamBamSlamm wrote:Seattle has not bought the team, Burkle/Mastrov will buy the team.
Too bad Seattle
Are you ever planning on adding anything of value or insightful to this topic or do you plan on repeatedly beating the same drum without having any proof that it's true?
I hate to say it, but the only thing that this "Here We Stay" movement and KJ are doing is delaying the inevitable and it will make it hurt more once it actually happens.
I feel bad for the vast majority of Kings fans but you're making it hard to feel any sympathy for you.
deNIEd wrote:I'm sure KJ/Sacramento will present studies showing the actual differences in market sizes for sports between Seattle and Sacramento.
Why Seattle is larger (Sacramento is 20th I believe), the actual difference should be a lot smaller (if any) simply as Seattle has the MLB and NFL to compete with, as well as a premiere collegiate athletic program. Sacramento has absolutely nothing in terms of competition. It's the NBA and that's about it...no other major professional sports and local collegiate sports are not at an elite level by any means.
WhamBamSlamm wrote:20th and 21st investors on board.
Burkle and Mastrov to follow.
Good game Seattle...But you about to lose