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Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LIII "Lottery/Draft"Edition)

Posted: Fri Apr 5, 2013 4:21 am
by arsenal6106
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2013 Pick, Who Will It Be?

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STRAP-IN!!!
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LIII "Lottery/Draft"Edit

Posted: Fri Apr 5, 2013 4:27 am
by Def Swami
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LIII "Lottery/Draft"Edit

Posted: Fri Apr 5, 2013 4:55 am
by InFlames
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LIII "Lottery/Draft"Edit

Posted: Fri Apr 5, 2013 12:53 pm
by blue and white
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LIII "Lottery/Draft"Edit

Posted: Fri Apr 5, 2013 1:53 pm
by Reverse_Angle
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lol, what is this?

Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LIII "Lottery/Draft"Edit

Posted: Fri Apr 5, 2013 2:11 pm
by trebone
I would rather have a high risk Noel than a high risk Smart, also think Mclemore has 7-8th man off the bench written all over him. The way he crumbled in the NCAA along with Smart speaks volumes to me. Otto is redundant talent for what we have relative to his ceiling.

Noel makes the most sense unless we can move back with phoenix and grab either Burke/MCW/McCollum and that crazy wingspan guy from overseas or Olidapo if he falls to late lottery. I could see Phoenix interested in Mclemore because they need a 2 guard in the worst way.

Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LIII "Lottery/Draft"Edit

Posted: Fri Apr 5, 2013 2:21 pm
by JustDwight
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LIII "Lottery/Draft"Edit

Posted: Fri Apr 5, 2013 2:25 pm
by BadMofoPimp
In regards to the conversation in the previous thread, Antoine Walker blew over $100 mil and is now broke.

Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LIII "Lottery/Draft"Edit

Posted: Fri Apr 5, 2013 2:31 pm
by trebone
BadMofoPimp wrote:In regards to the conversation in the previous thread, Antoine Walker blew over $100 mil and is now broke.



Same could be said for about 60% of professional athletes! Mike Tyson lost almost $400 mil? :o

Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LIII "Lottery/Draft"Edit

Posted: Fri Apr 5, 2013 2:48 pm
by KingRobb02
trebone wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:In regards to the conversation in the previous thread, Antoine Walker blew over $100 mil and is now broke.



Same could be said for about 60% of professional athletes! Mike Tyson lost almost $400 mil? :o

If you have access to it, go watch "Broke" by ESPN. It is a sad story of guys being taken advantage of by people smarter than them. Like accountants straight stealing money. Bad investments by guys willing to take a risk with other people's money. Unpaid taxes, child support, paying for your niece's tuition...

Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LIII "Lottery/Draft"Edit

Posted: Fri Apr 5, 2013 5:45 pm
by JBSouthpaw
trebone wrote:I would rather have a high risk Noel than a high risk Smart, also think Mclemore has 7-8th man off the bench written all over him. The way he crumbled in the NCAA along with Smart speaks volumes to me. Otto is redundant talent for what we have relative to his ceiling.

Noel makes the most sense unless we can move back with phoenix and grab either Burke/MCW/McCollum and that crazy wingspan guy from overseas or Olidapo if he falls to late lottery. I could see Phoenix interested in Mclemore because they need a 2 guard in the worst way.


how are comparing injury risk to talent risk?
every player coming in has the "is he good enough" risk.
btw, Smart's line from his tourney game: M. Smart 14 Pts, 9 Reb, 4 Ast, 5 Stl his only bad stat, 5TOs.

Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LIII "Lottery/Draft"Edit

Posted: Fri Apr 5, 2013 6:08 pm
by Noonskadoodle
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CEDAR POINT!!!!

Best roller coaster park in the WORLD!!!

Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LIII "Lottery/Draft"Edit

Posted: Fri Apr 5, 2013 6:10 pm
by BadMofoPimp
Noonskadoodle wrote:
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CEDAR POINT!!!!

Best roller coaster park in the WORLD!!!


I concur 100%! :rocking:

Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LIII "Lottery/Draft"Edit

Posted: Fri Apr 5, 2013 6:13 pm
by OrlChamps2030
trebone wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:In regards to the conversation in the previous thread, Antoine Walker blew over $100 mil and is now broke.



Same could be said for about 60% of professional athletes! Mike Tyson lost almost $400 mil? :o


Didn't Scottie Pippen go broke for a while too?

Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LIII "Lottery/Draft"Edit

Posted: Fri Apr 5, 2013 6:48 pm
by trebone
JBSouthpaw wrote:
trebone wrote:I would rather have a high risk Noel than a high risk Smart, also think Mclemore has 7-8th man off the bench written all over him. The way he crumbled in the NCAA along with Smart speaks volumes to me. Otto is redundant talent for what we have relative to his ceiling.

Noel makes the most sense unless we can move back with phoenix and grab either Burke/MCW/McCollum and that crazy wingspan guy from overseas or Olidapo if he falls to late lottery. I could see Phoenix interested in Mclemore because they need a 2 guard in the worst way.


how are comparing injury risk to talent risk?
every player coming in has the "is he good enough" risk.
btw, Smart's line from his tourney game: M. Smart 14 Pts, 9 Reb, 4 Ast, 5 Stl his only bad stat, 5TOs.



he was also 5-13 with his teammates going away from in late in the second half because he was not playing well.
I guess you think Shabazz played well in the tourney?

Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LIII "Lottery/Draft"Edit

Posted: Fri Apr 5, 2013 6:59 pm
by JBSouthpaw
trebone wrote:
JBSouthpaw wrote:
trebone wrote:I would rather have a high risk Noel than a high risk Smart, also think Mclemore has 7-8th man off the bench written all over him. The way he crumbled in the NCAA along with Smart speaks volumes to me. Otto is redundant talent for what we have relative to his ceiling.

Noel makes the most sense unless we can move back with phoenix and grab either Burke/MCW/McCollum and that crazy wingspan guy from overseas or Olidapo if he falls to late lottery. I could see Phoenix interested in Mclemore because they need a 2 guard in the worst way.


how are comparing injury risk to talent risk?
every player coming in has the "is he good enough" risk.
btw, Smart's line from his tourney game: M. Smart 14 Pts, 9 Reb, 4 Ast, 5 Stl his only bad stat, 5TOs.



he was also 5-13 with his teammates going away from in late in the second half because he was not playing well.
I guess you think Shabazz played well in the tourney?


Just took some offense to the word crumbled being used.
Def. not his best game, but the whole team shot 40%.

Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LIII "Lottery/Draft"Edit

Posted: Fri Apr 5, 2013 6:59 pm
by KingRobb02
trebone wrote:
JBSouthpaw wrote:
trebone wrote:I would rather have a high risk Noel than a high risk Smart, also think Mclemore has 7-8th man off the bench written all over him. The way he crumbled in the NCAA along with Smart speaks volumes to me. Otto is redundant talent for what we have relative to his ceiling.

Noel makes the most sense unless we can move back with phoenix and grab either Burke/MCW/McCollum and that crazy wingspan guy from overseas or Olidapo if he falls to late lottery. I could see Phoenix interested in Mclemore because they need a 2 guard in the worst way.


how are comparing injury risk to talent risk?
every player coming in has the "is he good enough" risk.
btw, Smart's line from his tourney game: M. Smart 14 Pts, 9 Reb, 4 Ast, 5 Stl his only bad stat, 5TOs.



he was also 5-13 with his teammates going away from in late in the second half because he was not playing well.
I guess you think Shabazz played well in the tourney?

And 2 of those makes came in the closing minute when the game was already over. What scared me was watching him get his pocket picked twice in the backcourt when someone actually tried to pressure him. If anyone remembers the Boston game last year when Avery Bradley made Jameer want to retire, dribbling might be kind of important for a point guard.

Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LIII "Lottery/Draft"Edit

Posted: Fri Apr 5, 2013 7:03 pm
by trebone
^ Thats why I am not a fan of drafting Smart, his ceiling IMO is Stuckey, also why I say crumbled because in the biggest game of his life he was terrible and in no way looked capable of leading an NCAA contending team, let alone an NBA one.

Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LIII "Lottery/Draft"Edit

Posted: Fri Apr 5, 2013 7:19 pm
by The Effect
trebone wrote:he was also 5-13 with his teammates going away from in late in the second half because he was not playing well.
I guess you think Shabazz played well in the tourney?

How many games have we seen Harris go 5-13?? Hows this, hes shooting 38% for his last 10 games!
Are you saying you wouldnt want him either?

Fact is smart does many things well and one bad game doesnt change the fact that hes the best point guard in the draft and is the exact type of player Hennigan looks for

Personally, if hes there, im taking him in a heartbeat, especially if my 2 choices are him and greg oden2!

Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LIII "Lottery/Draft"Edit

Posted: Fri Apr 5, 2013 7:24 pm
by rcklsscognition
Anyone read the top 5 breakout rookies for 2013-2014 on ESPN Insider?? Wondering if Harkless got in.