Off-Season Volume 6 - The One Where Someone (Darius Days) Signs

[MettaWorldPanda]

Some leftovers guys to target if we miss out on the real whales :

Bojan Bogdanovic - experienced stretch 4 good scorer with suspect defense

John Collins - Looks to be getable, locked in a long term deal that might be overpaying him

Myles Turner - on the trade block, he's expiring and had some health issues

Oshae Brissett - young cheap big wing with role player potential

You missed Harrison Barnes and Marcus Morris Sr. Collins i think is out of the question as the Hawks probably have us last on the list of places to deal him too. Turner i think is very possible but might cost us two picks with Duncan having to go back to them.

[HeatingUp3]

Some leftovers guys to target if we miss out on the real whales :

Bojan Bogdanovic - experienced stretch 4 good scorer with suspect defense

John Collins - Looks to be getable, locked in a long term deal that might be overpaying him

Myles Turner - on the trade block, he's expiring and had some health issues

Oshae Brissett - young cheap big wing with role player potential

If we're able to get Collins its a grad A consolation prize. I wonder how much time we gonna try finding a way for a KD deal until we say stop and move on.

[Flash4thewin]

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My dude Alf said it best here. This is a market that could set franchises back decades. If Durant suffers an injury we are so phucked mortgaging everything for a small window. Let’s not cave in to these absurd demands. Let the Knicks Knick for Mitchell. Shore up our weak spots reasonably and let’s run this back with our heads high and chemistry intact. Let us not be sucker’s of the moment. We have a very good team here that plays well together.

Unfortunately we need to do something major. This team as constructed cannot last another year. Herro is looking at getting 25+ mil a year, thats not even counting our other players whose deal ends. Diopo if he has a good year will cost us double his current salary. Remember we are not know for paying the tax so something has to give. Thats not even talking about Butler and Lowry being a year older. Something has to give. Say Bam is out for the season, with the way we play defense its not going to go well for us. Something drastic has to happen. So we are on the desperate side unless you think Mickey will pay the tax for this team

[HeatFanLifer]

Some leftovers guys to target if we miss out on the real whales :

Bojan Bogdanovic - experienced stretch 4 good scorer with suspect defense

John Collins - Looks to be getable, locked in a long term deal that might be overpaying him

Myles Turner - on the trade block, he's expiring and had some health issues

Oshae Brissett - young cheap big wing with role player potential

If we're able to get Collins its a grad A consolation prize. I wonder how much time we gonna try finding a way for a KD deal until we say stop and move on.

I think Crowder is an option too. Suns salary right now tops 110M on just 4 players.

[wade44]

Agreed on Collins if we can somehow get him for cheap. He would fit perfectly here but like MWP said no way Hawks trade him to a division rival for nothing

[RexBoyWonder]

Some leftovers guys to target if we miss out on the real whales :

Bojan Bogdanovic - experienced stretch 4 good scorer with suspect defense

John Collins - Looks to be getable, locked in a long term deal that might be overpaying him

Myles Turner - on the trade block, he's expiring and had some health issues

Oshae Brissett - young cheap big wing with role player potential

You missed Harrison Barnes and Marcus Morris Sr. Collins i think is out of the question as the Hawks probably have us last on the list of places to deal him too. Turner i think is very possible but might cost us two picks with Duncan having to go back to them.

I don't think Barnes is getable, Kings are desperate for a playoff spot and they need him badly.

M.Morris is Just don't like and wouldn't give any assets for, I don't think it will be a good trade for us to pay for him.

[RexBoyWonder]

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My dude Alf said it best here. This is a market that could set franchises back decades. If Durant suffers an injury we are so phucked mortgaging everything for a small window. Let’s not cave in to these absurd demands. Let the Knicks Knick for Mitchell. Shore up our weak spots reasonably and let’s run this back with our heads high and chemistry intact. Let us not be sucker’s of the moment. We have a very good team here that plays well together.

Unfortunately we need to do something major. This team as constructed cannot last another year. Herro is looking at getting 25+ mil a year, thats not even counting our other players whose deal ends. Diopo if he has a good year will cost us double his current salary. Remember we are not know for paying the tax so something has to give. Thats not even talking about Butler and Lowry being a year older. Something has to give. Say Bam is out for the season, with the way we play defense its not going to go well for us. Something drastic has to happen. So we are on the desperate side unless you think Mickey will pay the tax for this team

The team can definitely last another year, but it will be last affordable year for this roster.

Herro, Dipo, Strus, Vincent, Yurt are going to get paid AFTER this upcoming season.

So we can still make a move at trade deadline, some of these guys might actually up their value for contenders.

The question is can we repeat last's season with the same roster? I say probably not, because Celtics, Bucks and Sixers got better.

If we get rid of Lowey and Duncan after this year (48Mil Combined!), we might be able to keep all these guys (they should cost around that number, probably even 60+ Mil combined)...but we'll still be missing that star piece (unless Herro takes another big leap).

[inhabitMiami]

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My dude Alf said it best here. This is a market that could set franchises back decades. If Durant suffers an injury we are so phucked mortgaging everything for a small window. Let’s not cave in to these absurd demands. Let the Knicks Knick for Mitchell. Shore up our weak spots reasonably and let’s run this back with our heads high and chemistry intact. Let us not be sucker’s of the moment. We have a very good team here that plays well together.

Except:

A) we will be forced to pay Tyler
B) forced to pay g league overperformers like Gabe and Strus long term deals at the end of next season or else our roster would be "gutted" regardless.

If we're not going to make a big move, we likely aren't really contending during Jimmy's window. At that point I rather get Mitchell to pair next to Bam for long term growth. Just my 2c.

[RexBoyWonder]

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My dude Alf said it best here. This is a market that could set franchises back decades. If Durant suffers an injury we are so phucked mortgaging everything for a small window. Let’s not cave in to these absurd demands. Let the Knicks Knick for Mitchell. Shore up our weak spots reasonably and let’s run this back with our heads high and chemistry intact. Let us not be sucker’s of the moment. We have a very good team here that plays well together.

Unfortunately we need to do something major. This team as constructed cannot last another year. Herro is looking at getting 25+ mil a year, thats not even counting our other players whose deal ends. Diopo if he has a good year will cost us double his current salary. Remember we are not know for paying the tax so something has to give. Thats not even talking about Butler and Lowry being a year older. Something has to give. Say Bam is out for the season, with the way we play defense its not going to go well for us. Something drastic has to happen. So we are on the desperate side unless you think Mickey will pay the tax for this team

The team can definitely last another year, but it will be last affordable year for this roster.

Herro, Dipo, Strus, Vincent, Yurt are going to get paid AFTER this upcoming season.

So we can still make a move at trade deadline, some of these guys might actually up their value for contenders.

The question is can we repeat last's season with the same roster? I say probably not, because Celtics, Bucks and Sixers got better.

If we get rid of Lowey and Duncan after this year (48Mil Combined!), we might be able to keep all these guys (they should cost around that number, probably even 60+ Mil combined)...but we'll still be missing that star piece (unless Herro takes another big leap).

BTW looking at the numbers, it's almost inevitable we do make some moves after this year if we don't want to lose the young guys for nothing :

Move Lowry for cap space, need to find a desperate team that absorb him or add a sweetener for some to take him.
Dump Duncan's salary and attach one the young guys (because we won't be able to pay all 5 of them).

Basically this roster, on every level, is desperate for a big consolidation trade that sends out a few guys that are about to get paid and brings in 1 high caliber high salary star.

[RexBoyWonder]

Unfortunately we need to do something major. This team as constructed cannot last another year. Herro is looking at getting 25+ mil a year, thats not even counting our other players whose deal ends. Diopo if he has a good year will cost us double his current salary. Remember we are not know for paying the tax so something has to give. Thats not even talking about Butler and Lowry being a year older. Something has to give. Say Bam is out for the season, with the way we play defense its not going to go well for us. Something drastic has to happen. So we are on the desperate side unless you think Mickey will pay the tax for this team

The team can definitely last another year, but it will be last affordable year for this roster.

Herro, Dipo, Strus, Vincent, Yurt are going to get paid AFTER this upcoming season.

So we can still make a move at trade deadline, some of these guys might actually up their value for contenders.

The question is can we repeat last's season with the same roster? I say probably not, because Celtics, Bucks and Sixers got better.

If we get rid of Lowey and Duncan after this year (48Mil Combined!), we might be able to keep all these guys (they should cost around that number, probably even 60+ Mil combined)...but we'll still be missing that star piece (unless Herro takes another big leap).

BTW looking at the numbers, it's almost inevitable we do make some moves after this year if we don't want to lose the young guys for nothing :

Move Lowry for cap space, need to find a desperate team that absorb him or add a sweetener for some to take him.
Dump Duncan's salary and attach one the young guys (because we won't be able to pay all 5 of them).

Basically this roster, on every level, is desperate for a big consolidation trade that sends out a few guys that are about to get paid and brings in 1 high caliber high salary star.

If I'm the front office, looking at the ages, numbers and the projected salaries of Dipo, Herro, Strus, Yurt, Vincent -


You've got to go all in on a star now. Give up all of them expect the 1 you like most or find most hard to replace (probably Dipo) - because we won't be able to afford paying all of them anyway.

[AirP.]

The team can definitely last another year, but it will be last affordable year for this roster.

Herro, Dipo, Strus, Vincent, Yurt are going to get paid AFTER this upcoming season.

So we can still make a move at trade deadline, some of these guys might actually up their value for contenders.

The question is can we repeat last's season with the same roster? I say probably not, because Celtics, Bucks and Sixers got better.

If we get rid of Lowey and Duncan after this year (48Mil Combined!), we might be able to keep all these guys (they should cost around that number, probably even 60+ Mil combined)...but we'll still be missing that star piece (unless Herro takes another big leap).

Miami keeps all these guys and then what? As of now there is nobody that will have a bigger impact on this franchise then Butler currently does so staying the same, getting some more development will leave Miami in a lesser place then it was this next season. Even though I expect some really good play from Oladipo, he's 30 and not all that big so unlike Butler, probably won't be very good in his mid 30s although he'll probably be rotation quality. Bam? I don't think he has the mentality; can he push himself and others help him push him to being an offensive threat for a short amount of time, sure but that pressure will wear off. Sure keep working on him but at this point just move forward that it's not going to happen and if it does happen... great but don't wait around for it and have the roster suffer because of it.

Miami needs to consolidate, upgrade the top half of the roster and then start developing new roleplayers and possibly take another shot at developing a high potential player.

Even running it back, it's possible even without PJ that this team will be better because of the young guys developing more, Strus and Vincent finally really experiencing the playoffs and of course Oladipo finally being back to at least working out during the summers like he once did to get ready for the next season.

Also, let's all hope Butler continues to work on that 3pt shot, it will help open up things for his teammates and allow him to not have to attack the basket as much reducing the wear and tear on his body.

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[wade44]

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Great news. Was worried we’d be stuck with Smart and Mold through preseason at least. These guys are trash

[AirP.]

If I'm the front office, looking at the ages, numbers and the projected salaries of Dipo, Herro, Strus, Yurt, Vincent -

You've got to go all in on a star now. Give up all of them expect the 1 you like most or find most hard to replace (probably Dipo) - because we won't be able to afford paying all of them anyway.

Oladipo can't be traded for a while anyways.

If Miami can go all in without giving up Butler or Bam and they currently can't move Oladipo, Martin and Dedmon, you currently have a playoff team with that group. Add someone like Mitchell who's only 26 and you have a long time to even rebuild this roster in 3-4 years around Bam and Mitchell. Good lord Micthell won't even ben 30 for 4 more years and at that point... you have 2 more 1st round picks you can move.

[contract]

Current values:

Herro: 2 FRP, top-3 protected
Strus: 1 FRP, top-20 protected
Vincent: 1 FRP, top-20 protected
Lowry: -1 FRP, lotto protected
Robinson: -1 FRP, unprotected

IMO ...

Herro: 2 FRP, top-10 protected

Vincent: I don't think we could get a 1st for him. There's no shortage of 26 year olds that are interchangeable with him.

Robinson: -1 FRP, at least lotto protected. He's a very limited player who is overpaid on a long term deal, but he isn't a complete waste of a life. I wouldn't even be surprised if some team accept top 20 protection on the pick.

[BenoUdrihFTL]

Keldon Johnson just got $80/4 from the tanking Spurs

Herro gonna be expensive lol

[wade44]

Anyone know anything about this Darius Days kid? I read he was on the Spurs summer league roster. 6’7 power forward?

[AirP.]

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Great news. Was worried we’d be stuck with Smart and Mold through preseason at least. These guys are trash

Garrett could end up being a long-term, possibly cheap role-player for Miami.

[AirP.]

Anyone know anything about this Darius Days kid? I read he was on the Spurs summer league roster. 6’7 power forward?

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[IceColdCubano]

Saucee Nuggets very Sweet Habanero - Updates!!!

1. The meeting went very well, he does not know what was said in the meeting between all parties, however did hear that the Agent did most of the talking but Durant was there and did say somethings, there was a rep from the Brooklyn side present who did not talk. The meeting was held via conference call and very little has been said about any of the conversations from our executives.
2. Miami is moving forward with the plan to get Durant at all cost so don't expect any ancillary trades happening for medial upgrades unless they are meant to get assets/picks.
3. The problem now is that most Front offices are going on leave/PTO. It makes things drag a bit for the next 2-3 weeks.
4. Miami expects that with the information passed down to NY they should hold steadfast and call Ainge's bluff. We need to snag Durant before Ainge offloads Mitchell the repercussions of them getting a large haul for Mitchell could potentially cause a giant rift between all parties in Brooklyn with the expectations continued to be set over there at Utah basically raising the market value, meaning they could decide to play the season out even if Durant wants nothing to do with them.