Giannis Thread - 13th Season with the Bucks

CharityStripe34 · Post #921 » by **CharityStripe34** » Thu Sep 25, 2025 7:35 pm

Giannis and Jokic are in their own tier. Right below them are Luka and SGA. Then it's everyone else. This isn't rocket science.

In the NBA Cup, which doesn't count yadda yadda, SGA was relatively contained and bothered by Ajax while Giannis looked like prime Wilt and made a great defensive team like OKC look like children. Literally. They tried the "CaRuShoW" trick and that didn't do anything either.

Ron Swanson · Post #922 » by **Ron Swanson** » Thu Sep 25, 2025 7:52 pm

This might even be worse than the summer after the championship where we had to listen to all the mouth-breathers try and make "Is KD the best player in the world?" a thing (it was never a thing).

Dick Tate · Post #923 » by **Dick Tate** » Thu Sep 25, 2025 7:57 pm

Fantasy rankings? bfd

Post #924 » by **humanrefutation** » Thu Sep 25, 2025 8:01 pm

emunney wrote:Do the thought experiment where you swap SGA and Giannis, anybody at The Ringer.

The Ringer? They're too busy putting together a top 100 list of the best farts in movie history.

Ron Swanson · Post #925 » by **Ron Swanson** » Thu Sep 25, 2025 8:23 pm

Jokic's status as the unimpeachable best player in the world no matter how much the Nuggets get clamped up by good defenses in the playoffs is also becoming an annoying trend. Giannis puts up a casual 30/20/13/2/2 on 61% TS with all-world defense in an elimination game and it's an afterthought. Jokic pulls a disappearing act (20/9/7 while only getting 9 shots up) in a blowout Game 7 loss while allowing OKC to put up a 127 OFF-RTG (gee, I wonder how they did that while only shooting 30% from 3PT...), and all you hear is "not his fault, his teammates suck" excuses. If Giannis got the Jokic-rules hipster NBA media treatment, he'd have had his 3rd MVP already.

CharityStripe34 · Post #926 » by **CharityStripe34** » Thu Sep 25, 2025 9:25 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Jokic's status as the unimpeachable best player in the world no matter how much the Nuggets get clamped up by good defenses in the playoffs is also becoming an annoying trend. Giannis puts up a casual 30/20/13/2/2 on 61% TS with all-world defense in an elimination game and it's an afterthought. Jokic pulls a disappearing act (20/9/7 while only getting 9 shots up) in a blowout Game 7 loss while allowing OKC to put up a 127 OFF-RTG (gee, I wonder how they did that while only shooting 30% from 3PT...), and all you hear is "not his fault, his teammates suck" excuses. If Giannis got the Jokic-rules hipster NBA media treatment, he'd have had his 3rd MVP already.

"But that was against the NBA champions, while Giannis did that against.....the other NBA Finalist." NBA nerd media.

blazza18 · Post #927 » by **blazza18** » Thu Sep 25, 2025 11:11 pm

I do not care about where Giannis ranks anymore. The franchise needs to be serious and get out of the first round then maybe I’ll change my mind.

HKPackFan · Post #928 » by **HKPackFan** » Fri Sep 26, 2025 12:38 am

RogerMurdock wrote:
Antetokounmpo has been putting up even better production over the past few years than the seasons when he won back-to-back MVP awards. He has averaged 30 points, 11 rebounds and 6 assists on 60% shooting in each of the past two seasons, the only player in NBA history to do so, with a combination of efficiency and dominance that rivals peak Shaquille O'Neal and Wilt Chamberlain. Antetokounmpo was healthy for the 2025 playoffs for the first time in three years, and his numbers got even better (33 PPG and 14 RPG on 64% shooting).

Wow! So he must be the best player in the league easily, right? Nope, fourth.

Peak Shaq and Wilt????

I can't imagine someone calling a player peak Shaq and wilt and doing something no player in history has ever done.... And saying they are 4th.

:lol:

Dick Tate · Post #929 » by **Dick Tate** » Fri Sep 26, 2025 1:49 am

I’m guessing you guys don’t do fantasy.

AussieBuck · Post #930 » by **AussieBuck** » Fri Sep 26, 2025 12:29 pm

There's been like one OKC Bucks game ever where you'd look at the two guys and consider SGA in Gianni's tier if you didn't have any other context.

Post #931 » by **ReasonablySober** » Fri Sep 26, 2025 1:25 pm

Dick Tate wrote:Fantasy rankings? bfd

Those aren't fantasy rankings. It's ESPN's NBA ranking of the best players.

Dick Tate · Post #932 » by **Dick Tate** » Fri Sep 26, 2025 10:34 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:
Dick Tate wrote:Fantasy rankings? bfd

Those aren't fantasy rankings. It's ESPN's NBA ranking of the best players.

Thanks for the source. The fantasy projection threw me off. :-?

Matches Malone · Post #933 » by **Matches Malone** » Sat Sep 27, 2025 12:03 am

Doc should bring him in for training camp like he did Rondo, to work with Giannis.

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Licensed to Il · Post #934 » by **Licensed to Il** » Sat Sep 27, 2025 12:22 am

Giannis with 45% of Melo’s pullup game is the greatest player of all time

AussieBuck · Post #935 » by **AussieBuck** » Sat Sep 27, 2025 2:11 am

Well there you go, the man can let go of grudges.

KidA24 · Post #936 » by **KidA24** » Sat Sep 27, 2025 3:46 am

Yes, what Giannis needs is to be more selfish and shoot more long twos.

Can't wait

engelmartin · Post #937 » by **engelmartin** » Sat Sep 27, 2025 3:52 am

KidA24 wrote:Yes, what Giannis needs is to be more selfish and shoot more long twos.

Can't wait

Melo was pretty good until he lost his athleticism and shot nothing but long twos.

AussieBuck · Post #938 » by **AussieBuck** » Sat Sep 27, 2025 4:07 am

KidA24 wrote:Yes, what Giannis needs is to be more selfish and shoot more long twos.

Can't wait

I think the selling point here is face up footwork, which Melo was great at. It's definitely something Giannis could use work on. Melo also had some nice post stuff too, his shot selection was his downfall.

KidA24 · Post #939 » by **KidA24** » Sat Sep 27, 2025 4:10 am

AussieBuck wrote:
KidA24 wrote:Yes, what Giannis needs is to be more selfish and shoot more long twos.

Can't wait

I think the selling point here is face up footwork, which Melo was great at. It's definitely something Giannis could use work on. Melo also had some nice post stuff too, his shot selection was his downfall.

Melo was a wildly gifted shooter, who had amazing touch from hundreds of release points and shot angles.

Giannis can't shoot standing still from 15 feet from the hoop.

Milbucks96 · Post #940 » by **Milbucks96** » Sat Sep 27, 2025 11:59 am

blazza18 wrote:I do not care about where Giannis ranks anymore. The franchise needs to be serious and get out of the first round then maybe I’ll change my mind.

Yea it’s not Giannis fault but it’s hard to put him with the 1 and 2 guys after only winning like 3 playoff games in 3 years. I do think him being under Luka is weird but whatever.