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Re: Questions about former Nuggets 

Post#21 » by skywalker33 » Tue Jul 19, 2022 10:32 pm

Sounds like Connelly is sleeping on the job, just working off his laurels from his previous team. That Gobert trade must've taxed him A TON !! :lol: :lol:
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Re: Questions about former Nuggets 

Post#22 » by winforlose » Tue Jul 19, 2022 10:45 pm

skywalker33 wrote:Sounds like Connelly is sleeping on the job, just working off his laurels from his previous team. That Gobert trade must've taxed him A TON !! :lol: :lol:


That is one way to look at it. Another is our third string is by and large the 2nd string of a playoff team from last year. You can slight your former players all you like, but as veteran bench depth, it is hard to complain. Though personally I did not want Rivers because we are already quite deep at SG and need more PGs, but that is nothing to do with his quality, just his fit.
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Re: Questions about former Nuggets 

Post#23 » by skywalker33 » Tue Jul 19, 2022 11:52 pm

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skywalker33 wrote:Sounds like Connelly is sleeping on the job, just working off his laurels from his previous team. That Gobert trade must've taxed him A TON !! :lol: :lol:


That is one way to look at it. Another is our third string is by and large the 2nd string of a playoff team from last year. You can slight your former players all you like, but as veteran bench depth, it is hard to complain. Though personally I did not want Rivers because we are already quite deep at SG and need more PGs, but that is nothing to do with his quality, just his fit.



Can't take a joke...oh wait, you ARE a t-pup fan, I get it now !
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Re: Questions about former Nuggets 

Post#24 » by winforlose » Tue Jul 19, 2022 11:56 pm

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skywalker33 wrote:Sounds like Connelly is sleeping on the job, just working off his laurels from his previous team. That Gobert trade must've taxed him A TON !! :lol: :lol:


That is one way to look at it. Another is our third string is by and large the 2nd string of a playoff team from last year. You can slight your former players all you like, but as veteran bench depth, it is hard to complain. Though personally I did not want Rivers because we are already quite deep at SG and need more PGs, but that is nothing to do with his quality, just his fit.



Can't take a joke...oh wait, you ARE a t-pup fan, I get it now !


If it was a joke it would not have been proceeded by calling Forbes and Rivers scrubs. There is a level of hostility I don’t feel is warranted. Either way, I look forward to matchups between a healthy Nuggets and new Wolves teams. If you guys acquire former wolves you are of course always welcome to ask our community about them. One of the perks of having a 30 board community (one for every team,) is that option being available. I would just request in the future you try and be a little nicer in your approach, but that is just me and my opinion.
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Re: Questions about former Nuggets 

Post#25 » by skywalker33 » Wed Jul 20, 2022 1:49 am

winforlose wrote:
skywalker33 wrote:
winforlose wrote:
That is one way to look at it. Another is our third string is by and large the 2nd string of a playoff team from last year. You can slight your former players all you like, but as veteran bench depth, it is hard to complain. Though personally I did not want Rivers because we are already quite deep at SG and need more PGs, but that is nothing to do with his quality, just his fit.



Can't take a joke...oh wait, you ARE a t-pup fan, I get it now !


If it was a joke it would not have been proceeded by calling Forbes and Rivers scrubs. There is a level of hostility I don’t feel is warranted. Either way, I look forward to matchups between a healthy Nuggets and new Wolves teams. If you guys acquire former wolves you are of course always welcome to ask our community about them. One of the perks of having a 30 board community (one for every team,) is that option being available. I would just request in the future you try and be a little nicer in your approach, but that is just me and my opinion.


First, this is a NUGGETS forum, not a T-pups forum. Second, the joke was about TC, had NOTHING to do with my opinion about Forbes or Rivers, who, having watched both (which you obviously haven't since you came over here clamoring about rather than just doing the research yourself) stands. Your questions were answered respectfully, yet you seem to want to continue to talk T-pups here which is disrespectful being it is a Nuggets forum as stated IMO. Take that as MY opinion.
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Re: Questions about former Nuggets 

Post#26 » by winforlose » Wed Jul 20, 2022 2:03 am

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Can't take a joke...oh wait, you ARE a t-pup fan, I get it now !


If it was a joke it would not have been proceeded by calling Forbes and Rivers scrubs. There is a level of hostility I don’t feel is warranted. Either way, I look forward to matchups between a healthy Nuggets and new Wolves teams. If you guys acquire former wolves you are of course always welcome to ask our community about them. One of the perks of having a 30 board community (one for every team,) is that option being available. I would just request in the future you try and be a little nicer in your approach, but that is just me and my opinion.


First, this is a NUGGETS forum, not a T-pups forum. Second, the joke was about TC, had NOTHING to do with my opinion about Forbes or Rivers, who, having watched both (which you obviously haven't since you came over here clamoring about rather than just doing the research yourself) stands. Your questions were answered respectfully, yet you seem to want to continue to talk T-pups here which is disrespectful being it is a Nuggets forum as stated IMO. Take that as MY opinion.


Fair. I apologize for any offense caused by my discussion of the Wolves. I came here for perspective beyond the stats that usually comes from people watching the games. I don’t have league pass and have not seen many recent Nuggets games. I do appreciate the amount of useful information you guys provided, and I again invite you guys to seek out our board should the shoe be on the other foot.
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Re: Questions about former Nuggets 

Post#27 » by The Rebel » Wed Jul 20, 2022 3:18 am

winforlose wrote:
skywalker33 wrote:
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If it was a joke it would not have been proceeded by calling Forbes and Rivers scrubs. There is a level of hostility I don’t feel is warranted. Either way, I look forward to matchups between a healthy Nuggets and new Wolves teams. If you guys acquire former wolves you are of course always welcome to ask our community about them. One of the perks of having a 30 board community (one for every team,) is that option being available. I would just request in the future you try and be a little nicer in your approach, but that is just me and my opinion.


First, this is a NUGGETS forum, not a T-pups forum. Second, the joke was about TC, had NOTHING to do with my opinion about Forbes or Rivers, who, having watched both (which you obviously haven't since you came over here clamoring about rather than just doing the research yourself) stands. Your questions were answered respectfully, yet you seem to want to continue to talk T-pups here which is disrespectful being it is a Nuggets forum as stated IMO. Take that as MY opinion.


Fair. I apologize for any offense caused by my discussion of the Wolves. I came here for perspective beyond the stats that usually comes from people watching the games. I don’t have league pass and have not seen many recent Nuggets games. I do appreciate the amount of useful information you guys provided, and I again invite you guys to seek out our board should the shoe be on the other foot.



The issue isn't that it is the Twolves, it is that you are wanting detailed scouting reports to guys that none of us were all that sad to see replaced. Despite shooting 41% on 3s, Forbes was way to streaky to count on as a spot shooter and his all around game is terrible. Rivers may work as hard as anybody on the court, but he is not particularly good at any of it. Cousins was a solid backup Center that reportedly wanted a pay raise and guaranteed minutes, while being totally ineffective in some matchups not to mention the foul/technical foul calls that seemed like it put us into foul trouble early in the 2nd and 4th in every damn game. As I said if you are depending on Nuggets castaways to do more in Minny than we asked of them last year than you are in trouble. They are all limited players at this point that can play a role, but are not good enough to be guaranteed minute rotation players anymore. To us it is like going to the Twolves board and asking 100 questions about Josh Okogie, Jake Layman, and Greg Monroe, no Twolves fan is going to care enough to bother with every **** detail about their game.
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Re: Questions about former Nuggets 

Post#28 » by winforlose » Wed Jul 20, 2022 3:40 am

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winforlose wrote:
skywalker33 wrote:
First, this is a NUGGETS forum, not a T-pups forum. Second, the joke was about TC, had NOTHING to do with my opinion about Forbes or Rivers, who, having watched both (which you obviously haven't since you came over here clamoring about rather than just doing the research yourself) stands. Your questions were answered respectfully, yet you seem to want to continue to talk T-pups here which is disrespectful being it is a Nuggets forum as stated IMO. Take that as MY opinion.


Fair. I apologize for any offense caused by my discussion of the Wolves. I came here for perspective beyond the stats that usually comes from people watching the games. I don’t have league pass and have not seen many recent Nuggets games. I do appreciate the amount of useful information you guys provided, and I again invite you guys to seek out our board should the shoe be on the other foot.



The issue isn't that it is the Twolves, it is that you are wanting detailed scouting reports to guys that none of us were all that sad to see replaced. Despite shooting 41% on 3s, Forbes was way to streaky to count on as a spot shooter and his all around game is terrible. Rivers may work as hard as anybody on the court, but he is not particularly good at any of it. Cousins was a solid backup Center that reportedly wanted a pay raise and guaranteed minutes, while being totally ineffective in some matchups not to mention the foul/technical foul calls that seemed like it put us into foul trouble early in the 2nd and 4th in every damn game. As I said if you are depending on Nuggets castaways to do more in Minny than we asked of them last year than you are in trouble. They are all limited players at this point that can play a role, but are not good enough to be guaranteed minute rotation players anymore. To us it is like going to the Twolves board and asking 100 questions about Josh Okogie, Jake Layman, and Greg Monroe, no Twolves fan is going to care enough to bother with every **** detail about their game.


The point is fair, but the players did get actual time with you guys. Plus I am more asking for a couple sentence summary rather than a detailed scouting report. That said, I respect your position and apologize if the questions come off as annoying. This is a very exciting year for both our teams and I just really want to learn as much as I can about the new faces being brought in.
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Re: Questions about former Nuggets 

Post#29 » by The Rebel » Wed Jul 20, 2022 3:45 am

winforlose wrote:
The Rebel wrote:
winforlose wrote:
Fair. I apologize for any offense caused by my discussion of the Wolves. I came here for perspective beyond the stats that usually comes from people watching the games. I don’t have league pass and have not seen many recent Nuggets games. I do appreciate the amount of useful information you guys provided, and I again invite you guys to seek out our board should the shoe be on the other foot.



The issue isn't that it is the Twolves, it is that you are wanting detailed scouting reports to guys that none of us were all that sad to see replaced. Despite shooting 41% on 3s, Forbes was way to streaky to count on as a spot shooter and his all around game is terrible. Rivers may work as hard as anybody on the court, but he is not particularly good at any of it. Cousins was a solid backup Center that reportedly wanted a pay raise and guaranteed minutes, while being totally ineffective in some matchups not to mention the foul/technical foul calls that seemed like it put us into foul trouble early in the 2nd and 4th in every damn game. As I said if you are depending on Nuggets castaways to do more in Minny than we asked of them last year than you are in trouble. They are all limited players at this point that can play a role, but are not good enough to be guaranteed minute rotation players anymore. To us it is like going to the Twolves board and asking 100 questions about Josh Okogie, Jake Layman, and Greg Monroe, no Twolves fan is going to care enough to bother with every **** detail about their game.


The point is fair, but the players did get actual time with you guys. Plus I am more asking for a couple sentence summary rather than a detailed scouting report. That said, I respect your position and apologize if the questions come off as annoying. This is a very exciting year for both our teams and I just really want to learn as much as I can about the new faces being brought in.


We had 360 games missed due to injury, and that was with trading 2 guys who were out for the season at the trade deadline. Everybody got minutes, half of them shouldn't of, and if you think they are getting minutes for the Twolves than you better hope your stars all take big steps because otherwise it will be a long season. We were a playoff team because Jokic carried us, he was the top 10 reasons we got there. Forbes, Cousins, and Rivers were all negative players.
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Re: Questions about former Nuggets 

Post#30 » by skywalker33 » Wed Jul 20, 2022 3:51 am

winforlose wrote:
The Rebel wrote:
winforlose wrote:
Fair. I apologize for any offense caused by my discussion of the Wolves. I came here for perspective beyond the stats that usually comes from people watching the games. I don’t have league pass and have not seen many recent Nuggets games. I do appreciate the amount of useful information you guys provided, and I again invite you guys to seek out our board should the shoe be on the other foot.



The issue isn't that it is the Twolves, it is that you are wanting detailed scouting reports to guys that none of us were all that sad to see replaced. Despite shooting 41% on 3s, Forbes was way to streaky to count on as a spot shooter and his all around game is terrible. Rivers may work as hard as anybody on the court, but he is not particularly good at any of it. Cousins was a solid backup Center that reportedly wanted a pay raise and guaranteed minutes, while being totally ineffective in some matchups not to mention the foul/technical foul calls that seemed like it put us into foul trouble early in the 2nd and 4th in every damn game. As I said if you are depending on Nuggets castaways to do more in Minny than we asked of them last year than you are in trouble. They are all limited players at this point that can play a role, but are not good enough to be guaranteed minute rotation players anymore. To us it is like going to the Twolves board and asking 100 questions about Josh Okogie, Jake Layman, and Greg Monroe, no Twolves fan is going to care enough to bother with every **** detail about their game.


The point is fair, but the players did get actual time with you guys. Plus I am more asking for a couple sentence summary rather than a detailed scouting report. That said, I respect your position and apologize if the questions come off as annoying. This is a very exciting year for both our teams and I just really want to learn as much as I can about the new faces being brought in.


Isn't that what Training Camp is for ??? And either/both may not even make your squad, TC could easily make the same mistake(s) twice. Neither player really played intensively here, perhaps SAS forum might give you more detailed info on Forber, same with LAC and River....perhaps you can just call Doc Rivers, I'm sure he can fill in more than DENVER fans have already provided you with. Some people just can't take a hint
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Re: Questions about former Nuggets 

Post#31 » by Maf » Thu Jul 21, 2022 4:40 pm

winforlose wrote:
skywalker33 wrote:Sounds like Connelly is sleeping on the job, just working off his laurels from his previous team. That Gobert trade must've taxed him A TON !! :lol: :lol:


That is one way to look at it. Another is our third string is by and large the 2nd string of a playoff team from last year. You can slight your former players all you like, but as veteran bench depth, it is hard to complain. Though personally I did not want Rivers because we are already quite deep at SG and need more PGs, but that is nothing to do with his quality, just his fit.



It´s positive way to look about it but don´t get fooled. They weren´t a reason we were playoff team. :wink: Ok, I give you my two cents about those three guys. ¨

Austin- expect a lot of him getting blown by his guy on defense, then immediately waive and yell on his teammates who´s fault it is he cannot guard his guy. On offense, getting ball wide open, hesitate to shoot, wait for his defender to close out on him, then shooting contested step back, most often bricking it two feet wide. And as cherry on cake, fouling on half court heaves. I am pretty sure he did it at least three times just this pass season. I call it The Great Austin Rivers Experience. But, gotta admit, I absolutely LOVED his cross over. Pure beauty.

Forbes- When we got him I was excited. We lacked shooters and he is great shooter. And I didn´t get why Spurs fans were like "yeah wait till you see him on defense." They were right. Bryn is one of the guys you feel you could probably score on him, too. And if his shot is not falling he is useless on court. That´s reason his minutes were down more and more.

Cousins- Out of those three the only guy I will miss on our team. And that´s something to say because he was starter on my "can´t stand them" team. As others wrote, he can foul out of the game in five minutes. Gets a TON of techs. Seems like refs are enjoying he is not viewed as star anymore and now get their pay back, cause a lot of calls on him were bogus. Defense is his worst weakness. He knows where he should be but after his injuries he is too slow. He looks like he runs up to his knees in mud. What you have to love about him is those brick wall screens. Damn so many guards got smashed by him. And of course he still can score, pass and rebound. I would rather have him than DJ.
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