Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion

[3toheadmelo]

Me and melo after the Pacers pair Ayton with Haliburton

They not ready

Watch on YouTube

[WargamesX]

But in all seriousness
Ayton
whoever/Jalen Smith
Mathurin
Duarte
Hali

That team is going to make a champioship run 2 or 3 years from now-- I'd probably get Gallo to fill that Stretch 4/Maybe move Mathurin to the 2 and get a vet 3 and they might make a deep run this year.

Indiana got the guy the Knicks should of been aiming for in the draft
Got the point guard knicks should of gotten if Randle wasn't such a prick(event though I think I'll be happy with JB once Thibs is fired
also wanted them to sign Jalen Smith(might of gotten a more established 7 foot version in Hart)\
-We probably still can get Ayton --- but who wants a maxed out Center ... amIright...

To me it looks like they jumped from one treadmill to another. I guess they can compete for a championship run if Halliburton and Ayton both become top 20 players

but isn't that what you pay your front office for? Ayton is 23 yrs old with finals experience, defensive center that gives you an athletic 17pts and 10 rbs --- Hali is a defensive 6'5" pt guard that already gives you an efficient 15pts and 8 assists--- and you sandwich another high pick like Mathurin--- it'll take another 3 years b4 these guys are in their prime -- how can anyone dismiss this as another treadmill --- to me they get an A+ even if they don't get Ayton b/c they got a bunch of flexibility on top of top tier talent.

I actually agree with this, but it’s two different teams with two different goals.

The pacers seem ok with rebuilding a good team into a younger team with a longer window than the Knicks. The Knicks have the dual issue of trying to raise ticket prices (by being in the playoffs as many times as possible) while hopefully making a contender sooner than later. All without drafting high in the lottery. Basically the Knicks cannot move the ways the pacers are moving because they are not allowed to rebuild over multiple seasons.

[3toheadmelo]

Banchero is the total package

[Strick]

Banchero is the total package

He has looked incredible. A lot of solid defensive sequences too which I do think he’ll show he’s a lot more capable on that end consistently than he showed in college. Truly gifted scorer especially at that size

[bleedblue3303]

To me it looks like they jumped from one treadmill to another. I guess they can compete for a championship run if Halliburton and Ayton both become top 20 players

but isn't that what you pay your front office for? Ayton is 23 yrs old with finals experience, defensive center that gives you an athletic 17pts and 10 rbs --- Hali is a defensive 6'5" pt guard that already gives you an efficient 15pts and 8 assists--- and you sandwich another high pick like Mathurin--- it'll take another 3 years b4 these guys are in their prime -- how can anyone dismiss this as another treadmill --- to me they get an A+ even if they don't get Ayton b/c they got a bunch of flexibility on top of top tier talent.

I actually agree with this, but it’s two different teams with two different goals.

The pacers seem ok with rebuilding a good team into a younger team with a longer window than the Knicks. The Knicks have the dual issue of trying to raise ticket prices (by being in the playoffs as many times as possible) while hopefully making a contender sooner than later. All without drafting high in the lottery. Basically the Knicks cannot move the ways the pacers are moving because they are not allowed to rebuild over multiple seasons.

Whats crazy it doesn't take that long. OKC had Paul George and Westbrook 3 years ago. They are building a competitor for the next 10 plus years. I agree the Knicks cannot build like the pacers because ownership will not allow it. Its extremely shortsighted on ownership part. What crazy we are still the most valuable franchise in the NBA if we had an amazing team I believe its value would double.

[WargamesX]

Banchero is the total package

He has looked incredible. A lot of solid defensive sequences too which I do think he’ll show he’s a lot more capable on that end consistently than he showed in college. Truly gifted scorer especially at that size

Banchero and Franz Wagner are going to be an interesting pair. Two big wing forwards.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

The East has gotten really talented out of nowhere.

[3toheadmelo]

damn i stopped paying attention and i see keegan sent it to OT wtf

[Strick]

This Kings vs Magic SL game has been insane

Banchero needs to take over in OT but I love his willingness to get others involved.

[Gravy]

Magic trying to tank in Summer league too

[Strick]

Keon Ellis is NICE. Showing he can be more than strictly 3 and D

[Deeeez Knicks]

Banchero is legit. Want to see Sudden death

[Strick]

Banchero is legit. Want to see Sudden death

Defense looks much better than advertised and I love his passing!

Spoiler:

Him and SenGOON will be throwing many BAF dimes for the T-pups

I would love to see some sudden death too. I love that element of SL

[Strick]

Man, I wish Banchero just took the 3 himself there but still have a shot at sudden death

[3toheadmelo]

are you not entertained!!!

[Strick]

Hell of a game there

[WargamesX]

but isn't that what you pay your front office for? Ayton is 23 yrs old with finals experience, defensive center that gives you an athletic 17pts and 10 rbs --- Hali is a defensive 6'5" pt guard that already gives you an efficient 15pts and 8 assists--- and you sandwich another high pick like Mathurin--- it'll take another 3 years b4 these guys are in their prime -- how can anyone dismiss this as another treadmill --- to me they get an A+ even if they don't get Ayton b/c they got a bunch of flexibility on top of top tier talent.

I actually agree with this, but it’s two different teams with two different goals.

The pacers seem ok with rebuilding a good team into a younger team with a longer window than the Knicks. The Knicks have the dual issue of trying to raise ticket prices (by being in the playoffs as many times as possible) while hopefully making a contender sooner than later. All without drafting high in the lottery. Basically the Knicks cannot move the ways the pacers are moving because they are not allowed to rebuild over multiple seasons.

Whats crazy it doesn't take that long. OKC had Paul George and Westbrook 3 years ago. They are building a competitor for the next 10 plus years. I agree the Knicks cannot build like the pacers because ownership will not allow it. Its extremely shortsighted on ownership part. What crazy we are still the most valuable franchise in the NBA if we had an amazing team I believe its value would double.

I don’t know I think OKC is still a good 2-4 seasons from a playoff run. They are doing their own version of “the Process” but aren’t openly focusing on injured guys with potential as much as they are just grabbing young guys in general with high potential.

Knicks meanwhile strategy has been to draft “known” talent that still has room to be developed. With a window starting more or less now.

[DaGawd]

That game was fire

[Madskillzz024]

https://sports.yahoo.com/heat-knicks-discussed-cam-reddish-201608604.html

Pat is smart

[3toheadmelo]

It’s too bad Sacramento and Detroit didn’t like any of our youth for Ivey