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Skin wrote:How are Andrew Bynum's ACL's coming along these days?
I think it's a completely different story when you're talking about 7 footers. The knees have to hold up so much more body frame.
Skin wrote:How are Andrew Bynum's ACL's coming along these days?
I think it's a completely different story when you're talking about 7 footers. The knees have to hold up so much more body frame.
InFlames wrote:Skin wrote:How are Andrew Bynum's ACL's coming along these days?
I think it's a completely different story when you're talking about 7 footers. The knees have to hold up so much more body frame.
Andrew Bynum and Noel's situations are completely different. Bynum has been plagued by different, chronic knee issues. None of which even have to do with the acl, so this doesn't even make sense.
Every single big man who had an acl tear that I listed in a post above all weigh more than Noel.
pogiro wrote:Skin wrote:I have a better question. Can anyone name a big who was uncoordinated and awkward with the ball offensively and then became coordinated and offensively reliable down the line?
Please don't say Dwight Howard. While a little improved, the guy's offensive coordination is still a joke today. Can't even dribble 3 times without getting the ball stolen.
With the likes of Tobias and Vucevic, we can afford Noel to come along slowly and even settle as a 4th or 5th option. But he'll be the cornerstone of our defense and makes up for what Vucevic lacks. If we have a supporting cast of Tobias, Harkless, Noel, and Vucevic, we'll lure a max FA easy.
Skin wrote:pogiro wrote:Skin wrote:I have a better question. Can anyone name a big who was uncoordinated and awkward with the ball offensively and then became coordinated and offensively reliable down the line?
Please don't say Dwight Howard. While a little improved, the guy's offensive coordination is still a joke today. Can't even dribble 3 times without getting the ball stolen.
With the likes of Tobias and Vucevic, we can afford Noel to come along slowly and even settle as a 4th or 5th option. But he'll be the cornerstone of our defense and makes up for what Vucevic lacks. If we have a supporting cast of Tobias, Harkless, Noel, and Vucevic, we'll lure a max FA easy.
I do like this take at it. Cause I'm 100% in for tanking in 2014.
Skin wrote:InFlames wrote:It's not only about weight. Having a more well built body matters. Noel has twig-like limbs. He doesn't have a strong frame. So he's prone to it happening again.
Plus, he already has had a knee injury that kept him out in High School. So he may not be that much different from Bynum. This isn't an isolated incident.
Bobby Ray wrote:Guess I just have to agree to disagree inflames, to me he does not separate himself from the next few guys down the line.
Did he have a better year than Mclemore? Nope
Did he have a better year than Porter? Nope
Did he have a better year than Bennett? Nope
Did he have a better year than Burke? Nope
Is Noel a better player right now than any of these guys I just mentioned? It may be arguable to some but not to me. He's not better than those guys right now, but can he be? Well yeah but that's my point. He's the bpa by default, NOT because he's the better player, He's just has the best potential.
Heard a saying that said potential just means you're not good enough yet, still feel he should of stayed another year in college. Could be wrong but that's just how I feel about Noel. I mean remind me how Bismack Biyombo it's looking these days? I remember him being hyped as the next great defensive Big. He was a potential only pick.
I sincerely hope Noel can be better than that but the track record isn't doing any favors
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RT @RCognition: So from who you've talked to, no team is worried about Noel's injury history? --> none and I have asked several.
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InFlames wrote:Steve Kyler @stevekylerNBA 7m
RT @RCognition: So from who you've talked to, no team is worried about Noel's injury history? --> none and I have asked several.
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He is the consensus #1 pick and teams don't are about his acl tear. I've been saying this for weeks now.
rcklsscognition wrote:InFlames wrote:Steve Kyler @stevekylerNBA 7m
RT @RCognition: So from who you've talked to, no team is worried about Noel's injury history? --> none and I have asked several.
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He is the consensus #1 pick and teams don't are about his acl tear. I've been saying this for weeks now.
lol, that's me, I asked him just so we'd have some rational thoughts on this topic.
Noonskadoodle wrote:General manager Rob Hennigan and assistant general managers Scott Perry and Matt Lloyd will conduct the Magic's player interviews, which were expected to begin Wednesday night and likely will include Noel, McLemore and Burke. Each team may interview a maximum of 18 players, and each session may last a maximum of 30 minutes.
Hennigan would not comment about his team's goals for the combine, but the interviews will play a critical role for the Magic, especially since many players won't participate in the on-court drills scheduled for Thursday and Friday at a Chicago gym.
The Magic won't know where, exactly, they'll pick in the first round until the NBA draft lottery takes place Tuesday in Manhattan.
It's unclear whether McLemore and Burke will participate in the combine's drills. Instead, they may elect to hold individual workouts in the weeks to come.
But all prospects' heights, weights, wingspans, standing reach and body fat will be measured.
And interviews also could be critical in the process.
As the team with the best chance to pick first, the Magic will want to sit down with Noel, McLemore and Burke, making the next few days critical for the players and the team.
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tiderulz wrote:fendilim wrote:So what are Noel's previous injuries? And how is it related to his Acl?
Also, getting pushed are basically the same knack on Drummond and concerns on anthony davis last year. But weightlifting proved them wrong, so i wouldnt rule out the possibility that Noel can improve his strength.
Also, Noel will be out for pretty much a year, so he'd have enough time to improve his strength and his knees.
Alothe idea of drafting Noel is to pair him up with Vucevic. Vuc would be the primary post defender and Noel would be the weak side defender.
I wouldnt say it was proven wrong on Davis, he moved to PF and cant play C for very long spurts because he is overpowered.
BadMofoPimp wrote:fendilim wrote:So what are Noel's previous injuries? And how is it related to his Acl?
Also, getting pushed are basically the same knack on Drummond and concerns on anthony davis last year. But weightlifting proved them wrong, so i wouldnt rule out the possibility that Noel can improve his strength.
Also, Noel will be out for pretty much a year, so he'd have enough time to improve his strength and his knees.
From what I gather, he had a serious knee injury to the same knee he tore his ACL on. My main concern is not quickness or jumping ability of which he could regain, but most "Tall" players end up with greatly reduced Lateral movement and strength keeping opposing players off the block or post being it will be tough as a skinny guy when the much bigger NBA players put weight on those knees to get closer to the basket. To me, Noel won't have much of a career in the NBA when all is said and done.
Naturally, he could prove me wrong, but the odds are he will fail than surprise. Thus, too high of a risk selection. This franchise deserves more than another injury riddled high risk situation after all we have been through over the years.
Zmill wrote:ACL injuries aren't what they used to be.