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Shams: Jalen Brunson to New York on 4 year/$104m deal

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Re: Shams: Jalen Brunson to New York on 4 year/$104m deal 

Post#201 » by dukeknicksirish » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:07 pm

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Re: Shams: Jalen Brunson to New York on 4 year/$104m deal 

Post#202 » by HEZI » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:07 pm

Anfernee Simons contract already making the Brunson deal look awful
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Re: Shams: Jalen Brunson to New York on 4 year/$104m deal 

Post#203 » by god shammgod » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:07 pm

NYKnickerbocker wrote:So is this official or not. Just saw woj tweet saying he’s bring armed with an offer from the Mavs


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Re: Shams: Jalen Brunson to New York on 4 year/$104m deal 

Post#204 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:08 pm

i thought the mavs weren't even able to make an offer
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Re: Shams: Jalen Brunson to New York on 4 year/$110m deal 

Post#205 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:08 pm

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Derrick Rose makes 14 mil per. Our new starter might not even be an upgrade over the reserve and he’s costing double plus draft picks. Ridiculous




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Come on now HEZI, this is extreme hyperbole.


How? Rose carried us to the playoffs and look at his numbers off the bench he’s been as productive as Brunson as a starter




Rose averaged 12ppg and missed 56 games, this season.

Brunson averaged 17.5ppg 5.0apg 4.2rpg on 50% FG 39% 3pt in 61 starts this season, that was on a miniscule 21.9 usage rate and 71.6 touches per game.


Just for comparisons sake, Alec Burk's averaged 70.4 touches and a 17.2 usage rate as a starter. If you just replaced Burks with Brunson and didn't even up his usage or touches, he should be right around his 17.5ppg numbers, but he should see a bump in those touches and usage numbers, which should make him a 20ppg scorer on solid efficiency. Keep in mind, his efficiency didn't go down much in the playoffs even though his isolation frequency increased, assisted shots percentage dropped and his usage rate went up 8-)
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Re: Shams: Jalen Brunson to New York on 4 year/$104m deal 

Post#206 » by Adelheid » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:09 pm

They can offer him the max but it would put them in tax hell more or less
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Re: Shams: Jalen Brunson to New York on 4 year/$104m deal 

Post#207 » by TKKnicks1 » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:11 pm

So is Lavine still available? Knicks better make an offer. We got absolutely no one that can create their own shot. Its a damn no brainer. Not sure what it would take to get him here or even if its possible.
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Re: Shams: Jalen Brunson to New York on 4 year/$104m deal 

Post#208 » by Adelheid » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:12 pm

No mitch contract yet but hartenstein here already?

So mitch to ny no more?
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Re: Shams: Jalen Brunson to New York on 4 year/$104m deal 

Post#209 » by Polk377 » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:12 pm

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NYKnickerbocker wrote:So is this official or not. Just saw woj tweet saying he’s bring armed with an offer from the Mavs


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The Knicks are offering him the same amount over 4 years. It's a no brainer at this point.
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Re: Shams: Jalen Brunson to New York on 4 year/$104m deal 

Post#210 » by DOT » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:12 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:i thought the mavs weren't even able to make an offer

Gotta make it look like we're not tampering lol

But if we could work it into a sign and trade for an extra year for a similar amount, get rid of Fournier, that'd actually make this a really good deal instead of just okay.
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Re: Shams: Jalen Brunson to New York on 4 year/$104m deal 

Post#211 » by F N 11 » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:12 pm

4/110 fantastic

They won’t allow Knicks to get a solid deal, have to be OD overpay
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Re: Shams: Jalen Brunson to New York on 4 year/$104m deal 

Post#212 » by DOT » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:13 pm

Adelheid wrote:No mitch contract yet but hartenstein here already?

So mitch to ny no more?

I don't know why people don't understand this

Mitch needs to be signed after we use all our cap cause we can go over the cap to bring him back

So no matter what, he's the last move.
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Re: Shams: Jalen Brunson to New York on 4 year/$104m deal 

Post#213 » by Jeff Van Gully » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:17 pm

DOT wrote:
Adelheid wrote:No mitch contract yet but hartenstein here already?

So mitch to ny no more?

I don't know why people don't understand this

Mitch needs to be signed after we use all our cap cause we can go over the cap to bring him back

So no matter what, he's the last move.


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Re: Shams: Jalen Brunson to New York on 4 year/$104m deal 

Post#214 » by TheGreenArrow » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:17 pm

Knicks are clearly trying to avoid the tampering charges!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Shams: Jalen Brunson to New York on 4 year/$104m deal 

Post#215 » by F N 11 » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:18 pm

CAA the army better yet the navy going to get that bag no if ands or buts.
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Re: Shams: Jalen Brunson to New York on 4 year/$104m deal 

Post#216 » by Adelheid » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:19 pm

DOT wrote:
Adelheid wrote:No mitch contract yet but hartenstein here already?

So mitch to ny no more?

I don't know why people don't understand this

Mitch needs to be signed after we use all our cap cause we can go over the cap to bring him back

So no matter what, he's the last move.


What I'm implying is -- is the knicks really committing that amount of money now to 2 centers (as if all that is necessary)...I already know bird right holders get to be signed last priority only after when prospect FAs are signed
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Re: Shams: Jalen Brunson to New York on 4 year/$104m deal 

Post#217 » by knickstape21 » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:19 pm

I smell S&T
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Re: Shams: Jalen Brunson to New York on 4 year/$110m deal 

Post#218 » by HEZI » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:19 pm

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Come on now HEZI, this is extreme hyperbole.


How? Rose carried us to the playoffs and look at his numbers off the bench he’s been as productive as Brunson as a starter




Rose averaged 12ppg and missed 56 games, this season.

Brunson averaged 17.5ppg 5.0apg 4.2rpg on 50% FG 39% 3pt in 61 starts this season, that was on a miniscule 21.9 usage rate and 71.6 touches per game.


Just for comparisons sake, Alec Burk's averaged 70.4 touches and a 17.2 usage rate as a starter. If you just replaced Burks with Brunson and didn't even up his usage or touches, he should be right around his 17.5ppg numbers, but he should see a bump in those touches and usage numbers, which should make him a 20ppg scorer on solid efficiency. Keep in mind, his efficiency didn't go down much in the playoffs even though his isolation frequency increased, assisted shots percentage dropped and his usage rate went up 8-)


Per 36 they put up almost identical numbers. Last year Rose off the bench put up even better numbers than Brunson as a starter. He’s officially overpaid and now he’s reaching overrated territory.

Anfernee Simons is younger and more talented and already better and he was cheaper oof Brunson deal looking real bad right now
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Re: Shams: Jalen Brunson to New York on 4 year/$104m deal 

Post#219 » by mpharris36 » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:20 pm

Since we signed hartenstein...the brunson deal would need to be a S&T correct?

The hartenstein deal sounds like MLE money as you only have that if you are operating over the cap.
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Re: Shams: Jalen Brunson to New York on 4 year/$104m deal 

Post#220 » by F N 11 » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:20 pm

knickstape21 wrote:I smell S&T

Any legit rumors out there on that?
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