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Re: Shams: Jalen Brunson to New York on 4 year/$110m deal 

Post#161 » by GONYK » Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:38 pm

SelbyCobra wrote:
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LOL..

It is if your dad is an employee of a different organization; let’s be real.


I really don't think so - just don't discuss numbers and specifics. Just because a father and son work in the NBA for separate teams does not mean that they can't discuss the son's career and what he wants to do going forward.

It's definitely a loophole and an advantage, but it's also common sense. They're literally family, and as long as they weren't hashing out the legal terms and coming to official agreements, I don't believe there's anything enforceable regarding Jalen and Rick (or even Leon, honestly - he's been a confidant and mentor for Jalen's entire life).


Same goes for Leon and his son, who is Brunson's agent.
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Re: Shams: Jalen Brunson to New York on 4 year/$110m deal 

Post#162 » by HEZI » Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:38 pm

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How am I proving your point? The going rate for a starting PG is around $23 million, outside of rookie contract guys there are no cheap PGs that are good.

Are Fox and SGA really worth $10 million more per season than him?


110 mil for an average PG is insanity but Knicks are thirsty so I get it




$104 million to be exact 8-)



You didn't answer whether or not Fox / SGA were worth $10 million more per, and also Tyus Jones, a backup is getting $15 million per. If he's better than a backup, and not as good as Fox/SGA, then his per year should fall right between them, which it does.


Derrick Rose makes 14 mil per. Our new starter might not even be an upgrade over the reserve and he’s costing double plus draft picks. Ridiculous
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Re: Shams: Jalen Brunson to New York on 4 year/$104m deal 

Post#163 » by Fat Kat » Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:38 pm

:D Didn’t want you, but glad we got you.
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Re: Shams: Jalen Brunson to New York on 4 year/$110m deal 

Post#164 » by TerrenceClarke » Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:39 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
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LOL..

It is if your dad is an employee of a different organization; let’s be real.




Prove it 8-)


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Re: Shams: Jalen Brunson to New York on 4 year/$110m deal 

Post#165 » by SelbyCobra » Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:39 pm

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SelbyCobra wrote:I posted this earlier, but it's worth repeating. If Haynes is correct and it's a 4/$104M deal, that's 21.0% of the expected $123.6M cap next year.

That is roughly the same cap percentage (19.3%) as the 4/$54M deal Robin Lopez signed with the Knicks in 2015 ($70M cap).

Due to the salary cap rising, that Lopez deal and this Brunson deal have almost the same cap impact.

This is a good deal if Brunson is an above average player. Doesn't even have to be a star (but fingers crossed he makes that leap).


Yes cuz signing Robin Lopez was such a masterstroke for us


Right, and it was easy to move on from him when the team needed to because it was only a 20% of the cap contract.

Brunson is in the same category.
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Re: Shams: Jalen Brunson to New York on 4 year/$110m deal 

Post#166 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:40 pm

HEZI wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
HEZI wrote:
110 mil for an average PG is insanity but Knicks are thirsty so I get it




$104 million to be exact 8-)



You didn't answer whether or not Fox / SGA were worth $10 million more per, and also Tyus Jones, a backup is getting $15 million per. If he's better than a backup, and not as good as Fox/SGA, then his per year should fall right between them, which it does.


Derrick Rose makes 14 mil per. Our new starter might not even be an upgrade over the reserve and he’s costing double plus draft picks. Ridiculous




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Come on now HEZI, this is extreme hyperbole.
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Re: Shams: Jalen Brunson to New York on 4 year/$110m deal 

Post#167 » by robillionaire » Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:40 pm

HEZI wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
HEZI wrote:
110 mil for an average PG is insanity but Knicks are thirsty so I get it




$104 million to be exact 8-)



You didn't answer whether or not Fox / SGA were worth $10 million more per, and also Tyus Jones, a backup is getting $15 million per. If he's better than a backup, and not as good as Fox/SGA, then his per year should fall right between them, which it does.


Derrick Rose makes 14 mil per. Our new starter might not even be an upgrade over the reserve and he’s costing double plus draft picks. Ridiculous


Derrick rose is a 90 year old cripple and makes 14M, this makes the Brunson signing look even better
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Re: Shams: Jalen Brunson to New York on 4 year/$110m deal 

Post#168 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:43 pm

robillionaire wrote:
HEZI wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:


$104 million to be exact 8-)



You didn't answer whether or not Fox / SGA were worth $10 million more per, and also Tyus Jones, a backup is getting $15 million per. If he's better than a backup, and not as good as Fox/SGA, then his per year should fall right between them, which it does.


Derrick Rose makes 14 mil per. Our new starter might not even be an upgrade over the reserve and he’s costing double plus draft picks. Ridiculous


Derrick rose is a 90 year old cripple and makes 14M, this makes the Brunson signing look even better

im not even a big brunson fan but i would easily have him over than rose
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Re: Shams: Jalen Brunson to New York on 4 year/$110m deal 

Post#169 » by robillionaire » Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:44 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
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Derrick Rose makes 14 mil per. Our new starter might not even be an upgrade over the reserve and he’s costing double plus draft picks. Ridiculous


Derrick rose is a 90 year old cripple and makes 14M, this makes the Brunson signing look even better

im not even a big brunson fan but i would easily have him over than rose


Rose can’t even play half a season so game to game he may as well make at least 28M
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Re: Shams: Jalen Brunson to New York on 4 year/$110m deal 

Post#170 » by El Poochio » Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:46 pm

SelbyCobra wrote:
El Poochio wrote:
SelbyCobra wrote:I posted this earlier, but it's worth repeating. If Haynes is correct and it's a 4/$104M deal, that's 21.0% of the expected $123.6M cap next year.

That is roughly the same cap percentage (19.3%) as the 4/$54M deal Robin Lopez signed with the Knicks in 2015 ($70M cap).

Due to the salary cap rising, that Lopez deal and this Brunson deal have almost the same cap impact.

This is a good deal if Brunson is an above average player. Doesn't even have to be a star (but fingers crossed he makes that leap).


Yes cuz signing Robin Lopez was such a masterstroke for us


Right, and it was easy to move on from him when the team needed to because it was only a 20% of the cap contract.

Brunson is in the same category.


Brunson + Randle %50 of the cap? Oof
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Re: Shams: Jalen Brunson to New York on 4 year/$104m deal 

Post#171 » by dakomish23 » Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:47 pm

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Re: Shams: Jalen Brunson to New York on 4 year/$110m deal 

Post#172 » by Butch718 » Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:47 pm

HEZI wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
HEZI wrote:
110 mil for an average PG is insanity but Knicks are thirsty so I get it




$104 million to be exact 8-)



You didn't answer whether or not Fox / SGA were worth $10 million more per, and also Tyus Jones, a backup is getting $15 million per. If he's better than a backup, and not as good as Fox/SGA, then his per year should fall right between them, which it does.


Derrick Rose makes 14 mil per. Our new starter might not even be an upgrade over the reserve and he’s costing double plus draft picks. Ridiculous

You might as well have typed, “I haven’t watched any Mavs games.”
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Re: Shams: Jalen Brunson to New York on 4 year/$104m deal 

Post#173 » by El Poochio » Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:48 pm

Knicks building the best bench mob in the history with Brunson and Randle
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Re: Shams: Jalen Brunson to New York on 4 year/$110m deal 

Post#174 » by KNICKS007 » Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:49 pm

El Poochio wrote:
SelbyCobra wrote:
El Poochio wrote:
Yes cuz signing Robin Lopez was such a masterstroke for us


Right, and it was easy to move on from him when the team needed to because it was only a 20% of the cap contract.

Brunson is in the same category.


Brunson + Randle %50 of the cap? Oof


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Re: Shams: Jalen Brunson to New York on 4 year/$110m deal 

Post#175 » by HEZI » Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:49 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
HEZI wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:


$104 million to be exact 8-)



You didn't answer whether or not Fox / SGA were worth $10 million more per, and also Tyus Jones, a backup is getting $15 million per. If he's better than a backup, and not as good as Fox/SGA, then his per year should fall right between them, which it does.


Derrick Rose makes 14 mil per. Our new starter might not even be an upgrade over the reserve and he’s costing double plus draft picks. Ridiculous




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Come on now HEZI, this is extreme hyperbole.


How? Rose carried us to the playoffs and look at his numbers off the bench he’s been as productive as Brunson as a starter
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Re: Shams: Jalen Brunson to New York on 4 year/$104m deal 

Post#176 » by KNICKS007 » Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:50 pm

El Poochio wrote:Knicks building the best bench mob in the history with Brunson and Randle


Bench MOB??

Your lying to yourself
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Re: Shams: Jalen Brunson to New York on 4 year/$110m deal 

Post#177 » by Synciere » Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:51 pm

SelbyCobra wrote:
Synciere wrote:
snadler wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=21&t=9kTSf8DZ4G6VGqE6oMcLUw


LOL..

It is if your dad is an employee of a different organization; let’s be real.


I really don't think so - just don't discuss numbers and specifics. Just because a father and son work in the NBA for separate teams does not mean that they can't discuss the son's career and what he wants to do going forward.

It's definitely a loophole and an advantage, but it's also common sense. They're literally family, and as long as they weren't hashing out the legal terms and coming to official agreements, I don't believe there's anything enforceable regarding Jalen and Rick (or even Leon, honestly - he's been a confidant and mentor for Jalen's entire life).


I’m not saying they would get caught, but any indication of intent before the opening of free agency is tampering in that situation. The moment his father relays that indication to anyone in the Knicks’ organization, be it a blatant statement or a head nod or wink, he’s acting as an agent of the Knicks reporting to a superior on the status of a pending free agent. That’s tampering lol… he’s not a player; he’s employed by the Knicks and Brunson isn’t a Knick yet. As a father he wouldn’t tell anyone in the Knicks organization where his son is leaning.
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Re: Shams: Jalen Brunson to New York on 4 year/$104m deal 

Post#178 » by Sprewell4Three » Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:51 pm

Should have signed Simons instead.


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Re: Shams: Jalen Brunson to New York on 4 year/$110m deal 

Post#179 » by PMONSTER » Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:52 pm

HEZI wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
HEZI wrote:
Derrick Rose makes 14 mil per. Our new starter might not even be an upgrade over the reserve and he’s costing double plus draft picks. Ridiculous




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Come on now HEZI, this is extreme hyperbole.


How? Rose carried us to the playoffs and look at his numbers off the bench he’s been as productive as Brunson as a starter


Man... he looked good vs the Hawks too. Second best player during that series.

Y'all trading Rose?
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Re: Shams: Jalen Brunson to New York on 4 year/$104m deal 

Post#180 » by Fury » Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:52 pm

Sprewell4Three wrote:Should have signed Simons instead.


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