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Re: 100 Pages & Running: The FA/Trade Thread. 

Post#541 » by djFan71 » Fri Jul 1, 2022 5:42 am

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Post#542 » by zoyathedestroya » Fri Jul 1, 2022 6:02 am

Zach Lowe mentions in recent pod that there are rumblings that Jaylen Brown would like to test unrestricted free agent market. Which shouldn't surprise anyone.
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Post#543 » by djFan71 » Fri Jul 1, 2022 6:15 am

zoyathedestroya wrote:Zach Lowe mentions in recent pod that there are rumblings that Jaylen Brown would like to test unrestricted free agent market. Which shouldn't surprise anyone.

Nets are gonna be bummed.
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Post#544 » by Captain_Caveman » Fri Jul 1, 2022 6:26 am

zoyathedestroya wrote:Zach Lowe mentions in recent pod that there are rumblings that Jaylen Brown would like to test unrestricted free agent market. Which shouldn't surprise anyone.


Him playing out the contract is a given, because he will make more in a new contract than he is allowed in an extension. We went through the same thing with Kyrie a couple of years ago.
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Re: 100 Pages & Running: The FA/Trade Thread. 

Post#545 » by zoyathedestroya » Fri Jul 1, 2022 6:30 am

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zoyathedestroya wrote:Zach Lowe mentions in recent pod that there are rumblings that Jaylen Brown would like to test unrestricted free agent market. Which shouldn't surprise anyone.

Nets are gonna be bummed.

Which would make him less attractive to them.

Suns, Heat, Raptors, Pelicans were mentioned as the strongest suitors for KD.
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Post#546 » by return2glory » Fri Jul 1, 2022 6:33 am

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damn.


This was reported like 16 hours ago. I thought everyone knew. I think it was Woj who broke the story Thursday morning.

Stuff like this goes on a lot, including involving celebs/pro players. Unfortunately it's not allows reported.

Let's not forget what Jabari Bird did. But Jabari with like a 12-15th man. Bridges will get a slap on the wrist and be allowed to continue playing in the NBA.
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Post#547 » by BillessuR6 » Fri Jul 1, 2022 6:56 am

I would really like us to risk it a bit with our MLE and go for Warren. We need a third scorer...Galinari would fit well but he is 34 and is losing a step...

Unless we get someone with our TPE who can be that 3rd scorer then Galinari with MLE is OK. But I doubt the owners are willing to go into luxary tax that much...
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Post#548 » by playa-hater » Fri Jul 1, 2022 7:04 am

I'm definitely all in on Warren over galo that isn't even close in my opinion
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Re: 100 Pages & Running: The FA/Trade Thread. 

Post#549 » by FlatearthZorro » Fri Jul 1, 2022 7:21 am

playa-hater wrote:I'm definitely all in on Warren over galo that isn't even close in my opinion


Agreed, then a PG and we're set for next season.
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Re: 100 Pages & Running: The FA/Trade Thread. 

Post#550 » by ParticleMan » Fri Jul 1, 2022 7:26 am

playa-hater wrote:I'm definitely all in on Warren over galo that isn't even close in my opinion


if he's healthy it's a no brainer. but he's played 4 games in the last 2 years.

gallo will get the MLE from someone. i hope it's not us.
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Post#551 » by BostonCouchGM » Fri Jul 1, 2022 7:28 am

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A loss for the Dubs.


Blazers are so stupid, they did all that maneuvering and all they have to show for it is a new overpaid supporting cast who can’t get Lillard a ring. They basically cleared McCollum’s money to pay Simons. Norman Powell, Covington and CJ out, Jerami Grant, Josh Hart and Gary Payton Jr. in…


they've had an excellent off-season. Among the best. You couldn't be more wrong
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Post#552 » by Slim Charless » Fri Jul 1, 2022 8:07 am

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djFan71 wrote:Sure, but pretty easy adjustment to have gallos guy do the screen instead of Horfords or robs

Perhaps. But now you're asking a guy (gallo's guy) play a role and do something out on the court he's not used to doing, you're taking that team out of their normal gameplan/rhythm..

Just saying, people don't usually hunt mismatches vs PF's. PG's, wings and centers will sometimes get abused. Just my opinion that the 4 spot is the easiest spot to hide a poor defender.

Of course Udoka does like his 4's to be good, switchable defenders, though (Al, Grant). So it all goes back to how much do they want gallo's scoring, does it balance out his defense..and for how much on the contract, does gallo choose a different team..

Yeah, I get that. And, again, I'm on board with signing him, it just seemed like you were being a touch dismissive of the ability of teams to attack him. If the other team sees Smart, Jaylen, Tatum, Gallo, Rob, they'll find a way to involve Gallo on D. Agreed that regular season they won't spend as much time planning to attack a 20 minute bench guy, but the guys on the other side will smell him when he walks out there, lol.

I think the pros outweigh the cons, just not going in blindly on the cons.


Suns fan here reading along in this thread. Saw that you guys might want Jae back. Would your FO do a Jae for Grant Williams swap. I assume you could take the balance of Jae's salary into your trade exemption.

I ask because he seems like he'd be a decent dirty work guy who'd fit on Phoenix (with or without KD). Just curious. Thanks.
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Post#553 » by TheBookOfIsaiah » Fri Jul 1, 2022 8:17 am

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djFan71 wrote:
Hal14 wrote:Perhaps. But now you're asking a guy (gallo's guy) play a role and do something out on the court he's not used to doing, you're taking that team out of their normal gameplan/rhythm..

Just saying, people don't usually hunt mismatches vs PF's. PG's, wings and centers will sometimes get abused. Just my opinion that the 4 spot is the easiest spot to hide a poor defender.

Of course Udoka does like his 4's to be good, switchable defenders, though (Al, Grant). So it all goes back to how much do they want gallo's scoring, does it balance out his defense..and for how much on the contract, does gallo choose a different team..

Yeah, I get that. And, again, I'm on board with signing him, it just seemed like you were being a touch dismissive of the ability of teams to attack him. If the other team sees Smart, Jaylen, Tatum, Gallo, Rob, they'll find a way to involve Gallo on D. Agreed that regular season they won't spend as much time planning to attack a 20 minute bench guy, but the guys on the other side will smell him when he walks out there, lol.

I think the pros outweigh the cons, just not going in blindly on the cons.


Suns fan here reading along in this thread. Saw that you guys might want Jae back. Would your FO do a Jae for Grant Williams swap. I assume you could take the balance of Jae's salary into your trade exemption.

I ask because he seems like he'd be a decent dirty work guy who'd fit on Phoenix (with or without KD). Just curious. Thanks.


Nah Grant is younger and better than Jae
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Post#554 » by flintsky21 » Fri Jul 1, 2022 8:51 am

My issue with signing Gallo is not that he won't be able to help (actually he does provide firepower off the bench) but I'm afraid that with Ime's near zero tolerance for bad defense, that he'll sort of just be like a more expensive Juancho. Still think we need a 4 that can push Grant for minutes so that we don't have to play Grant 25 minutes every single night even in his 2-point nights just because there's nobody else. Warren would be perfect but let's face it, he's probably going to end up with Miami or the Lakers.
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Re: 100 Pages & Running: The FA/Trade Thread. 

Post#555 » by Captain_Caveman » Fri Jul 1, 2022 8:57 am

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Hal14 wrote:Perhaps. But now you're asking a guy (gallo's guy) play a role and do something out on the court he's not used to doing, you're taking that team out of their normal gameplan/rhythm..

Just saying, people don't usually hunt mismatches vs PF's. PG's, wings and centers will sometimes get abused. Just my opinion that the 4 spot is the easiest spot to hide a poor defender.

Of course Udoka does like his 4's to be good, switchable defenders, though (Al, Grant). So it all goes back to how much do they want gallo's scoring, does it balance out his defense..and for how much on the contract, does gallo choose a different team..

Yeah, I get that. And, again, I'm on board with signing him, it just seemed like you were being a touch dismissive of the ability of teams to attack him. If the other team sees Smart, Jaylen, Tatum, Gallo, Rob, they'll find a way to involve Gallo on D. Agreed that regular season they won't spend as much time planning to attack a 20 minute bench guy, but the guys on the other side will smell him when he walks out there, lol.

I think the pros outweigh the cons, just not going in blindly on the cons.


Suns fan here reading along in this thread. Saw that you guys might want Jae back. Would your FO do a Jae for Grant Williams swap. I assume you could take the balance of Jae's salary into your trade exemption.

I ask because he seems like he'd be a decent dirty work guy who'd fit on Phoenix (with or without KD). Just curious. Thanks.


That won't happen.
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Post#556 » by Captain_Caveman » Fri Jul 1, 2022 9:01 am

flintsky21 wrote:My issue with signing Gallo is not that he won't be able to help (actually he does provide firepower off the bench) but I'm afraid that with Ime's near zero tolerance for bad defense, that he'll sort of just be like a more expensive Juancho. Still think we need a 4 that can push Grant for minutes so that we don't have to play Grant 25 minutes every single night even in his 2-point nights just because there's nobody else. Warren would be perfect but let's face it, he's probably going to end up with Miami or the Lakers.


You can protect a weaker defender when he is playing against subs. We just lost a title in large part to not having any bench scoring, and clearly need it, primarily on the wings.
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Re: 100 Pages & Running: The FA/Trade Thread. 

Post#557 » by Slim Charless » Fri Jul 1, 2022 9:16 am

Captain_Caveman wrote:
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djFan71 wrote:Yeah, I get that. And, again, I'm on board with signing him, it just seemed like you were being a touch dismissive of the ability of teams to attack him. If the other team sees Smart, Jaylen, Tatum, Gallo, Rob, they'll find a way to involve Gallo on D. Agreed that regular season they won't spend as much time planning to attack a 20 minute bench guy, but the guys on the other side will smell him when he walks out there, lol.

I think the pros outweigh the cons, just not going in blindly on the cons.


Suns fan here reading along in this thread. Saw that you guys might want Jae back. Would your FO do a Jae for Grant Williams swap. I assume you could take the balance of Jae's salary into your trade exemption.

I ask because he seems like he'd be a decent dirty work guy who'd fit on Phoenix (with or without KD). Just curious. Thanks.


That won't happen.


Fair enough. Are you guys looking to keep and re-up him?

Not that Bill Simmons speaks for the Celtic FO but on his podcast he seems to think Grant has slightly worn out his welcome there. I imagine he has a least a cpl sources in the organization.

What do you think you'd want for him? Provided he's available.
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Post#558 » by 31to6 » Fri Jul 1, 2022 9:23 am

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flintsky21 wrote:My issue with signing Gallo is not that he won't be able to help (actually he does provide firepower off the bench) but I'm afraid that with Ime's near zero tolerance for bad defense, that he'll sort of just be like a more expensive Juancho. Still think we need a 4 that can push Grant for minutes so that we don't have to play Grant 25 minutes every single night even in his 2-point nights just because there's nobody else. Warren would be perfect but let's face it, he's probably going to end up with Miami or the Lakers.


You can protect a weaker defender when is is playing against subs. We just lost a title in large part to not having any bench scoring, and clearly need it, primarily on the wings.


I propose without evidence that a weaker 6’10” defender with good reach is “better” than a weaker small defender like Kemba Walker (I know he did a great job taking charges). Anyone have any evidence to support such a claim? (I know I’m doing this backwards)

One “strength” of Gallo’s is he has a low turnover rate.

Another is that he uses his height to his advantage in taking shots from wherever he wants to, including the elbows and in the lane, which could potentially be good modeling for the Jays.

That said if we got TJ Warren instead I’d be pumped:)
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Post#559 » by poopship » Fri Jul 1, 2022 9:34 am

The allure of Gallo and TJ Warren is they can create their own shots and have size, it's a home-run for our needs for no cost. If we can't get that with the TP-MLE and instead get for example OPJ, that creates some desperation for making a trade for a scorer with the Fourier TPE which might end with us over-paying with picks. Get it out of the way and the TPE can be used for depth in whatever form is available for a fair price.
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Post#560 » by zoyathedestroya » Fri Jul 1, 2022 9:36 am

This was only five years ago!! Who needs KD??

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