OhayoKD wrote:PS: The PC Board is fun. You should come down more often.

Are you sure you want that?
Let's all remember Doctor MJ's wise words, immortalized in NO-KG-AI's signature:
I don't understand why people jump in a thread and say basically, "This thing you're all talking about. I'm too ignorant to know anything about it. Lollerskates!"
No RealGM subforum suffers this kind of behavior less often than the PC board. I know it sounds elitist (I don't include myself, I only read and don't participate for a reason), but opening the floodgates to the "undefeated in the Finals is what matters", the "Kawhi stopped Giannis on his own during the '19 Raptors run", the "stats are overrated, I watch the games and I know better" or the "Jokic got exposed in the playoffs" squads has the risk of turning the PC board into a clone of the General Board. And each board has its own identity and its purposes, both equally important to enjoying the RGM experience.
Ugalde wrote:i don’t know how the jordan vs lebron debate is even a thing anymore. mj won clearly.
You forgot to add "in my opinion". And that's all well and good, really. If you think the debate is over, nothing is stopping you from moving on. The only thing you need to do is not open these kind of threads. But forcing others to stop their conversations because of your own personal conclusion is not "all well and good".
Ugalde wrote:he won 6 rings and 5 mvps in 15 years. lebron won 4 rings and 4 mvps in 20 years.
This part will be relevant in a second.
Ugalde wrote:i don’t hold lebron changing teams against him. if cleveland sucked it’s not his fault. but i do hold the fact that he hasn’t been able to attain as much team success while constantly joining the best players in the league on different teams.
If you don't blame LeBron for Cleveland sucking, how come you count rings (a team achievement) against him? Shouldn't you be looking for a more accurate method of quantifying LeBron's impact and talent without leaning on variables such as teammates and/or rivals?
Also, your statement that LeBron constantly joined the best players in the league is highly debatable. If you don't believe me, please make a list of the top 5 players in the league each year, starting on 2011 which is when he changed teams for the first time. Let's see how many times one of those players was on his team. And please, focus on performance for each year, not name recognition. I know Wade was a huge name, but 2013 Wade wasn't close to his peak level (sadly for all of us, one of the great "What if" stories of the last 15 years: an injury-free Wade with longevity = sky is the limit).