Westbrook Trades - Dream a Sweet Dream

[Kilroy]

Would the Wizards be willing to do Westbrook for Porzingis + KCP.... and would that help us become contenders?

Damn, hadn't thought of that one.

How about NY?

Some combination of
Randle, Fournier, Burks, Rose, Nerlens.

I'll die on Randle Island and i think he could have a bounce-back season.

I get that Randle isn't high on anyone's list right now, but he would probably be the single biggest talent we might have an outside shot at getting... And even that isn't terribly realistic... I think if you can trade WB and get back Randle, you'd have to at least consider it...
If the FO won't consider it, it worries me that they may actually 'value' Rusell Westbrook... Which is a terrifying thought.

[danfantastk32]

Would the Wizards be willing to do Westbrook for Porzingis + KCP.... and would that help us become contenders?

Damn, hadn't thought of that one.

How about NY?

Some combination of
Randle, Fournier, Burks, Rose, Nerlens.

I'll die on Randle Island and i think he could have a bounce-back season.

I get that Randle isn't high on anyone's list right now, but he would probably be the single biggest talent we might have an outside shot at getting... And even that isn't terribly realistic... I think if you can trade WB and get back Randle, you'd have to at least consider it...
If the FO won't consider it, it worries me that they may actually 'value' Rusell Westbrook... Which is a terrifying thought.

That or they just wanna get through this season, and be done with it. There's a certain logic to that. If Lebron leaves too, you suddenly have cap space. It's a whole new world.

[slifersd]

I think front office is going to hold onto Westbrook in the end. It seems like we are very much focused on having cap space in 2023. FO probably sees it as the summer where we can use the money to either get help for LeBron or replace him in case he leaves. As such, it is unlikely they take on long term money to jeopardize that plan. And if we are not taking on long term money from another team, they are not trading for Russ for the player. So in the end, we need to figure out how to make this team work with the big three.

[BEazy]

Well if WestBrick is on the squad we aren't winning a championship so no point in watching the season. I even said it if that Brick and turnover machine is on the roster I will not watch any games next season. Here we are...See yall when BrickBrook is off the roster.

[Eric Bieniemy]

How bad does Riley want to get rid of Duncan Robinson?

Robinson and Lowry for Westbrook

[Eric Bieniemy]

Who the hell else (besides the Lakers) wants Brogdon?

He's a good player, for sure, but he's injury prone and owed 67 mill over the next three years.

I can't think of any team that would take that on, especially for any assets.

If the Pacers want to save 60 million dollars, a whole helluva lot of dough (when you include Hield too), is there really any better deal for them than Westbrook?

Add to that, they absolutely have zero need for them. The only thing stopping them is a better deal (that I can't see) and Kevin Pritchard's hatred of the Lakers.

I hope the picks are not what's stopping them, because Brogdon/Hield is a coup for Westbrook.

[TylersLakers]

If Westbrook ACTUALLY stays.. which.. is completely unfathomable and reeks of Laker arrogance - The Lakers HAVE to trade THT. And if Malik Monk is back on the tax-payer MLE, then Westbrook has to be gone.

I hate this team.

[Eric Bieniemy]

https://8points9seconds.com/2022/06/27/indiana-pacers-malcolm-brogdon-asking-price/amp/

[Eric Bieniemy]

Westbrook and two second rounders for Brogdon, Hield, and Bitadze.

[Lakers24gm]

If Westbrook ACTUALLY stays.. which.. is completely unfathomable and reeks of Laker arrogance - The Lakers HAVE to trade THT. And if Malik Monk is back on the tax-payer MLE, then Westbrook has to be gone.

I hate this team.

You sound like me. There is no way I can watch this team next year if they run it back. There is no way they will compete with Russ.

[RamonSessions7]

Lol. No ones bailing us out of Westbrook. Even if a magical trade were to appear, we’d blow it

[DanishLakerFan]

Would the Wizards be willing to do Westbrook for Porzingis + KCP.... and would that help us become contenders?

Damn, hadn't thought of that one.

How about NY?

Some combination of
Randle, Fournier, Burks, Rose, Nerlens.

I'll die on Randle Island and i think he could have a bounce-back season.

I get that Randle isn't high on anyone's list right now, but he would probably be the single biggest talent we might have an outside shot at getting... And even that isn't terribly realistic... I think if you can trade WB and get back Randle, you'd have to at least consider it...
If the FO won't consider it, it worries me that they may actually 'value' Rusell Westbrook... Which is a terrifying thought.

Westbrook for Randle and Fournier would work and improve the Lakers quite a bit. But its a lot of money to take on for a very long time and if it doesn't work out - and/or if Lebron walks next summer - we'd be in a very bad spot.

Another option would be Westbrook to Miami for Kyle Lowry and Duncan Robinson. Lowry was underwhelming in the playoffs and Duncan is overpaid, but both would fit amazingly with Lebron and AD. For Miami they would be able to use Westbrook this upcoming season and pretty much clear the deck for a max FA in 2023 to fit in between Herro, Bam and Jimmy.

[zimpy27]

Cap space in 2023 worth more than a lot of these options. Lakers just got to make it work with Russ somehow..

I think the get Kemba and look in to trading THT for someone.

[tamaraw08]

How bad does Riley want to get rid of Duncan Robinson?

Robinson and Lowry for Westbrook

When was the last time Riley traded players for a player on a steep decline like Westbrook? I know Robinson was rotting in the bench and Lowry was a disappointment but between these players and Westbrook?

[sonnyhill]

If Westbrook ACTUALLY stays.. which.. is completely unfathomable and reeks of Laker arrogance - The Lakers HAVE to trade THT. And if Malik Monk is back on the tax-payer MLE, then Westbrook has to be gone.

I hate this team.

You sound like me. There is no way I can watch this team next year if they run it back. There is no way they will compete with Russ.

Yet, Phil and newly-hired Coach Darvin Ham see Westbrook as integral for the success of the Lakers. I am skeptical, but, at the same time, open-minded. Perhaps, Phil saw how Westbrook and last season's team were not coached properly. Darvin Ham may have a better strategy and plan to integrate LeBron, AD, and Westbrook into a more cohesive "Big 3."

It was not too long ago when Westbrook was averaging a triple-double, won a MVP, and led the Thunder to the NBA finals.

Get the Laker Big 3 some athletic perimeter players who can defend and shoot 3-pt shots and this Laker team may, indeed, be competitive.

[danfantastk32]

Yet, Phil and newly-hired Coach Darvin Ham see Westbrook as integral for the success of the Lakers. I am skeptical, but, at the same time, open-minded. Perhaps, Phil saw how Westbrook and last season's team were not coached properly.

You get that they are "Selling the idea" right? Wesbtrook's been bouncing around since he left OKC. His shot (which was never great) has declined massively, and he's become a negative, instead of a positive. For all teams. His attitude, and style of play don't make for better team. That's always been that way. Long, long ago did OKC get to the finals. With Durant, Harden, Ibaka, and several other players as well.

I'd ask Phil how come all the other coaches have failed to put him in a position to win? Much Like Harden....your only option is to just give him the ball, and see how far it goes......and it always comes up short. We watched like 8-9 years straight of Harden, and Westbrook go big-d$ck-swinging. It got neither of them to the finals...despite being paired with some pretty good talent. That clearly doesn't work....but it's all they really know. Westbrook is a horrible shooter now. And he's losing that crazy explosiveness. But he stubbornly refuses to accept any other way.

Only I wouldn't ask Phil that, since I know Phil is speaking on behalf of Jeanie.....who's trying to sell a tremendously skeptical fanbase on how this will be better next time.

Don't believe Phil. Don't believe Ham. Just like many didn't believe Westbrook 12 months ago, when he said he'd be a different player. I don't hold this against Phil too much, as he's just playing a role. Only he knows better, and he's further throwing Vogel under the bus. That sucks, IMO. And it sucks Jeanie has taken this route.

When next season is done, and it's yet another giant sh** show with Westbrook further ruining the team, I hope Vogel goes on a couple shows and throws some if this back at Jeanie, and Rob, and Westbrick himself. And I hope he tosses the cherry on top by asking why Lebron, and AD stood there silent while he was flushed down the drain.

[bb22]

I think he gets moved mid-season if there’s any shot of making a run.
There is still hope that he could be an asset coming off the bench (as long as we ignore the 47 mil)

[bb22]

If Westbrook ACTUALLY stays.. which.. is completely unfathomable and reeks of Laker arrogance - The Lakers HAVE to trade THT. And if Malik Monk is back on the tax-payer MLE, then Westbrook has to be gone.

I hate this team.

You sound like me. There is no way I can watch this team next year if they run it back. There is no way they will compete with Russ.

Yet, Phil and newly-hired Coach Darvin Ham see Westbrook as integral for the success of the Lakers. I am skeptical, but, at the same time, open-minded. Perhaps, Phil saw how Westbrook and last season's team were not coached properly. Darvin Ham may have a better strategy and plan to integrate LeBron, AD, and Westbrook into a more cohesive "Big 3."

It was not too long ago when Westbrook was averaging a triple-double, won a MVP, and led the Thunder to the NBA finals.

Get the Laker Big 3 some athletic perimeter players who can defend and shoot 3-pt shots and this Laker team may, indeed, be competitive.

The problem is that they basically need a supporting cast of elite defenders to be competitive, but AD and Westbrook are not reliable scorers. Then, in the end, you’re relying on Lebron to create and score. AD needs to elevate his game and find more easy buckets + start playmaking.

[DNP-Old]

Cap space in 2023 worth more than a lot of these options. Lakers just got to make it work with Russ somehow..

I think the get Kemba and look in to trading THT for someone.

I would be surprised if James doesn't sign a 1+1 extension so his opt-out lines up with his son being draft eligible.

[MAMBAEMD]

Russ's drop off as an effective player is really fascinating.
He's become a poor defender, can't hit the outside shot consistently, has a difficult time finishing at the rim, and his untimely turnovers are glaring as a point guard.

He did not at all adjust his game to better suit play with LBJ and/or AD. And I think that has as much to do with him and his personality, than the coach or the system. In that regard, I have zero confidence that he will now all of a sudden adjust his game under Ham.

In short, he is more of a liability than anything on the court.

Yet, it is better to keep him than to make a bad trade.

And if we keep him, as difficult as it would be to eat that massive salary, I'd sit him down or just have him go home.

His expiring contract is less valuable to other teams than a few years ago because teams have become more savvy in managing their cap numbers (the Knicks excluded lol).