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SAS kicking LAC's ass -- IN LOS ANGELES! Man, this SAS team is scary. Props to Pops.
8th seed, HOU or LAL
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The trade deadline passed and there is no trade associated with Lakers and for Rockets there is only a little change.
The most feasible plan for Lakers to make playoff is to beat Rockets and the next 10 games for each are essential.
For Rockets: the next 10 consists of 4 homes and 6 aways. The danger is on the away game against Nets and away game against Warriors. Other games are against Suns, Mavericks, Timberwolves, Wizards and Magic, which are relatively easy as those teams are falling this season. Personal predict: 7W3L or 5W5L.
For Lakers: the next 10 are tough. The toughest are away game against Thunders and Nuggets. Then for the home games against Hawks and Bulls and away game against Mavericks are also not 100% sure to win. Best prediction will be 8W2L or 5W5L.
If both teams get 5W5L, Lakers are still 1 behind Rockets. But after the 10 there are a bunch of home games for Rockets but a bunch of away game for Lakers. And the possible outcome is that Rockets win the most and Lakers win a few.
Or, HOU loses some games that are supposed to win, like the game against Magic and Wizards while LAL wins some of the games supposed to be lose, like the game against OKC.
So, based on the average performance of Lakers, Rockets and other Western teams, I dont think Lakers are able to make playoff.
The most feasible plan for Lakers to make playoff is to beat Rockets and the next 10 games for each are essential.
For Rockets: the next 10 consists of 4 homes and 6 aways. The danger is on the away game against Nets and away game against Warriors. Other games are against Suns, Mavericks, Timberwolves, Wizards and Magic, which are relatively easy as those teams are falling this season. Personal predict: 7W3L or 5W5L.
For Lakers: the next 10 are tough. The toughest are away game against Thunders and Nuggets. Then for the home games against Hawks and Bulls and away game against Mavericks are also not 100% sure to win. Best prediction will be 8W2L or 5W5L.
If both teams get 5W5L, Lakers are still 1 behind Rockets. But after the 10 there are a bunch of home games for Rockets but a bunch of away game for Lakers. And the possible outcome is that Rockets win the most and Lakers win a few.
Or, HOU loses some games that are supposed to win, like the game against Magic and Wizards while LAL wins some of the games supposed to be lose, like the game against OKC.
So, based on the average performance of Lakers, Rockets and other Western teams, I dont think Lakers are able to make playoff.
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The next 4 games will be vs.Portland, @Dallas, @Denver and vs.T'wolves. We don't have a choice but to go 3-1 or 4-0.
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Just saw Houston's schedule. It's VERY easy. If we wanna go to the playoffs, we need to win tough tough games.
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That game in Denver will be rough. but 3-1 is doable and necessary.
Houston still has to play a lot of games against the top of the west towards the end of the season which they haven't played real well against and they just changed their PF rotation, which may jack up that spacing they had. Harden and Lin have to play near perfect for them to win, I think they will struggle.
Utah is playing well and is deeper, their schedule is mixed, I don't know what to think of them right now. I was hoping they'd trade Millsap or Al Jeff and screw up their momentum but it didn't happen. I think we can catch them though
Golden State though is going to be in this fight too. 23 losses right now and they have a brutal stretch coming right now. They could easily loose 4 of the next 5.
If there are 3-4 teams all within like 2 games down the last 10 game stretch or so I'm confident that we will be able to pull it out.
Houston still has to play a lot of games against the top of the west towards the end of the season which they haven't played real well against and they just changed their PF rotation, which may jack up that spacing they had. Harden and Lin have to play near perfect for them to win, I think they will struggle.
Utah is playing well and is deeper, their schedule is mixed, I don't know what to think of them right now. I was hoping they'd trade Millsap or Al Jeff and screw up their momentum but it didn't happen. I think we can catch them though
Golden State though is going to be in this fight too. 23 losses right now and they have a brutal stretch coming right now. They could easily loose 4 of the next 5.
If there are 3-4 teams all within like 2 games down the last 10 game stretch or so I'm confident that we will be able to pull it out.
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Kobe and Co. needs to see how URGENT this is....
27 games left for lakers Utah and Houston
Currently utah and Houston winning at a .55-.6 clip.
Which means mathematically they will lose 11 out of 27 approx.
Now, we are 3 games back of Houston; 5 games back of Utah.
We need to lose 3 or 5 less than their 11 projected losses.
Which means we need to NOT lose more than SIX GAMES going rest of the way.
Mathematically this is a tough out.
We have a tough schedule (I don't care what others say). We are going to face
Portland
Denver on road
Dallas on road
Atlanta
Okc on road
Chicago
Atlanta on road
Indiana on road
Memphis
Clippers on road
Portland on road
San Antonio
Houston
These are all tough games.
Not even mentioning the fact that all the other teams we have to play like golden state and sacremento and new Orleans et al can be a loss if we don't come out right.
CAN WE DO THIS????
I hope Kobe and or any lakers read this and see the urgency.
27 games left for lakers Utah and Houston
Currently utah and Houston winning at a .55-.6 clip.
Which means mathematically they will lose 11 out of 27 approx.
Now, we are 3 games back of Houston; 5 games back of Utah.
We need to lose 3 or 5 less than their 11 projected losses.
Which means we need to NOT lose more than SIX GAMES going rest of the way.
Mathematically this is a tough out.
We have a tough schedule (I don't care what others say). We are going to face
Portland
Denver on road
Dallas on road
Atlanta
Okc on road
Chicago
Atlanta on road
Indiana on road
Memphis
Clippers on road
Portland on road
San Antonio
Houston
These are all tough games.
Not even mentioning the fact that all the other teams we have to play like golden state and sacremento and new Orleans et al can be a loss if we don't come out right.
CAN WE DO THIS????
I hope Kobe and or any lakers read this and see the urgency.
Kobe Bryant forever
GO LAKERS
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briansaddleback wrote:Kobe and Co. needs to see how URGENT this is....
27 games left for lakers Utah and Houston
Currently utah and Houston winning at a .55-.6 clip.
Which means mathematically they will lose 11 out of 27 approx.
Now, we are 3 games back of Houston; 5 games back of Utah.
We need to lose 3 or 5 less than their 11 projected losses.
Which means we need to NOT lose more than SIX GAMES going rest of the way.
Mathematically this is a tough out.
We have a tough schedule (I don't care what others say). We are going to face
Portland
Denver on road
Dallas on road
Atlanta
Okc on road
Chicago
Atlanta on road
Indiana on road
Memphis
Clippers on road
Portland on road
San Antonio
Houston
These are all tough games.
Not even mentioning the fact that all the other teams we have to play like golden state and sacremento and new Orleans et al can be a loss if we don't come out right.
CAN WE DO THIS????
I hope Kobe and or any lakers read this and see the urgency.
#COUNTONKOBE
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briansaddleback wrote:Kobe and Co. needs to see how URGENT this is....
27 games left for lakers Utah and Houston
Currently utah and Houston winning at a .55-.6 clip.
Which means mathematically they will lose 11 out of 27 approx.
Now, we are 3 games back of Houston; 5 games back of Utah.
We need to lose 3 or 5 less than their 11 projected losses.
Which means we need to NOT lose more than SIX GAMES going rest of the way.
Mathematically this is a tough out.
We have a tough schedule (I don't care what others say). We are going to face
Portland
Denver on road
Dallas on road
Atlanta
Okc on road
Chicago
Atlanta on road
Indiana on road
Memphis
Clippers on road
Portland on road
San Antonio
Houston
These are all tough games.
Not even mentioning the fact that all the other teams we have to play like golden state and sacremento and new Orleans et al can be a loss if we don't come out right.
CAN WE DO THIS????
I hope Kobe and or any lakers read this and see the urgency.
It's good to see somebody's being realistic. We have 13 tough games left and can only afford to lose half of those max and that's assuming we don't lose any of our "easier" remaining games. It's definitely not going to be easy.
My guess is we'll lose 8 or 9 of out remaining games so hopefully we get a little help in the form of Houston or GS fail down the stretch.
Sometimes being wrong is awesome!!!
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February
22nd vs. Portland
-3 days of rest after a lost to the Suns
24th @ Dallas
-1 days of rest after playing the Hornets on the road
25th @ Denver
-1 day of rest coming off a b2b against the Wizards and Bobcats
28th vs. Minnesota
-1 day of rest after playing the Suns on the road
March
3rd vs. Atlanta
-1 day of rest after playing the Suns, also it will be their 5th game of the trip( Bucks, Pistons, Jazz, Suns and then us followed up by the Nuggets)
5th @ Oklahoma City
- 1 day of rest, they play the Nuggets and Clippers on the road be for this game
6th @ New Orleans
-1 day of rest, they take on the Pistons and Magic at home
8th vs. Toronto
-1 day of rest, they play a b2b Pacers and @Bucks, 1 day of rest then @Golden State, 1 day of rest then @Suns (we're the last of their road trip)
10th vs. Chicago
-1 days of rest, Bulls take on the Nets(H) and Pacers(A) in a b2b, then the Spurs(A) with one day of rest before the Jazz(H)
12th @ Orlando
- 1 day of rest, they play the Heatles(A), Pacers(H) and Sixers(H) with 1 day of rest between these games
13th @ Atlanta
-second nite of a b2b after facing the Heatles on the road( I like that name somewhat) They also play Boston(road) and Brooklyn
15th @ Indiana
-1 day of rest before a b2b, they play the Timberwolves(H)
17th vs. Sacramento
-3 days of rest after play the Bulls(H)
18th @ Phoenix
-b2b for us, could be a trap game for us
-1 day of rest, after playing the Rockets, Hawks and Wizards all on the road( Rockets and Hawks are b2b games)
22nd vs. Washington
-1 day of rest, they play the Bobcats and Suns on the road, we are also the first on a b2b for them, they play the Warrors(A)
25th @ Golden State
-1 day of rest, they play the Wizards(H)
27th @ Minnesota
-second nite of a b2b, they also play the Pistons on th road
28th @ Milwaukee
-second nite of a b2b for us
-second nite of a b2b for the Bucks, they play the Sixer(A)
30th @ Sacramento
-1 day of rest after a b2b with the Warriors and Suns( both road games)
April
2nd vs. Dallas
-2 days of rest after playing the Bulls
5th vs. Memphis
-1 day of rest, second game of a 3 game road, the play the Trail Blazers before us
7th @ LA Clippers
-3 days of rest after they play the Suns(H)
9th vs. New Orleans
-1 day of rest, they play the Wrriors, Jazz and Suns all on the road
10th @ Portland
- 3 days of rest after playing the Mavs @home
12th vs. Golden State
-second nite of a b2b, they play the Thunder(H)
14th vs. San Antonio
-first of a b2b, after 1 day of rest after playing the Kings(H)
17th vs. Houston
-1 day of rest, also this could be our most important game of the year, they play the Suns(A) before facing us
this wont be easy but with a little luck, because we haven't had any all year long we can do this
22nd vs. Portland
-3 days of rest after a lost to the Suns
24th @ Dallas
-1 days of rest after playing the Hornets on the road
25th @ Denver
-1 day of rest coming off a b2b against the Wizards and Bobcats
28th vs. Minnesota
-1 day of rest after playing the Suns on the road
March
3rd vs. Atlanta
-1 day of rest after playing the Suns, also it will be their 5th game of the trip( Bucks, Pistons, Jazz, Suns and then us followed up by the Nuggets)
5th @ Oklahoma City
- 1 day of rest, they play the Nuggets and Clippers on the road be for this game
6th @ New Orleans
-1 day of rest, they take on the Pistons and Magic at home
8th vs. Toronto
-1 day of rest, they play a b2b Pacers and @Bucks, 1 day of rest then @Golden State, 1 day of rest then @Suns (we're the last of their road trip)
10th vs. Chicago
-1 days of rest, Bulls take on the Nets(H) and Pacers(A) in a b2b, then the Spurs(A) with one day of rest before the Jazz(H)
12th @ Orlando
- 1 day of rest, they play the Heatles(A), Pacers(H) and Sixers(H) with 1 day of rest between these games
13th @ Atlanta
-second nite of a b2b after facing the Heatles on the road( I like that name somewhat) They also play Boston(road) and Brooklyn
15th @ Indiana
-1 day of rest before a b2b, they play the Timberwolves(H)
17th vs. Sacramento
-3 days of rest after play the Bulls(H)
18th @ Phoenix
-b2b for us, could be a trap game for us
-1 day of rest, after playing the Rockets, Hawks and Wizards all on the road( Rockets and Hawks are b2b games)
22nd vs. Washington
-1 day of rest, they play the Bobcats and Suns on the road, we are also the first on a b2b for them, they play the Warrors(A)
25th @ Golden State
-1 day of rest, they play the Wizards(H)
27th @ Minnesota
-second nite of a b2b, they also play the Pistons on th road
28th @ Milwaukee
-second nite of a b2b for us
-second nite of a b2b for the Bucks, they play the Sixer(A)
30th @ Sacramento
-1 day of rest after a b2b with the Warriors and Suns( both road games)
April
2nd vs. Dallas
-2 days of rest after playing the Bulls
5th vs. Memphis
-1 day of rest, second game of a 3 game road, the play the Trail Blazers before us
7th @ LA Clippers
-3 days of rest after they play the Suns(H)
9th vs. New Orleans
-1 day of rest, they play the Wrriors, Jazz and Suns all on the road
10th @ Portland
- 3 days of rest after playing the Mavs @home
12th vs. Golden State
-second nite of a b2b, they play the Thunder(H)
14th vs. San Antonio
-first of a b2b, after 1 day of rest after playing the Kings(H)
17th vs. Houston
-1 day of rest, also this could be our most important game of the year, they play the Suns(A) before facing us
this wont be easy but with a little luck, because we haven't had any all year long we can do this
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Just need that 8th spot at least. It's a new season when we get there obviously. I don't fear anyone when we get to the playoffs. First thing first is getting there. Kobe and co. need to do this for Dr Buss.
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The schedule is pretty good. Not "easy" because it isn't easy in the NBA but its workable. I like it because March is the month the Lakers have to make their move and its almost all easier games other than OKC on the road. So we should know by late March where the Lakers stand. Also, if its close going into April the Lakers do have important "control your destiny" kind of games against Houston and the Warriors the last 3 games of the season.
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Deron Williams is going to miss tonight's game against Houston........ Oh well, the Nets ain't all that at all
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briansaddleback wrote:Kobe and Co. needs to see how URGENT this is....
27 games left for lakers Utah and Houston
Currently utah and Houston winning at a .55-.6 clip.
Which means mathematically they will lose 11 out of 27 approx.
Now, we are 3 games back of Houston; 5 games back of Utah.
We need to lose 3 or 5 less than their 11 projected losses.
Which means we need to NOT lose more than SIX GAMES going rest of the way.
Mathematically this is a tough out.
We have a tough schedule (I don't care what others say).
OK - let's see how it looks:
W- Portland
L - Denver on road
W - Dallas on road
W - Atlanta
L - Okc on road
W - Chicago
W - Atlanta on road
W - Indiana on road
W - Memphis
L - Clippers on road
W - Portland on road
L - San Antonio
W - Houston
That's four and let's assume we lose one we shouldn't, likely MEM or Indy. Makes five.
Doable, and if we can steal one of LAC or OK, even better
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I think we can take the 2nd to last game against San Antonio. Pop likes to rest his vets during the final stretch and we've matched up and played against them very well this whole year despite our problems.
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Yeah, I'm very optimistic but that's why I'm not too confident about our chances. The last game of the season is going to be a MUST win because I think it may come down to a tiebreaker. =/
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We can do this, I still believe. I get heated at times but I still believe.
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7.5 weeks left. Pick up 1 game in loss column every 10 days on Houston, Utah and GS. Simple. Finish 6th.
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That's not as easy as it sounds. Every 10 days is about 4 games. That means we have to go perfect or 3/4 and expect them to go 3/4 or 2/4. Then on subsequent weeks, we have to have a better record than them still to maintain the standing.
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I just don't see how we get in... they have dropped so many winnable games that they really put themselves in a terrible position.
Even by playing average they should be no worse than .500 at this point but they are still 3 games under because they are simply not a good team. I don't see the teams ahead of the Lakers dropping enough games. Our schedule is pretty tough too.
What makes you guys think that we won't continue losing to bad teams here on out? They have been doing it all year.
Nash is still old, Kobe is slumping with his shot, and Dwight is still questionable health-wise. No big man depth at all. Howard sees any foul trouble and those games are sure losses.
I'm sorry I can't share your optimism. This team has given me enough reasons along the way to have major doubt in their ability to go on a run. (It will take a hell of a run to get in, like 8-9 game W streak or 10-1)
Even by playing average they should be no worse than .500 at this point but they are still 3 games under because they are simply not a good team. I don't see the teams ahead of the Lakers dropping enough games. Our schedule is pretty tough too.
What makes you guys think that we won't continue losing to bad teams here on out? They have been doing it all year.
Nash is still old, Kobe is slumping with his shot, and Dwight is still questionable health-wise. No big man depth at all. Howard sees any foul trouble and those games are sure losses.
I'm sorry I can't share your optimism. This team has given me enough reasons along the way to have major doubt in their ability to go on a run. (It will take a hell of a run to get in, like 8-9 game W streak or 10-1)