Official Speculation Thread I

fendilim · Post #1 » by **fendilim** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:50 pm

The new beginning. ORLANDIPO era

fendilim · Post #2 » by **fendilim** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:51 pm

Just to start it off in a funny note. You guys ought to read this thread in the Suns forum

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Noonskadoodle · Post #3 » by **Noonskadoodle** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:54 pm

RYgoBOOM · Post #4 » by **RYgoBOOM** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:04 pm

lmao at some of those guys responses. Guess they really didn't want len? lolol :lol:

OrlChamps2030 · Post #5 » by **OrlChamps2030** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:14 pm

I wasn't sky-high on Oladipo but the more I think about it the more I like it. Great work ethic and motor. You know he is going to be a locker room leader and will never give up on the defensive end. Will probably consistently improve every year and won't get into trouble off the court. What I'm wondering is what does Rob expect out of him on the offensive end? Is this just a weak draft class so we went with the sure-thing Tony Allen esque guy at #2? Or does Rob think he is more Iguodala than Allen on the offensive end??

fendilim · Post #6 » by **fendilim** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:16 pm

I'm hoping they think Victor can play the point.

Reverse_Angle · Post #7 » by **Reverse_Angle** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:21 pm

What makes a speculation thread official? What is stopping other posters to start theirs?

I thought it was the format and math.

Post #8 » by **Bensational** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:23 pm

Zmill wrote:I wasn't sky-high on Oladipo but the more I think about it the more I like it. Great work ethic and motor. You know he is going to be a locker room leader and will never give up on the defensive end. Will probably consistently improve every year and won't get into trouble off the court. What I'm wondering is what does Rob expect out of him on the offensive end? Is this just a weak draft class so we went with the sure-thing Tony Allen esque guy at #2? Or does Rob think he is more Iguodala than Allen on the offensive end??

Yep, I've come around to it too.

I think Hennigan is building a team of guys who will all be capable of executing plays, like the Spurs. They have moments where Parker runs the plays (predominantly), but they also have Manu, Duncan, Kawhi, Green and Neal all initiating offense at points too.

I can envision Harris running a lot of ISOs and p&r's with Vuc, Dipo running some p&r's, and otherwise, Dipo and Harkless running non stop off screens to get open. Will be very tiring for opponents to defend.

Reverse_Angle · Post #9 » by **Reverse_Angle** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:23 pm

Bbd has a better chance of doing that.

Post #10 » by **Bensational** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:24 pm

Reverse_Angle wrote:What makes a speculation thread official? What is stopping other posters to start theirs?

I thought it was the format and math.

Yeah, Fendi, you may wanna copy and paste the first post from the last spec thread and update it to LVIII, and give it a title "Orlandipo thread" or whatever.

Post #11 » by **Def Swami** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:24 pm

OP: I'd update the title to include the volume in the series of threads, just to keep count. Thanks for creating it.

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The Orlando Magic will bring in Matthew Dellevadova and Rodney McGruder for Summer League, per @GoodmanESPN. Joining Clanton & Slaughter.

McGruder destroyed my Gators last season.

Post #12 » by **Bensational** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:25 pm

Reverse_Angle wrote:Bbd has a better chance of doing that.

Running plays? BBD would be fine if he didn't have such a tendency of becoming a black hole.

magicsanta · Post #13 » by **magicsanta** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:28 pm

I like what the Nets did, I'd like to be in the nets' fan's kind of situation. Many are obsessed with the financial aspect of it under the new CBA, and the picks they traded.

Regarding the picks they now have a Mark Cuban type of ownership, maybe even more agressive, what will those picks be worth anyway?

Regarding the financial aspect; that billionaire either knows finances pretty well and/or is well advised, he's in a big market too, so the budget and financial considerations are special (maybe he's laundering money which would be awful but he;s innocent until proven otherwise).

So 2-3 years from now when Garnett and Pierce are gone, guess what? he may have another Reggie Evans + Gerald Wallace to turn into one or two all stars to replace them.

Noonskadoodle · Post #14 » by **Noonskadoodle** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:30 pm

McGruder & Dellevadova are 2 really solid guys to bring in.

Nyce_1 · Post #15 » by **Nyce_1** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:30 pm

Def Swami wrote:OP: I'd update the title to include the volume in the series of threads, just to keep count. Thanks for creating it.

mBo ‏@MagicBasketball 44m
The Orlando Magic will bring in Matthew Dellevadova and Rodney McGruder for Summer League, per @GoodmanESPN. Joining Clanton & Slaughter.

McGruder destroyed my Gators last season.

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6'4, good shooter, nyce PnR game

Reverse_Angle · Post #16 » by **Reverse_Angle** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:33 pm

Bensational wrote:
Reverse_Angle wrote:Bbd has a better chance of doing that.

Running plays? BBD would be fine if he didn't have such a tendency of becoming a black hole.

Should have completed the sentence.

Bbd has a better chance of playing the point than dipo does. White chocolate would come to the arena with kids and jump out of the stands to play the point in street clothes and flip-flops before dipo would. That is how unlikely I think dipo becoming 1-guard.

OrlChamps2030 · Post #17 » by **OrlChamps2030** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:33 pm

Bensational wrote:
Zmill wrote:I wasn't sky-high on Oladipo but the more I think about it the more I like it. Great work ethic and motor. You know he is going to be a locker room leader and will never give up on the defensive end. Will probably consistently improve every year and won't get into trouble off the court. What I'm wondering is what does Rob expect out of him on the offensive end? Is this just a weak draft class so we went with the sure-thing Tony Allen esque guy at #2? Or does Rob think he is more Iguodala than Allen on the offensive end??

Yep, I've come around to it too.

I think Hennigan is building a team of guys who will all be capable of executing plays, like the Spurs. They have moments where Parker runs the plays (predominantly), but they also have Manu, Duncan, Kawhi, Green and Neal all initiating offense at points too.

I can envision Harris running a lot of ISOs and p&r's with Vuc, Dipo running some p&r's, and otherwise, Dipo and Harkless running non stop off screens to get open. Will be very tiring for opponents to defend.

I was actually typing up a response to your post in the last spec thread when you made this post.. but I agree. I am thinking (and hoping) that Rob sees Oladipo becoming a Iguodala/Gerald Wallace type of slasher with some playmaking capabilities and the ability to initiate the offense (eventually). He definitely won't ever become a gunner but if his jumpshot can continue to develop then he should be able to shoot within the offense, which is what we need.

Post #18 » by **Bensational** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:40 pm

I still hold a lot of hope that Dipo is gonna attack the rim like a beast, and start getting to the line. Once he gets a taste for that, and the refs give him calls, it will change his game dramatically.

rcklsscognition · Post #19 » by **rcklsscognition** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:40 pm

Let me guess, we're bringing in high character guys to our summer league team.

Post #20 » by **Bensational** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:41 pm

Reverse_Angle wrote:
Bensational wrote:
Reverse_Angle wrote:Bbd has a better chance of doing that.

Running plays? BBD would be fine if he didn't have such a tendency of becoming a black hole.

Should have completed the sentence.

Bbd has a better chance of playing the point than dipo does. White chocolate would come to the arena with kids and jump out of the stands to play the point in street clothes and flip-flops before dipo would. That is how unlikely I think dipo becoming 1-guard.

I don't see Dipo as a PG, but potentially filling an Iggy-style role as a playmaker/facilitator.