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Re: Dylan Harper 

Post#141 » by vincecarter4pres » Tue Jun 17, 2025 11:46 am

The-Power wrote:First off, DLo was a great prospect. The fact that he never fully lived up to expectations in the NBA does not mean that a prospect comparable to DLo coming out of college isn't a great prospect.

Second, the comparison really does not make a ton of sense when it comes to athleticism. DLo was so highly sought after in large part because of his projected shooting ability (in addition to his creative playmaking). That's not what people expect from Harper.

The difference in terms of athleticism is easily illustrated by two simple metrics. First, Harper's FTr is 0.419 compared to DLo's 0.303. Second and most notably, Harper's 2P% is 57.4 compared to DLo's 47.9. That's almost 10 percentage points difference, and that's with DLo being the better midrange shooter. The difference stems from Harper getting to the rim a lot more often and converting a lot better when he's there, and that's a function of his athleticism (size, strength, burst).

So no, Harper is not comparable to DLo as an athlete. Does that make him a better prospect? That's debatable – but not because Harper isn't a great prospect but because DLo was a great prospect, too.

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Re: Dylan Harper 

Post#142 » by Upperclass » Tue Jun 17, 2025 3:26 pm

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tmorgan wrote:Harper is not a great athlete, but DLo? C’mon now. Everyone knew DLo was getting by with size and craftiness at OSU and was going to struggle getting into the paint in the pros. Harper is not going to have that problem. I think he’ll have some other issues, but that’s not one of them.

Would actually say Harper indeed is a great athlete. In the same sense Harden, young prime D Will, Fox, etc., were/are great athletes.

He just isn’t a jump out of the gym freak like Vince Carter or Giannis.

He’s not top of the league elite tier, but he’s gonna be way up there.

He’s beyond a Jamal Murray, who is an above average, but not standout athlete.


We'll see. Harper has nothing in common with those athletes other than 2 of the 3 also being left-handed. Seems like a guy whos best performances will be on low expectation teams.
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Re: Dylan Harper 

Post#143 » by ReggiesKnicks » Tue Jun 17, 2025 3:43 pm

Dlo with a driven mindset and desire to get into the paint is an All-NBA player.
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Re: Dylan Harper 

Post#144 » by vincecarter4pres » Yesterday 3:03 pm

ReggiesKnicks wrote:Dlo with a driven mindset and desire to get into the paint is an All-NBA player.

Let alone DLo’s athleticism was always considered super suspect, especially for a lead guard.

He makes Andre Miller look like Baron Davis.
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Re: Dylan Harper 

Post#145 » by vincecarter4pres » Yesterday 3:04 pm

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vincecarter4pres wrote:
tmorgan wrote:Harper is not a great athlete, but DLo? C’mon now. Everyone knew DLo was getting by with size and craftiness at OSU and was going to struggle getting into the paint in the pros. Harper is not going to have that problem. I think he’ll have some other issues, but that’s not one of them.

Would actually say Harper indeed is a great athlete. In the same sense Harden, young prime D Will, Fox, etc., were/are great athletes.

He just isn’t a jump out of the gym freak like Vince Carter or Giannis.

He’s not top of the league elite tier, but he’s gonna be way up there.

He’s beyond a Jamal Murray, who is an above average, but not standout athlete.


We'll see. Harper has nothing in common with those athletes other than 2 of the 3 also being left-handed. Seems like a guy whos best performances will be on low expectation teams.

He actually has a lot in common with them.
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