Giannis Thread - 13th Season with the Bucks

[LUKE23]

The Knicks do not have a package that would make it worth it to trade GA. It's that simple.

[emunney]

The Knicks do not have a package that would make it worth it to trade GA. It's that simple.

They have more value on their roster than most teams though. If they were motivated they could probably get close enough to the best offer that we'd take it. Ultimately, since we don't have our own picks, the idea that most of us would prefer to execute some super complicated trade giving us a big warchest of so-so prospects and valuable picks is probably not something we'd seriously pursue.

[jakecronus8]

Bingo.

And I think once you’ve threatened your spouse with divorce it is hard to put that toothpaste back in the tube.

And for those of you who say “this is no different than other years” oh yes it is. We’ve lost Dame and all those draft picks we gave up to get him. And Giannis has had people in his ear the past six months telling him the Bucks have no assets to get better.

Explain to me how anything he's said or done indicates that his priority isn't competing for titles. Whether here or elsewhere.

The rumors about Giannis and New York have been around a long time.

What's different now is that Horst and the Knicks had a discussion and apparently that is the only team they did that with.

Assuming the above is true, the only reason would be that Giannis expressed interest in the Knicks (likely thru his agent).

If all Giannis was interested in was a championship, he wouldn't limit himself to the Knicks.

Yep. Knicks are not a good trade partner for Milwaukee if Giannis wants to win titles. They'd be gutted. San Antonio still remains the team that makes the most sense if he wants out and wants to be playing for titles.

For the Bucks, if NY is the only place Giannis wants to be then the Nets make more sense as a trade partner as they have literally 30 tradable picks at the moment.

The more I hear and put pieces together the more I believe:

1. Giannis does indeed want out.

2. Giannis doesn't want to be held accountable or blamed for asking out.

3. Something changed in the relationship between Giannis and the org and perhaps his family dynamic as well.

Less than ideal way to start the season. I feel bad for Turner/Bobby etc. They signed for under market value, assumingly because of Giannis' presence.

[MickeyDavis]

The Knicks are NOT good trading partners for Giannis. At all. There would have to be another team(s) involved. Any trade of Giannis that doesn't include some good young talent and potentially good picks is a non starter. The Knicks have neither. We don't need guys like KAT (only one year younger than Giannis). I don't give a **** where Giannis wants to go.

[LUKE23]

They have more value on their roster than most teams though. If they were motivated they could probably get close enough to the best offer that we'd take it. Ultimately, since we don't have our own picks, the idea that most of us would prefer to execute some super complicated trade giving us a big warchest of so-so prospects and valuable picks is probably not something we'd seriously pursue.

The biggest issue I see is that if we move on from a 30/31 year old GA, are we really going to target a collection of worse players in the same age range, which is essentially the Knicks entire core? I don't see it. I do think, and hope, that if we moved on from GA, we would look at it through a long-term lens.

Bottom line, if GA does ask out, I'm sorry, I'm not sending him where he wants to go. I'm telling him he needs to get a list of 5 or so teams as acceptable destinations, and then those 5 can start a bidding war.

[jakecronus8]

The Knicks are NOT good trading partners for Giannis. At all. There would have to be another team(s) involved. Any trade of Giannis that doesn't include some good young talent and potentially good picks is a non starter. The Knicks have neither. We don't need guys like KAT (only one year younger than Giannis). I don't give a **** where Giannis wants to go.

Any Giannis trade for me either needs a young superstar talent in it, or upside picks with multiple shots at a superstar. Starts and stops there. Otherwise there's more value to the franchise to just have Giannis play out the next year and a half before you move him.

[emunney]

They have more value on their roster than most teams though. If they were motivated they could probably get close enough to the best offer that we'd take it. Ultimately, since we don't have our own picks, the idea that most of us would prefer to execute some super complicated trade giving us a big warchest of so-so prospects and valuable picks is probably not something we'd seriously pursue.

The biggest issue I see is that if we move on from a 30/31 year old GA, are we really going to target a collection of worse players in the same age range, which is essentially the Knicks entire core? I don't see it. I do think, and hope, that if we moved on from GA, we would look at it through a long-term lens.

Bottom line, if GA does ask out, I'm sorry, I'm not sending him where he wants to go. I'm telling him he needs to get a list of 5 or so teams as acceptable destinations, and then those 5 can start a bidding war.

Yes, I think we're likely to end up with a collection of worse players in the same age range, if a trade happens with our own FRPs still well over the time horizon.

The obvious thing for the Knicks or any other team to do would be to get us our picks back. But I'm not sure that's really desirable to our money men.

[Ron Swanson]

If it comes to that, he doesn't have a no-trade clause so IDGAF where he wants to go. He'll get over it when he'll be competing for titles over in San Antonio while we can build around Harper, Castle, and all their future firsts/swaps. If this organization is seriously **** dumb enough to accept whatever mediocre package of win-now players that the Knicks can send just to "honor his wishes", then basketball in Milwaukee is dead. Just fold up the franchise.

[PG Graveyard]

I think Edens pissed Giannis off putting him on the spot at media day and he acted out leaking the Knicks stuff to Shams.

Reasonable likelihood he regrets it now seeing the repercussions, probably with a dose of Leon Rose adding fuel to the fire.

If this were LeBron and Rich Paul they may be thinking far enough ahead to get Bridges locked up long term to center him in a package instead of Brunson (to the Bucks or in a multi-team deal) when he's trade eligible before the deadline.

That doesn't seem like Giannis' style though. And like Sam Amick wrote:

For Antetokounmpo’s part, it was quite impressive to see him walk the line between admitted angst and appeasement during his session with the media. He didn’t run from the reports about his concerns, saying (accurately) that it’s only human for someone to want what’s best for themselves and their family. But in stark contrast to so many star player sagas that have come before, from Dwight Howard to Jimmy Butler, James Harden and the like, he made it abundantly clear that his professionalism would not wane.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6705000/2025/10/10/knicks-giannis-antetokounmpo-trade-news-latest/

These morons don’t understand Giannis at all. The idea that he is going to go full Jimmy Butler has never even crossed my mind.

Hes under control by the Bucks for two more years whether he likes it or not.

[Ron Swanson]

Dylan Harper
Stephon Castle
Keldon Johnson
Harrison Barnes
2027 ATL unprotected 1st
2029 SAS unprotected 1st
2028 Swap rights between SAS/BOS
2031 Swap rights between SAS/SAC

That's at the very least gonna be what it takes. San Antonio can take it or leave it.

[paulpressey25]

I wouldn’t discount the Knicks entirely as we will want win now guys unless we get overwhelmed with picks. I can’t see Edens or Haslam wanting to deal with a full rebuild if we don’t control all our picks.

Can you route either Bridges or OG to Portland to get our pick and both swaps back? It’s a thought.

[Daver]

The Knicks do not have a package that would make it worth it to trade GA. It's that simple.

You dont think a KAT OG and ? is worth it

[Daver]

Explain to me how anything he's said or done indicates that his priority isn't competing for titles. Whether here or elsewhere.

The rumors about Giannis and New York have been around a long time.

What's different now is that Horst and the Knicks had a discussion and apparently that is the only team they did that with.

Assuming the above is true, the only reason would be that Giannis expressed interest in the Knicks (likely thru his agent).

If all Giannis was interested in was a championship, he wouldn't limit himself to the Knicks.

Yep. Knicks are not a good trade partner for Milwaukee if Giannis wants to win titles. They'd be gutted. San Antonio still remains the team that makes the most sense if he wants out and wants to be playing for titles.

For the Bucks, if NY is the only place Giannis wants to be then the Nets make more sense as a trade partner as they have literally 30 tradable picks at the moment.

The more I hear and put pieces together the more I believe:

1. Giannis does indeed want out.

2. Giannis doesn't want to be held accountable or blamed for asking out.

3. Something changed in the relationship between Giannis and the org and perhaps his family dynamic as well.

Less than ideal way to start the season. I feel bad for Turner/Bobby etc. They signed for under market value, assumingly because of Giannis' presence.

ImO screw the picks the draft is a very iffy thing.I want 3 starters just to start the conversation n SA doesnt have anything close to that.NY does KAT OG and hart or bridges.
Wheres this so called piece you found which tells you giannis wants out n thst he had some sort of falling out with the bucks brass.]

[DingleJerry]

Dylan Harper
Stephon Castle
Keldon Johnson
Harrison Barnes
2027 ATL unprotected 1st
2029 SAS unprotected 1st
2028 Swap rights between SAS/BOS
2031 Swap rights between SAS/SAC

That's at the very least gonna be what it takes. San Antonio can take it or leave it.

If that's on the table right now would you do it? I kind of think the writing is on the wall that MKE can't do better than a 4ish type seed the next few years of the end of Giannis' prime, and they're effed after. Add in good chance he asks out in the next year or two, plus he could get hurt. If a package that good is on the table its definitely the right move from a team building strategy type thing.

From a PR, personal, doing the write thing its a different discussion though.

[soxperry]

The Knicks do not have a package that would make it worth it to trade GA. It's that simple.

You dont think a KAT OG and ? is worth it

No.

[Daver]

Dylan Harper
Stephon Castle
Keldon Johnson
Harrison Barnes
2027 ATL unprotected 1st
2029 SAS unprotected 1st
2028 Swap rights between SAS/BOS
2031 Swap rights between SAS/SAC

That's at the very least gonna be what it takes. San Antonio can take it or leave it.

How many of those players are starters

[Daver]

I wouldn’t discount the Knicks entirely as we will want win now guys unless we get overwhelmed with picks. I can’t see Edens or Haslam wanting to deal with a full rebuild if we don’t control all our picks.

Can you route either Bridges or OG to Portland to get our pick and both swaps back? It’s a thought.

Not a chance in hell haslsm/ edens go full rebuold n trade giannis for **** DPs n non starting talent.Im sure if haslem had his say he would just want playersback who are already quality players or DPs

[Sigra]

KAT is actually good fit to play with Giannis.

Brunson isnt. It would be better for both teams if Brunson is in package insteed of KAT. Just saying

[humanrefutation]

If it comes to that, he doesn't have a no-trade clause so IDGAF where he wants to go. He'll get over it when he'll be competing for titles over in San Antonio while we can build around Harper, Castle, and all their future firsts/swaps. If this organization is seriously **** dumb enough to accept whatever mediocre package of win-now players that the Knicks can send just to "honor his wishes", then basketball in Milwaukee is dead. Just fold up the franchise.

The issue, of course, is that no one is going to offer the kind of godfather offer for Giannis that we'd want if he won't commit to an extension there. That's why it does matter where he wants to play.

But I think there's a middle ground that I described before - give Giannis a list of teams with offers we'd accept, and let him choose.

[humanrefutation]

Bingo.

And I think once you’ve threatened your spouse with divorce it is hard to put that toothpaste back in the tube.

And for those of you who say “this is no different than other years” oh yes it is. We’ve lost Dame and all those draft picks we gave up to get him. And Giannis has had people in his ear the past six months telling him the Bucks have no assets to get better.

Explain to me how anything he's said or done indicates that his priority isn't competing for titles. Whether here or elsewhere.

The rumors about Giannis and New York have been around a long time.

What's different now is that Horst and the Knicks had a discussion and apparently that is the only team they did that with.

Assuming the above is true, the only reason would be that Giannis expressed interest in the Knicks (likely thru his agent).

If all Giannis was interested in was a championship, he wouldn't limit himself to the Knicks.

The Knicks have the best shot of coming out of the East with Giannis. I don't see the two as contradictory.

Of course, I'm not trading him simply where he wants to go. But the facts are that he has not demanded a trade and he has not said he won't extend here long term. He's said what he's always said - he's here as long as we're competing for titles. He's trying to make sure that Edens and Haslam and Horst don't rest on their laurels. He sees the end of his career in the distant horizon and he wants it to be chasing rings for as long as possible.