Where Does Gobert Rank as Most Talented Wolves of All Time?

shrink · Post #1 » by **shrink** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 6:23 pm

Where does Gobert rank in the most talented Wolves of all time?

Looking mostly at All Stars, here’s some players to consider:

Garnett, Marbury, Gugliotta, Sczerbiak, Cassell, Love, Towns, Butler, Edwards

KGdaBom · Post #2 » by **KGdaBom** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 6:37 pm

How does one define talent? I made my choice based on how much I think he will impact wins and losses. How good he is.

Post #3 » by **Klomp** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 6:53 pm

I think in 5 years from now, we'll be talking about how three players from the current squad are on the Timberwolves Mt. Rushmore.

Neeva · Post #4 » by **Neeva** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:50 pm

Klomp wrote:I think in 5 years from now, we'll be talking about how three players from the current squad are on the Timberwolves Mt. Rushmore.

Four.

Biff Cooper · Post #5 » by **Biff Cooper** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:55 pm

A lot of variation depending on how you define "talented". Some of these guys have obvious physical talent that doesn't or didn't necessarily translate to good basketball. Others have figured out how to maximize the talent that they already had. I gave credit to both and tried to group into tiers.

Tier 1 - KG
Tier 2 : KAT, Love, Butler, Gobert, Billups, Rose
Tier 3 : Ant, Jefferson, Roy
Tier 4 : Wiggins, Lavine, Laettner
Tier 5 : Marbury, Gugliatta, Cassell, DLo, AK47, Spreewell, Porter, Rider, Terrell Brandon, Antoine Walker, Pek, Rubio, KMart

Post #6 » by **Klomp** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:12 pm

Neeva wrote:
Klomp wrote:I think in 5 years from now, we'll be talking about how three players from the current squad are on the Timberwolves Mt. Rushmore.

Four.

You think Garnett will be bumped down to 5th best all-time?!

KGdaBom · Post #7 » by **KGdaBom** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:23 pm

Klomp wrote:
Neeva wrote:
Klomp wrote:I think in 5 years from now, we'll be talking about how three players from the current squad are on the Timberwolves Mt. Rushmore.

Four.

You think Garnett will be bumped down to 5th best all-time?!

Right I don't see how that's possible.

BlacJacMac · Post #8 » by **BlacJacMac** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:29 pm

Biff Cooper wrote:A lot of variation depending on how you define "talented". Some of these guys have obvious physical talent that doesn't or didn't necessarily translate to good basketball. Others have figured out how to maximize the talent that they already had. I gave credit to both and tried to group into tiers.

Tier 1 - KG
Tier 2 : KAT, Love, Butler, Gobert, Billups, Rose
Tier 3 : Ant, Jefferson, Roy
Tier 4 : Wiggins, Lavine, Laettner
Tier 5 : Marbury, Gugliatta, Cassell, DLo, AK47, Spreewell, Porter, Rider, Terrell Brandon, Antoine Walker, Pek, Rubio, KMart

Rose?

And is Roy getting a "lifetime achievement award"? Because he played 5 games for us.

BlacJacMac · Post #9 » by **BlacJacMac** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:30 pm

Klomp wrote:
Neeva wrote:
Klomp wrote:I think in 5 years from now, we'll be talking about how three players from the current squad are on the Timberwolves Mt. Rushmore.

Four.

You think Garnett will be bumped down to 5th best all-time?!

Maybe he's never seen Mt. Rushmore?

KGdaBom · Post #10 » by **KGdaBom** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:32 pm

BlacJacMac wrote:
Klomp wrote:
Neeva wrote:
Four.

You think Garnett will be bumped down to 5th best all-time?!

Maybe he's never seen Mt. Rushmore?

I think Neeva sees KG as getting so excited over this team that he comes out of retirement and rejoins the Wolves.

Rookie-Mistake · Post #11 » by **Rookie-Mistake** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:47 pm

Hasn't played a game yet.

shrink wrote:Where does Gobert rank in the most talented Wolves of all time?

Looking mostly at All Stars, here’s some players to consider:

Garnett, Marbury, Gugliotta, Sczerbiak, Cassell, Love, Towns, Butler, Edwards

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jscott · Post #12 » by **jscott** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:48 pm

KG, KAT and Ant are the only Wolves on his level. I said 3rd right because Ant is only in his 2nd year and still developing.

KGdaBom · Post #13 » by **KGdaBom** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:59 pm

Rookie-Mistake wrote:Hasn't played a game yet.
shrink wrote:Where does Gobert rank in the most talented Wolves of all time?

Looking mostly at All Stars, here’s some players to consider:

Garnett, Marbury, Gugliotta, Sczerbiak, Cassell, Love, Towns, Butler, Edwards

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Does his not playing a game for us yet diminish his talent? I don't think so.

Note30 · Post #14 » by **Note30** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:10 pm

Can't believe the number of people thinking Gobert > Towns.

shrink · Post #15 » by **shrink** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:15 pm

KGdaBom wrote:How does one define talent? I made my choice based on how much I think he will impact wins and losses. How good he is.

Klomp wrote:I think in 5 years from now, we'll be talking about how three players from the current squad are on the Timberwolves Mt. Rushmore.

Yeah, I really struggled putting the idea behind the question into words. You guys both did it better.

KGdaBom · Post #16 » by **KGdaBom** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:20 pm

shrink wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:How does one define talent? I made my choice based on how much I think he will impact wins and losses. How good he is.

Klomp wrote:I think in 5 years from now, we'll be talking about how three players from the current squad are on the Timberwolves Mt. Rushmore.

Yeah, I really struggled putting the idea behind the question into words. You guys both did it better.

I appreciate the struggle, but talent was a poor choice of words. JR Rider could easily be the most talented Wolves player ever. :lol:

KGdaBom · Post #17 » by **KGdaBom** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:30 pm

Note30 wrote:Can't believe the number of people thinking Gobert > Towns.

Rudy has much greater impact on wins and losses and check Basketball reference the stat Bible. Rudy buries KAT.

Note30 · Post #18 » by **Note30** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:43 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
Note30 wrote:Can't believe the number of people thinking Gobert > Towns.

Rudy has much greater impact on wins and losses and check Basketball reference the stat Bible. Rudy buries KAT.

Probably has to do something with the trash bags KAT played with since a Rookie vs Gobert.

Compare win shares last year. Pretty similar, the one year they had semi equal teams.

KGdaBom · Post #19 » by **KGdaBom** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:49 pm

Note30 wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
Note30 wrote:Can't believe the number of people thinking Gobert > Towns.

Rudy has much greater impact on wins and losses and check Basketball reference the stat Bible. Rudy buries KAT.

Probably has to do something with the trash bags KAT played with since a Rookie vs Gobert.

Compare win shares last year. Pretty similar, the one year they had semi equal teams.

Kat's a very good player. I like him, but when looking at the big picture KAT is a top 20 player. Rudy is a top 10 player. I'm thrilled they are both on OUR team.

Biff Cooper · Post #20 » by **Biff Cooper** » Sun Jul 24, 2022 5:24 pm

BlacJacMac wrote:
Biff Cooper wrote:A lot of variation depending on how you define "talented". Some of these guys have obvious physical talent that doesn't or didn't necessarily translate to good basketball. Others have figured out how to maximize the talent that they already had. I gave credit to both and tried to group into tiers.

Tier 1 - KG
Tier 2 : KAT, Love, Butler, Gobert, Billups, Rose
Tier 3 : Ant, Jefferson, Roy
Tier 4 : Wiggins, Lavine, Laettner
Tier 5 : Marbury, Gugliatta, Cassell, DLo, AK47, Spreewell, Porter, Rider, Terrell Brandon, Antoine Walker, Pek, Rubio, KMart

Rose?

And is Roy getting a "lifetime achievement award"? Because he played 5 games for us.

If Michael Jordan played one game for the Wolves, would he not be one of the most talented Wolves ever?