Breaking: Kevin Durant has requested a trade; UPDATE: KD wants Sean Marks/Nash fired - Shams

[NetsWorld]

Does this Kyrie trade get KD back in the fold?

Nets receive - Poeltl, Conley
Utah receives - Cam Thomas, big TPE
Lakers receive - Kyrie + McDermott
Spurs receive - 3 FRPs (1 from Utah, 2 from LAL), Westbrook

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=25ldnag6

Conley / Patty
Curry / O'Neale
Simmons / Harris
KD / Warren
Poeltl / Claxton

that's a much improved defensive team. could probably use another bigger stretch wing, but lot's of shooting around KD and Simmons.

What KD does not realize is Harden was a better fit with him when Kyrie was out. They went 21-9 and first in the East; Kyrie's return and the Covid protocols/Injuries messed everything up. But I would much rather have kept Harden than Kyrie and hindsight shows that very well. The only issue they had was the defensive minded players they had were awful shooters or atleast.....Unreliable. Bembry,Johnson and Carter were all trash offensively but they still managed to own the 1 seed. Harden sacrificed for KD's ISO play.... Two players going ISO does not work anymore, hence why Harden was smart enough to become a facilitator and score when needed. I am all for a Kyrie to LA trade and getting Indy involved if we somehow land Hield/Turner out of it.

[TinmanZBoy]

All KD needs to do is to hold his little bitch Kyrie accountable then he is in the best position to win a championship… it’s that simple, you are Kevin Durant, others should join you to win, not the other way around…

[TheNetsFan]

So there's more & more hints that KD & Kyrie will be running it back for one more go in Brooklyn. The latest was Ian Eagle, who is as connected & reputable as they come.

[MrDollarBills]

All KD needs to do is to hold his little bitch Kyrie accountable then he is in the best position to win a championship… it’s that simple, you are Kevin Durant, others should join you to win, not the other way around…

You have something backwards here.

Kyrie isn't Durant's bitch, it's the other way around. Durant is Kyrie's bitch boy. 100%.

Every time I see KD now all I can think about is this quote from the show The Boys:

[3pt_chucker]

Does this Kyrie trade get KD back in the fold?

Nets receive - Poeltl, Conley
Utah receives - Cam Thomas, big TPE
Lakers receive - Kyrie + McDermott
Spurs receive - 3 FRPs (1 from Utah, 2 from LAL), Westbrook

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=25ldnag6

Conley / Patty
Curry / O'Neale
Simmons / Harris
KD / Warren
Poeltl / Claxton

that's a much improved defensive team. could probably use another bigger stretch wing, but lot's of shooting around KD and Simmons.

I doubt it.

Conley is washed and has been declining the last couple seasons. I like Poeltl tho.

Also, Curry is too small to start. Harris or O'neal would start.

[N Ireland Nets]

The Nets were close to an extension with Irving prior to him opting into his 1 year deal, people need to remember that. The Nets FO and ownership have let KD see his options via trade and frankly they haven't been great plus Irving wants to be at home still. I truly believe both will be Nets next season and Irving will be extended. The deal the Nets would need to trade KD would hurt the team (outside of GSW) to the point they wouldn't be contenders in my mind.

But I'd take GSW with Wisemann, Kuminga, Poole type of deal with salary to make it work, a Raptors deal with Barnes and OG as my top 2 options with New Orleans with Ingram involved as 3rd best deal.

Again, I just don't see the Nets accepting a lowball offer while KD has to look at this potential roster:

Simmons
Irving
Harris
KD
Claxton

Mills, Curry, Thomas, O'Neale, TJ Warren as well. If Irving was re-signed we could still make further moves with the 76ers pick down the road to be even better as well.

[Stone]

I still can't get past why KD wants out.....Did he get a case of the ass and not want to live-play-work in Brooklyn? Is it the the Kyrie extension or lack there of? Is it Sean Marks, IIRC he went to Joe Tsai with his trade request? All of a sudden he just wants to take his ball and go home?

He has as good of title she with us as he does with the Suns or the Heat. Or does he realize the experiment failed and it is time to search for greener pastures?

[MrDollarBills]

I would take Poole, Wiseman, Kuminga, Moody and 2 1sts, 1 swap

[JoseRizal]

I still can't get past why KD wants out.....Did he get a case of the ass and not want to live-play-work in Brooklyn? Is it the the Kyrie extension or lack there of? Is it Sean Marks, IIRC he went to Joe Tsai with his trade request? All of a sudden he just wants to take his ball and go home?

He has as good of title she with us as he does with the Suns or the Heat. Or does he realize the experiment failed and it is time to search for greener pastures?

I think KD's displeasure started with how the Nets handled the Kyrie no vax issue. KD has always supported Kyrie's looney episodes, from taking days off, to his personal choices, etc.

There was a stretch last season that KD was all by himself, and I think he blames the FO for not allowing Kyrie to play on a part-time basis. Knowing KD, instead of convincing his pal to take the jab, he blames it to the Nets. Then, when Harden left, and he's all alone again, this forced the FO to give in and let Kyrie play.

With how he got swept by the Celtics and witnessed Steph winning another ring (w/o him), I think he felt that should the FO allowed Kyrie to play earlier, they would've gotten a better seed and will not be forced to play Boston early.

I think the final nail in the coffin is when the FO refused to give Kyrie an extension. Again, Kevin being the true pal that he is (to a fault) took offense and eventually called Joe Tsai and asked to be traded.

At the end of the day, I really cannot fault the FO for wanting to take back the power, but I also felt that they made bad decisions along the way by hiring Nash (who was reported to have a rift with Kyrie), removing KD's shooting coach, etc.

But ultimately, the blame will always be on Kyrie, who's known to destroy franchises and KD for not having a backbone.

[vincecarter4pres]

I would take Poole, Wiseman, Kuminga, Moody and 2 1sts, 1 swap

I think I'd take just Wiseman, Moody, 2 1sts, 2 swaps and ship Wiggins to a 3rd team who would send 2 more 1st's here with either a solid player on a longer and smaller deal, or any old expiring.

Maybe Kuminga instead of Wiseman.

I think Moody is going to come out of nowhere the next few years and wind up a 20/4/4 guy with good defense and efficiency, who can create for himself and others, but still gets his in the flow of the game and off ball, with great transition play.

Perennial top 30-50 player starting around the 2024-25 season until he's in his early 30's.

[N Ireland Nets]

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Run it back?

[Riconet]

My 2 cents:

- Kyrie, for all his space cadet-ness, has handled this summer in an economically rational way. He's tried to get what he wants and then taken the best option available to him. First he tried to get a long-term deal from the Nets, as that was his top choice. When the Nets made it clear that they weren't going to give him that kind of contract, he shopped around the NBA to see if anyone would give him one. When he realized that no other team was interested in giving him a long-term deal, he opted in and guaranteed himself $37MM, knowing that doing so would still allow a Nets extension or a trade to another team, which could also result in an extension.

Then, Kyrie tried to force his way to the Lakers, despite having zero leverage. But he did so behind the scenes, and not publicly, because he knew that avoiding a public ultimatum would keep his options open. He's now continuing to keep his options open, knowing that if a trade doesn't happen, he still has KD in his corner and the 2 of them returning to the Nets could still work out for him.

- OTOH, KD has acted in a somewhat irrational and emotional manner. He's gotten everything he wanted from the Nets and still demanded a trade, even though he knows that a trade means he won't be playing with Kyrie any longer. He hasn't acted completely irrationally, though, because he too has kept things private, which could allow him to smooth things over with the Nets and return to them next season.

- The Nets have been pretty smart about this. They have refused to give Kyrie an extension for obvious reasons, but haven't publicly roasted him. They also haven't publicly stated any ultimatums about KD. Even though I'm sure Marks and Tsai are extremely PO'd with KD and Kyrie, they haven't burned any bridges. They are keeping their options open because doing so allows the possibility of their desired outcome -- KD back and Kyrie gone.

- I don't think we'll have a resolution until we get closer to training camp.

[NetsWorld]

My 2 cents:

- Kyrie, for all his space cadet-ness, has handled this summer in an economically rational way. He's tried to get what he wants and then taken the best option available to him. First he tried to get a long-term deal from the Nets, as that was his top choice. When the Nets made it clear that they weren't going to give him that kind of contract, he shopped around the NBA to see if anyone would give him one. When he realized that no other team was interested in giving him a long-term deal, he opted in and guaranteed himself $37MM, knowing that doing so would still allow a Nets extension or a trade to another team, which could also result in an extension.

Then, Kyrie tried to force his way to the Lakers, despite having zero leverage. But he did so behind the scenes, and not publicly, because he knew that avoiding a public ultimatum would keep his options open. He's now continuing to keep his options open, knowing that if a trade doesn't happen, he still has KD in his corner and the 2 of them returning to the Nets could still work out for him.

- OTOH, KD has acted in a somewhat irrational and emotional manner. He's gotten everything he wanted from the Nets and still demanded a trade, even though he knows that a trade means he won't be playing with Kyrie any longer. He hasn't acted completely irrationally, though, because he too has kept things private, which could allow him to smooth things over with the Nets and return to them next season.

- The Nets have been pretty smart about this. They have refused to give Kyrie an extension for obvious reasons, but haven't publicly roasted him. They also haven't publicly stated any ultimatums about KD. Even though I'm sure Marks and Tsai are extremely PO'd with KD and Kyrie, they haven't burned any bridges. They are keeping their options open because doing so allows the possibility of their desired outcome -- KD back and Kyrie gone.

- I don't think we'll have a resolution until we get closer to training camp.

Kyrie doesn't want to leave the Nets; if he does, it's the Nets who don't want....And rightfully so. I would not be surprised at trades talks heating up around December where Kyrie picks up his value and Nets probably end up looking at a Kyrie/AD swap or for a group of young players elsewhere who will help us and be a chemistry fit along with KD/Simmons. I repeat, Kyrie DOES NOT work with KD by himself, you need a third guy.....That third guy is a ? mark right now with his back. Simmons is a better facilitator and defender than Harden ever was but he can bridge the gap, if not, you need to get shooters and defenders for him.

[N Ireland Nets]

Again, I still see KD and Irving staying with the Nets and during the season after a good start or post deadline Irving agreeing an extension but if we were to trade, get KD to the Warriors to bring back their young studs.

https://fanspo.com/nba/trade-machine

Using Fanspo,

KD to warriors with Dallas picks
Wiggins to Dallas
Poole, Wisemann, Kuminga, Dinwiddie & Bullock.

Simmons
Irving
Harris
Kuminga
Wisemann

Bench: Poole, Mills, Curry, Thomas, O'Neale, Dinwiddie, Bullock, Claxton, Sharpe, TJ Warren

[MrDollarBills]

KD had better show his bitch ass up at camp. That's where this is all headed.

None of the deals for either Irving or KD are worth taking. Run it back, and Kyrie is free either to sign a reasonable extension or he can go to the Lakers next summer.

[GTR11]

KD had better show his bitch ass up at camp. That's where this is all headed.

None of the deals for either Irving or KD are worth taking. Run it back, and Kyrie is free either to sign a reasonable extension or he can go to the Lakers next summer.

I'm not sure about it. That LA trade is more than attractive, it's gold mine, getting two first roumders for Kyrie is a highway robbery. Add the fact you can flip expiring Russ contract for assets from Charlotte and it's hard to be patient.

If we going into season with Kyrie on board, i think time will be working against us. LA will start lowering their offer since they can get him for free next FA. Only think we can hope for is Russ creating chaos and derailing their season, even that is questionable, it's in his interest to play good to boost his value.

Bottom line here, we got two major players that don't want to be here. Keeping them here against their will is distraction and disaster waiting to happen. Marks need to prove he's worth that next contact. His job on the line right now. If he fails to meet expectations, than he needs to be fired.

[TinmanZBoy]

Winning solves it all … the risk of running it back is when they hit adversity… they will be very fragile… but it will always be the case with Kyrie and KD, none of them is an Alfa,

[NetsWorld]

Winning solves it all … the risk of running it back is when they hit adversity… they will be very fragile… but it will always be the case with Kyrie and KD, none of them is an Alfa,

I would And1 your post but being that you are a Rockets fan, we know you are praying for the demise of the Nets. KD/Kyrie available and healthy nullifies those picks you guys are salivating for. KD/Kyrie on the squad along with Simmons puts us in top 3 contention for a title while you guys are nothing but bottom dwellers. Although I must say I enjoyed the Harden/CP3 era of basketball with all the competition out West; good luck getting back to that point, it ain't happening soon. Nets4Life.

[NetsWorld]

KD had better show his bitch ass up at camp. That's where this is all headed.

None of the deals for either Irving or KD are worth taking. Run it back, and Kyrie is free either to sign a reasonable extension or he can go to the Lakers next summer.

He will, not worried about that. The guy is 33 going on 34, he won't waste time and money. He loves basketball. I only ask they both clear their damn heads and focus on being good leaders, THAT'S IT. The hard part about getting them to run it back is over.....And you guys can thank ScoopB for the insight, because these media pundits did nothing but create drama and stir up ratings with all these talks....But now is the time for them to show leadership.

[jibba jones]

My only question: Was there anything from KD that mentioned he is backing off the trade request in any way?

What does he care if the Nets don't receive offers they like? That doesn't change him wanting out?

All the talk about running it back? Is anyone sure he has any interest in any of that? How willing is he to risk injury (delaying a trade) playing for a team he dosent want to be on?

If the Nets hold steady and dont make a deal, isnt there a chance this gets even uglier? KD has always been pretty specific...