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Update: Shams says NY/Utah have began trade discussions for Donovan Mitchell part 3

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Re: Update: Shams says NY/Utah have began trade discussions for Donovan Mitchell part 3 

Post#521 » by TrueWarrior » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:42 pm

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TrueWarrior wrote:So there’s no way we actually planned to get Brunson and Mitchell together right. We obviously just got Brunson and are now going after Mitchell since they traded Gobert.

Id feel more comfy if we didnt already get a 6 foot PG for 104 million. Mitchell would immediately make Brunson less useful. He is gonna have the ball less here than he did in Dallas. He just makes no sense with Mitchell, but I actually care about defense so silly me.

Id rather have Mitchell be the quasi PG alongside Grimes.


This is not true. Team basketball. They can complement each other extremely well.


On offense it can work if they really share the ball, although Mitchell can chuck like no other so Im not sure. On defense they’re just too small.

A lower usage, bigger, defensive shooting guard like Grimes makes more sense to me. Have Mitchell defend the PGs. We have other guys who can create a bit so Brunson is redundant to me, but to each their own.
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Re: Update: Shams says NY/Utah have began trade discussions for Donovan Mitchell part 3 

Post#522 » by 3toheadmelo » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:42 pm

this deal is not happening
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Re: Update: Shams says NY/Utah have began trade discussions for Donovan Mitchell part 3 

Post#523 » by sol537 » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:43 pm

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Re: Update: Shams says NY/Utah have began trade discussions for Donovan Mitchell part 3 

Post#524 » by god shammgod » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:44 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:this deal is not happening


don't look like it right now. it he ends up somewhere else, leon might as well start packing.
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Re: Update: Shams says NY/Utah have began trade discussions for Donovan Mitchell part 3 

Post#525 » by thebuzzardman » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:45 pm

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Maybe Grimes is the deal breaker for the Knicks. That or the piece that woke them up to say we are giving up way to much value.


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More repeating of same set of reporting put out 24 hours ago
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Re: Update: Shams says NY/Utah have began trade discussions for Donovan Mitchell part 3 

Post#526 » by 3toheadmelo » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:46 pm

god shammgod wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:this deal is not happening


don't look like it right now. it he ends up somewhere else, leon might as well start packing.

and for you to head back into retirement with wingo
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Re: Update: Shams says NY/Utah have began trade discussions for Donovan Mitchell part 3 

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Re: Update: Shams says NY/Utah have began trade discussions for Donovan Mitchell part 3 

Post#528 » by bearadonisdna » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:46 pm

Wow thank god Knicks didn’t trade those bench pieces .
Gotta get back to the Mitch Robinson deal and only 3 picks.
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Re: Update: Shams says NY/Utah have began trade discussions for Donovan Mitchell part 3 

Post#529 » by Deeeez Knicks » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:47 pm

god shammgod wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:this deal is not happening


don't look like it right now. it he ends up somewhere else, leon might as well start packing.


That would be crazy if this deal fell apart. Knicks would get killed in the media, fans would riot, and Dolan would be fuming
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Re: Update: Shams says NY/Utah have began trade discussions for Donovan Mitchell part 3 

Post#530 » by god shammgod » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:47 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:this deal is not happening


don't look like it right now. it he ends up somewhere else, leon might as well start packing.

and for you to head back into retirement with wingo


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Re: Update: Shams says NY/Utah have began trade discussions for Donovan Mitchell part 3 

Post#531 » by Chanel Bomber » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:48 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:this deal is not happening


don't look like it right now. it he ends up somewhere else, leon might as well start packing.


That would be crazy if this deal fell apart. Knicks would get killed in the media, fans would riot, and Dolan would be fuming

There's no Deron Williams fall-back option this time around.
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Re: Update: Shams says NY/Utah have began trade discussions for Donovan Mitchell part 3 

Post#532 » by captvict » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:48 pm

Man. Let’s give Brunson a chance to fully run this team. He will make everyone better. Mitchell will be obsessed with the NY limelight and being the man that it will be more detrimental in the end….
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Re: Update: Shams says NY/Utah have began trade discussions for Donovan Mitchell part 3 

Post#533 » by god shammgod » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:50 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:this deal is not happening


don't look like it right now. it he ends up somewhere else, leon might as well start packing.


That would be crazy if this deal fell apart. Knicks would get killed in the media, fans would riot, and Dolan would be fuming


and i'm sure ainge knows that and is using that against them to drive up the price.....but they still gotta get it done somehow.
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Re: Update: Shams says NY/Utah have began trade discussions for Donovan Mitchell part 3 

Post#534 » by DowNY » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:50 pm

Lol the spider tweet.
If it’s cryptic, the only other prominent figure that comes to mind is Spider-Man. Those recent live action movies have the word “HOME” in each of them.

So there’s my reach of the week.
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Re: Update: Shams says NY/Utah have began trade discussions for Donovan Mitchell part 3 

Post#535 » by 3toheadmelo » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:51 pm

DowNY wrote:Lol the spider tweet.
If it’s cryptic, the only other prominent figure that comes to mind is Spider-Man. Those recent live action movies have the word “HOME” in each of them.

So there’s my reach of the week.

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Re: Update: Shams says NY/Utah have began trade discussions for Donovan Mitchell part 3 

Post#536 » by DowNY » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:51 pm

captvict wrote:Man. Let’s give Brunson a chance to fully run this team. He will make everyone better. Mitchell will be obsessed with the NY limelight and being the man that it will be more detrimental in the end….

How can you assume & judge those character traits?
What if Brunson is the one who gets obsessed with the NY limelight ? They’re both from NY
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Re: Update: Shams says NY/Utah have began trade discussions for Donovan Mitchell part 3 

Post#537 » by ag3 » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:52 pm

I highly doubt that the deal will fall apart. Dolan wont allow it. He is staying out of it right now, but if the deal is on the verge of collapse, he will force Rose to give in.

No way can we lose Mitchell now.
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Re: Update: Shams says NY/Utah have began trade discussions for Donovan Mitchell part 3 

Post#538 » by Knox » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:52 pm

god shammgod wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
don't look like it right now. it he ends up somewhere else, leon might as well start packing.


That would be crazy if this deal fell apart. Knicks would get killed in the media, fans would riot, and Dolan would be fuming


and i'm sure ainge knows that and is using that against them to drive up the price.....but they still gotta get it done somehow.


It’s the Knicks
We do the deal = they kill us in the media
We don’t do the deal = they kill us in the media.

We shouldn’t have to do an obnoxious deal because ainge destroyed the wolves.
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Re: Update: Shams says NY/Utah have began trade discussions for Donovan Mitchell part 3 

Post#539 » by Jay10 » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:52 pm

Br00kLyn wrote:We all know the Knicks are gonna be the one that caves in this deal. The desperation to bring a star to this team is too high, and Dolan will eventually get involved and pull the trigger and give Ainge what he wants


If Dolan does his nonsense again, the entire front office and coaching staff should re-sign.
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Re: Update: Shams says NY/Utah have began trade discussions for Donovan Mitchell part 3 

Post#540 » by ag3 » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:53 pm

captvict wrote:Man. Let’s give Brunson a chance to fully run this team. He will make everyone better. Mitchell will be obsessed with the NY limelight and being the man that it will be more detrimental in the end….


What? That will likely help Mitchell and bring him to another level. He's only 25 years old and has room to get even better.

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